lol @ USC.

[Drunken Irishman]

Pete Carroll may be a great coach, but damn, this guy really does not know how to get him teams up for games they shouldn't lose.

Stanford @ Oregon last year.
Oregon State @ UCLA the year before that.

Sad.

[jobycom]

1. The bottom line is that they are a very good, but very overrated, team.

They are the best of the west, and always amongst the top ten or twelve teams nationally, and sometimes at the top, but they play a weak schedule with overrated teams who only play each other, and are no measure for how USC ranks against the rest of the nation. Put them in the SEC, and they blend into the woodwork with two or three losses a year. Even in the Big 12 they'd lose one a year.

Not their fault that people create such high expectations for them. Carrol is a great coach, and they always have strong recruits. But they are just one of the best, not the best, and so they suffer when the media pumps them up and then rips them apart for losing.

[Twillig]

3. What a bunch of shit.

A fucking SEC honk saying the Pac 10 'only plays each other.'

Pot fucking kettle. Not even that. The SEC is the poster child conference for
porking up on cupcake directional schools at home while the Trojans have been a wrecking ball
for the Big Ten and SEC teams in out of conference games.

Please.

[jobycom]

10. I'm a Big 12 alum, Homer.

Any objective observer can see that USC does not play the strength of schedule that the SEC teams play. Any argument claiming otherwise is parochial in the extreme. LSU this season plays four teams currently ranked in the top 10--Auburn (ranked 10 when they played them), Alabama, Florida, and Georgia.

USC currently has no top ten teams scheduled, nor any ranked teams. They beat an overrated Ohio State (who even at their best was obliterated by the top SEC team, who was ranked 5 at the time, and has now fallen to 14. Otherwise, there are high schools in Texas who could beat most of the teams USC plays.

You give USC LSU's schedule, and they might lose only two, in a good year. Maybe. Sure, they can beat any one team out of the USC, but if they played that schedule week in and week out, they'd lose two to four each season.

As for the Trojans being a "wrecking ball" for SEC teams, they've played them twice in the last six years. They beat a bad Auburn and an even worse Arkansas. That's what I'm talking about--they don't play anyone, but they have this delusion that they do.

[Twillig]

18. I didn't know the Big 12 was a school.

The SEC's strength of schedule is down to intra-conference incest. Play cupcakes, get fat and have the built in excuse parroted far and wide by the rubes that playing your sisters and brothers is tough.

Speaking of ratings and expectations--the much higher rated U of Florida, with their Heisman Trophy quarterback, did exactly what last year in their bowl game?

Oh, yeah. They lost to Michigan. So don't sling that LSU v. Ohio State shit.


Ask USC to schedule a home and home with an SEC School and they'd do it. They beat Auburn twice. I remember that. 24-0 once. Auburn was supposed to be hot shit that year. After that game the whole
SEC dumped on them calling them shit for getting crushed by Carson Palmer's team.

[jobycom]

24. So you didn't major in English, math, or critical thinking, I see.

Bottom line is simple. USC plays patsie schools that get ground into mincemeat when they wander into the SEC. Check out Arizona State this year. That's why they only play each other. USC is a very good team. But they are overrated every year. They'd suck in the SEC. They'd have trouble in the Big 12, for that matter. The PAC 10 is the lightest major conference in college football.

USC beat Auburn twice since 02. Once Auburn was unranked, the other time they were 22, based solely on past history. They lost four games one of those years, and five the next, so they were never "hot shit." They were the bottom of the SEC back then. That's how USC builds its delusion--they play weak teams from the SEC and say "Hey, we beat the SEC!"

USC is a good team. But way over-rated. They'd be about Florida level in the SEC.

[Twillig]

22. "there are high schools in Texas who could beat most of the teams USC plays."

That's the funniest thing I've ever seen. Good one. :rofl:

Unless you were serious. Then it's the stupidest thing. EVER!

[jobycom]

23. I am serious.

[SteppingRazor]

11. I call bullshit on your calling of bullshit.

You've gotta give credit where credit's due. Of the Top 10 right now, four are SEC teams, four are Big 12 teams. They're the best conferences in the NCAA, period.

[Bake]

14. The SEC's got five of the top ten teams in the nation

And you're calling them CUPCAKES? Really? Come on down anytime. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Bake

[Twillig]

17. Can you read?

I said that the SEC builds itself up on cupcakes. (Georgia excluded)

So now you have five in the top ten.

BFD.

[jobycom]

25. USC builds itself up on cupcakes. The SEC built itself, literally, by inviting

the top teams in the region to join.

USC plays the PAC 10 and a few cherry-picked over-puffed teams from other conferences--they take teams like Notre Dame and Michigan who have big money drawing power but bad teams. When USC plays a good team--LSU, Texas--they lose. Who was the last really good team USC beat? Oklahoma in 04? Auburn, Georgia, and Texas were better that year than Oklahoma. USC gets rich playing over-rated number 3 and 4 teams in bowl games.

USC doesn't play anyone tough, and when they do, they lose.

[Bake]

27. Why don't you lighten the fuck UP. This is TEH LOUNGE.

Assholes need not apply. There's nothing worse than overzealous fans who lose it when their teams lose, as if it's life and death.

Yes, I can read.

Bake

[taterguy]

2. What's so funny about the University of South Carolina?

I hate it when I'm out of the loop

[SteppingRazor]

9. Although asked in jest, I'll answer your question anyway:

South Carolina is funny because they're the Gamecocks. Nuff said.

[mitchum]

15. No, what is funny is that the USC women's teams are known as...

"The Lady Gamecocks"
That's just fucking stupid.
Even I know that...and I have a degree from there.

[mitchum]

16. self delete: crazy double post

[Left Brain]

4. ...for games they SHOULDN'T lose??

never underestimate the power of the Beaver.



:hi:

[insanity]

5. All I know/care about

Is that the Beavers got it done.

I'm still wearing my orange Beaver Believer shirt from last night (hell, I live in Corvallis and just got home).

[Drunken Irishman]

6. I have tickets to next Thursday's Utah-Oregon State game.

It just got a lot more interesting!

[insanity]

7. Enjoy it!

I'll be watching on TV here in Corvallis with my fellow Beavers.

[Twillig]

19. The Beavs have a good chance!

If the game was East of the Mississippi, then I'd have no hope.

[SteppingRazor]

8. Now if Mizzou can just beat Oklahoma in the Big 12 Championship...

and Florida can beat Georgia in the World's Largest Cocktail Party, it could set up a Missouri-Florida national championship. ... My Gator wife and my own Mizzou self will be filing for a divorce soon afterward. :P

[foxfeet]

12. Tee frickin' hee hee hee. Congrats Beavers, from a Boilermaker!

[KamaAina]

13. "One of the greatest teams of all time"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Awsi Dooger]

20. USC's best teams would have waltzed through the SEC

Like the '03 and '04 teams. They were stacked with talent including at the skill positions. In '05 the defense was depleted and injured and in '06 through '08 the difference makers at the skill positions simply have not been there. The '03 team went into Auburn and barely broke a sweat in Leinart's first ever start, 23-0 over Cadillac and Ronnie Brown and company.

I'm a USC alum but I never thought this would be a national title year. I posted that on DU a month or so ago, that it looked certain to be another top 5 team but not national championship caliber. I think my summation was we've dropped from great to very, very good.

The SEC assertion that there are too many diabolical road blocks is self serving laughable. When an Alabama goes up, a Tennessee goes down. Some schools like Mississippi and Miss State are always mid to bottom and it's a joke when someone like Kentucky is touted. You end up with 3 or 4 stout games, at most, and that's partially offset by the SEC's petrified avoidance of non conference toughies, particularly disgraceful Florida and it's refusal to even consider an out of conference, out of state road game. Weird things happen on the road, as USC discovered last night.

[Twillig]

21. Thanks. Amen!

Don't bet the Beavs when they play Cal at home. There is a weird inversion where the two teams play better on the others home ground. Look it up.

That's my tip of the year. :-)

[jobycom]

26. Yeah, waltzing is about all they could have managed.

Cupcake team in a cupcake conference. They are the Sarah Palin of the NCAA--big fish in a tiny pond. Put them in a real conference, and they lose two to four games every year, including they "Championship" years--one of which they only earned by crying so hard that one ranking system gave them a consolation Number 1.

[mnhtnbb]

28. Ha Ha Ha from a Bruin alum!

:rofl: