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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:44 AM
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DU drinkers: What's your poison for the debate tonight?
I'm going with Pilsner Urquell, because it's a special occasion.






...OK, I just like it. You? :D
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insanity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:45 AM
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1. Hmmm.
If I feel healthy enough to drink tonight then I'm going to rock some cuba libres made with fine Sailor Jerry's Rum.
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:57 AM
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2. Smithwicks
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cyberswede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:09 AM
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10. I knew I'd see you in this thread!
:hi:
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:26 AM
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12. You know it (nm)
x
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:58 AM
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3. Homebrew
An Oatmeal Stout: dark, smooth, and potent... Just like my candidate!
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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:49 PM
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28. What kind of a homebrew setup do you have?
I want to get one for my husband for when he comes back from Iraq. He's been wanting one for a long time, and I'd like to surprise him with it.

Thanks! :)

:hi:
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 05:01 PM
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36. I can point you in the right direction
But if you want to get totally series!!11 about brewing beer, most of your gear is going to be home made. I'll try to explain best I can. But realize there are whole volumes of books written on the in's and out's of brewing beer.

First, I'll describe my set up. I have:

* an outdoor propane chili cooker with two burners. I forget who makes them... Bayou something.

* 3 standard kegs (y'know, the big ones you use at college parties) with the tops carved out of them and fittings attached to the bottom of them. These serve as various cooking kettles. The fittings on each one serves a purpose. It's imperative to have at least one kettle of some sort that can hold 7 gallons or more of water. I'll explain more on this later.

* 5 or 6 carboys ranging from 5 gallons to 6.5 gallons in size.

* A siphon made out of standard tubing

* A wort chiller made out of simple copper tubing that can hook up to a garden hose

* A small dorm sized refrigerator converted into a kegerator.

* Two soda kegs.

* Various nickle and dime stuff like iodine sanitizer, airlocks and big wooden spoons.

All told, I've probably spent close to 700 dollars on everything but I'd say half of it, if you have the courage, can be made or manufactored DIY style.

Now obviously not everyone needs or wants to brew beer on such a large level but in order to acheive maximum efficiency on your money spent, my set up and ones that surpass mine (trust me, they can get elaborate) are the way to go.

So how do you brew beer, right? It's simple: malts are soaked in hotwater and the starches are broken down into sugar. The sugar water is boiled, hops are added, then the liquid is cooled. Yeast is introduced and then the beer is aged for a specified amount of time. That's the process. That's it.

Here's where you have to figure out what you want to do as a brewer. I'll break it down into three levels and go through to process and explain what equipment is needed.

The beginner:
The beginner does not perform the first step in the process of converting starch to sugar because he or she purchases either Dried Malt Extract (DME) or a liquid malt extract. All he or she needs is a kettle big enough to hold 6 or 7 gallons of water. The process is simple: add the malt extract and necessary water together, bring the water to a boil, and add the hops. The wort (as the liquid is now known) is chilled using a wort chiller or by letting it cool in a sink of cold water (go with the wort chiller) and then placed inside a carboy. Yeast is introduced and an airlock is placed on top of the carboy and the beer ferments for a specified amount of time. Some people, half way through the fermenting process, will transfer the beer to another carboy to help clear out the yeast sediment. People act like it's a crime if you don't do a transfer, but cloudy beer tastes the same as clear beer. It's just for show.

Once the beer has fully fermented, the beginner usually bottles their beer which means buying empty bottles, beer caps, and a cap press. If I remember correctly, the brewer will have to add a tiny bit of sugar to the beer during bottling. When the beer is bottled, the sugar will activate the yeast again and force the beer to carbonate over a week to ten days. The beginner also usually only has the capacity of making 5 gallons of beer at a time.

The nice thing about making beer from extract is it is completely fuck up free. As long as you sanitize everything your wort touches after it cools, you cannot screw this up. It really is as simple as following directions and boiling water. And it's quick. About 2.5 hours for the whole process. I know a ton of brewers who refuse to go 'all grain' (read: expert) simply because of this reason alone. You can usually buy a kit for about 125 dollars that will have everything but the kettle (a big stock kettle usually goes for about 50 bucks) which will include a nice glass carboy, a hydrometer, some cleaning supplies, usually malt for your first beer, dried yeast, a siphon, and a thermometer. Everything in the kit you will use again and again on all levels of brewing.

The downside is that you're spending about as much money on extract, hops, and yeast as you would if you bought a decent import or microbrew from the local store - About 6 dollars a six pack or so. And, it's harder to customize your beer (which can be a good thing, to some degree). But most people start here. The most important thing to remember is this again: nearly every item you use at the beginner level will be applicable at the expert level. Personally, I've only had to discard one item, a kettle, that was no longer valuable to me since I stepped up to the carved out kegs.

An intermediate brewer will do the same as the beginner, except some malt grains will be steeped in a sock in the hot water prior to adding the malt extract. Everything else is still the same.

I'll explain now how I do things. The following is a typical 10 gallon batch process for me.

As previously mentioned, I have three kegs carved out with various fittings attached to them. In one of the kegs, the fittings has a screen filter at the bottom of it attached to an external fitting (like a faucet). In that kettle I heat up 8 gallons of water or so to 160 ish over the chili cooker and drop in the grains. The chili cooker is turned off and the starch is converted to sugar over the next hour. While that is happening, in another kettle I heat up about the same amount of water to 170 degrees (obviously I have a thermometer :) ) over the second jet of the chili cooker. When the time is up, I slowly pour the 170 degree water into the kettle that has the grains in it and open the fitting (where the filter is) and drain the wort into the third kettle. This should yield about 12 gallons or of wort.

The third kettle is now placed on the chili cooker and boiled. The process at this point is virtually the same as a beginner would do just on a larger scale. Hops are added. The wort is chilled. I sterilize my carboys and then transfer the wort into the carboys. Yeast is added. The wort ferments into beer. Sometimes, I'll transfer it to a secondary carboy to clear. That just depends on the style. If its a stout, who cares if it's cloudy, right?

So what about bottling? Fuck that. Bottling is a major pain in the ass. This is where the soda kegs come in. I transfer the beer to soda kegs, pressurize them with CO2 which forces carbonation into the beer. The beer is ready to drink from the tap the next day.

There are major downsides to making beer this way. First and foremost is time. This process takes no less than six hours. And it wasn't cheap to acquire all the equipment. Like I said before, I've spent no less than 700 dollars on everything. I would also highly advise no to brew like this indoors.

The upside? Premium beer and bargain prices. A ten gallon batch like the one I mentioned above is a whopping 30 bucks in grains, hops, and yeast. Tell me where you can get two thirds of a Guinness keg for 30 bucks? That's right, you can't. :)

Wow. I typed alot. Anyhow, that's how you can make beer. As they say, there's more than one way to skin a cat. There are plenty of work arounds on the internet for nearly every step involved. But the process itself is painfully easy. And there are whole sites dedicated to beer recipes whether they be expert or beginner or inbetween. If you have any questions on anything, just pm me. You'll find homebrewers LOVE to give advice.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:00 AM
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4. I've saved one Mike's Hard Lime.
I am a cheap date.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:02 AM
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5. I have one Mike's Hard Lemonade
together we could be a hard sprite......



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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:04 AM
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6. undecided still, either patron marguaritas, Reisling or Hefeweizen.
i already have all of it i just need to pick one.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:05 AM
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7. TBD, but here arre the options
New Glarus Fat Squirrel
New Belgium Mothership Wit
Point Horizion Wheat
Sunrye Summer Ale
Schell's Zommerfest
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:26 PM
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19. go with the mothership
that is a damn fine beer :9
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:08 AM
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8. Boxed wine. I'm going to need a lot.
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cyberswede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:08 AM
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9. Gotta go with the Fat Tire
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:11 AM
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11. Harp's Beer. And if we're doing the "my friends", thing, I won't be too plastered.
Not if I'm drinking beer instead of vodka or bourbon.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:34 PM
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14. Ahhl hahv ah Haahp
:D Good stuff.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:35 AM
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13. I am going to pick up a smart bottle of bubbly on the way home.
:toast:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:36 PM
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15. I'm watching it sober.
Driving way out to BFE for a debate party.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:40 PM
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16. I drink Sam Adams during debates for its patriotic bent. But only after I run out of whiskey. n/t
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:42 PM
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17. I haven't decided
What do you recommend?

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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:42 PM
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18. Three 24oz cans of Olde English 800 should do the trick.
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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 03:17 PM
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29. OE's the name, eight-ball's the game! (nt)
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:27 PM
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20. i'm gonna be a work during the debate
x(
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:29 PM
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21. Jack's Pumpkin Spice Ale
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:44 PM
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22. Margheritas minus too much salt!
My blood pressure is going to be high enough every time McNuts opens his mouth!
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:03 PM
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23. Unsweetened tea - fire roasted triscuits and feta cheese
I'm ready!

Can't wait.

:hi:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:15 PM
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24. Sierra
:thumbsup:
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:38 PM
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25. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale.
I need something I really, really like to wash the stench of McCain's voice from my ears.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:42 PM
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26. None. I gotta work tonight. D'oh.
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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:48 PM
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27. My last pint of Mothership Wit. I'm too broke to go buy more. :( nt
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 03:22 PM
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30. Some wine
Probably a red. Not too much though, I have Pilates in the am. :D
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 03:53 PM
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31. If we win, a tall glass of moo.
If we lose, hemlock.

I don't think we'll lose.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 03:59 PM
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32. Its taco and beer night
I'm thinking maybe Corona... goes good with tacos.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 04:02 PM
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33. Dirty martini of course
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 04:02 PM
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34. I drank yesterday , so tonight I am having Yerbamate
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 04:27 PM
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35. I've got a half bottle of Cuervo.
I figured at one shot every time the word "experience" is mentioned, I should be passed out long enough for the election to actually happen. :toast:
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 05:03 PM
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37. MGD 64, that new light beer, nt
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 05:06 PM
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38. Oh, that's a lovely beer.
I love Pilsner Urquell. I've drunk it since it was a special order item. Just the best, I think. I commend you on your excellent taste.

Me, I'll just do my regular mind-altering substance and maybe McPOW won't make me want to shoot the TV.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 05:10 PM
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39. Woodford Reserve, because it's my birthday!
That's my new favorite Kentucky bourbon!!! Smooth as silk.

And one of my friends at the firm gave me a bottle for my birthday!!

:woohoo:

bake
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 05:13 PM
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40. double caffeinated coffee
cause I'm working 12 hours tonight :( I'm going to miss McCain getting his ass handed to him on a plate
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 05:20 PM
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41. Beer or tequila
I can't decide
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 05:37 PM
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42. I haven't decided yet
I was going to go with wine, but a margarita sounds damn good right now.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 05:43 PM
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43. Sobieski Vodka
Because I'll be drinking a lot, and don't want a horrendous hangover.
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ThePowerofWill Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 05:47 PM
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44. Bowman's Vodka.
It' just like me, cheap and hard hitting. I don't drink for taste i drink for effect.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 05:49 PM
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45. Dingbat shots.
Every time Obama says "hope" or McCain flashes that rictis smile, I ding myself in the head with a bat.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 05:56 PM
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46. Rolling Rock
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:06 PM
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47. Cheerwine
Straight

:9
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bac511 Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:22 PM
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48. tall vodka tonics w/ lime!!!
and lots of em!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:22 PM
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49. I haven't decided yet.
I might go with wine. Mr. LIW will probably have one martini and then switch to beer.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:46 PM
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50. Sweetwater IPA


Seriously tasty stuff
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:46 PM
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51. got some Beck's here
so it'll have to be that.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:52 PM
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52. In about an hour, The Duck Rabbit Milk Stout



Gonna finish off this first

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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 07:34 PM
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53. Considering that I can't score any weed any more, I'm going with Darvocets
and Vodka and, of course, my Zoloft. This should be fun. :evilgrin:
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