Should foreign-born people be allowed to run for Vice President?

[_Jumper_]

It can be the "separate but equal" version of civil unions in this area...

[DuctapeFatwa]

1. They should be able to run for President, Vice-President, whatever

office they are fool enough to seek :)

[HEyHEY]

2. WHy was this moved?

[MrSlayer]

3. No. Must be born here to hold the high offices.

I agree with that 100%.

[_Jumper_]

5. What about a separate but equal system?

Let THEM have a shot at the #2 spot.

[MAlibdem]

4. they'd also have to be allowed to be prez

and i DONT want prez arnold. Just bad for democracy

[HEyHEY]

6. We have to deny equal rights to people because it's bad for democracy?

I'm confused

[MAlibdem]

9. I mean arnold's campaign would be bad for democracy

democracy should be as much as possible removed from popularity contests. Actors and politics have been shown to mix, but i dont think it's a good thing

Cults of Personality blow, ideas are the key

[HEyHEY]

12. If cults of personality are wrong and ideas are key....

Why would you say you don't want a foriegn person running. BEcause they aren't American? Aren't in the "Born in the USA club"?

What if a foriegner has a good idea?

[MAlibdem]

14. Im talking specifically about arnold

the governor of ca. I dont really care beyond that.

[_Jumper_]

15. Imagine if they debated

They may do something outrageous like ask tough, unpopular questions. ;)

[woofless]

23. The Constitution, Jeremy

It is the law and has been from the beginning. Only a Native born citizen can be President. We have enough talk about amending the Constitution without adding something else to the mix. It is extremely difficult to get 2/3 of the Senate, 2/3 of the House then 2/3 of the states to ratify. Check out the ERA. Still not ratified by the states.

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29. Let's revive slavery then

The sad fact is that America is probably the only Western country that doesn't grant equal rights. Canada? Those lunatics do! Canada will be a Balkanized, Third World country in 2,050 minutes because of this.

[HEyHEY]

30. Yeah but woof

Don't you think it's an old law and for the sake of equal rights should be changed?

[_Jumper_]

31. Equal rights????

You are a perfect example of the trouble non-native-born Americans cause! Don't try to impose strange ideas like equal rights on us! We'll invade you, steal your oil, kill all your leaders, and covert you to Jedism if you don't stop it!

[HEyHEY]

32. I give! I give!

Sorry.... :-)

[HEyHEY]

33. I give! I give!

Sorry.... :-)

[_Jumper_]

36. Too late

You're lucky that I am a fake American so I can't become president. If I could, well, all I can say is Canada.

[woofless]

39. Nope. I don't see a problem with it frankly.

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40. Woofless

Are you or have you ever been a progressive?

[woofless]

57. YUP, for more than thirty years and I vote too.

[_Jumper_]

58. Darn

I was going to attack you as an "armchair American." :P

[HEyHEY]

41. Well, we're gonna have to disagree on that then

:-)

[_Jumper_]

45. I'm glad you see the light

If you have the right "background" and keep learning I am sure John Ashcroft can ceritfy you as 99.999999999% American.

[HEyHEY]

47. One day, god willng, I will be a citizen without equal rights!

Wipes tear from eye

[_Jumper_]

55. You won't be dissapointed

And us progressives will be there to fight for your equal rights...

[_Jumper_]

7. How could he be worse than other native-born Republicans, like W?

Would you support segregation to prevent Colin Powell from becoming president?

[Darranar]

25. So one foreign-born citizen is an idiot...

is that an excuse to smear all of them?

[HEyHEY]

34. looks that way

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38. Mr. Darranar

Are you or have you ever been an immigrant?

[roguevalley]

49. I agree with the constitution as it stands.

[Kamika]

8. NO

Because they might become President and I think a President should have been born in the US so He/She has American values.




Thanks

[HEyHEY]

10. Isn't AMerica a nation founded on diverse immigrants

Who says what "American Values" are? Middle class White people? Maybe that's the problem.

[_Jumper_]

13. We must always have a white president

Don't you realize that if we gave everyone equal opportunity to run the chances of us having a non-white president would skyrocket? We can't have that! The White House must be kept white!







*the above was sarcasm*

[HEyHEY]

16. Eeww could you imagine a "coloured" person in the White house

That'd be terrible.... I don't know why, but it would be.

[_Jumper_]

19. Especially if he or she knew more than one language!

Oh the humanity!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HEyHEY]

20. Bi - lingual - terribly Un-American - the person is clearly a spy

[_Jumper_]

24. And they might watch soccer, cricket or something

That would distract them from dealing with things like terrorist threats. We need a REAL American who will defend the country and not be busy watching soccer or cricket.

[Kamika]

17. dude

American values aren't something I'm pulling outta my ass here..

Alot of immigrants are just not "american" we have to accept that.

My parents are from Korea, they know how to handle money, and english. Apart from that thay are "korean" in every sense.

Not to mention they are extremely racist, and religious fundie nuts. I swear mom is gonna put up a picture of Bush soon because of this amendment thing.

[HEyHEY]

18. "Not to mention they are extremely racist, and religious fundie nuts."

Yeah, no Natural American President has ever been that.

What about a well mannered Dutchman - can he be pres?

[Kamika]

42. no

He's too dutch

[HEyHEY]

44. Fucking ING direct bastard!

[Kamika]

48. sorry :.(

whats ING bastard btw?

[HEyHEY]

50. Maybe you don't get the same ads

its a bank that has a dutch guy for the tv spokesperson

[Kamika]

51. oh

I thought you called me a ING bastard :p

[_Jumper_]

21. So what?

Let them run and let the people sort it out. There are plenty of "un-American" native-born people. Five letters: PNAC W

[_Jumper_]

22. So what?

Let them run and let the people sort it out. There are plenty of "un-American" native-born people. Five letters: PNAC W

[RC]

27. I wondered why the White House was called that.

Now I know.

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35. It is something only us fake Americans are told

We are told this so we don't get uppity.

[_Jumper_]

11. "American values"

What if people like "fake American" values better? Do you not believe in democracy???????

[Darranar]

28. "American values"?

What specific "American values" are possessed by every American but not every immigrant?

[Darranar]

26. Certainly...

we do live in a democracy, right?

[Deja Q]

37. Not this time. We have rule of law and I don't want to see Govn'r Grop'r

go any further and be any more of a dumbass.

He wants to peddle his "obey the rule of law" crap instead of talking about the spirit of the law. Let him bathe in his own kettle of cack for once. He wants to run for prez. He can't. Law says so. F* him. Does the rule of law become something to eliminate the instant it becomes an inconvenience? Repukes think so.

[_Jumper_]

43. So you want to deny equal rights because of one guy?

How is Arnold any worse than other Republicans? At least he is socially moderate. Moreover, we lose a ton of talented people because of this rule. Most immigrants are Democrats.

[arwalden]

46. Didn't An Austrian Already Try This?????????

[Xithras]

52. Abolutely not

There are still too many countries and too many people in the world who wish this nation ill. While the odds that a foreign agent could make it into the Presidency are extremely small, this is one area where the only acceptable risk is ZERO.

[HEyHEY]

53. Don't a shitload of Americans wish your contury ill too?

Like McViegh

[Xithras]

54. Yup

The difference, of course, is that a well trained and financed foreign agent would have a better chance of getting into the position than our homegrown wacko's.

Besides, what's the point in expanding the pool if it isn't absolutely neccesary? The day a qualified, foreign born applicant steps forward and says "I want to be president", we can revisit the issue. For now it's simply a distraction "Watch Ahnuld, not Bush".

[_Jumper_]

56. What about PNAC?

Do you think foreign governments couldn't buy a puppet?