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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:41 PM
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Ever have a family member so stupid that you had to kick them out of your life?
My mother. Why did I ever seek to meet her. And then get in touch AGAIN in spite of my better judgement. I said I'd kick her out of my life if she went there- and she went there. Without even pausing for breath.

I'll have to forgive from a distance.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:43 PM
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1. and, I thought I had the mother to end all Mothers...
:hug:

from a distance....yes. arm's length.no. so far, about 60 miles seems to work for us. :toast:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:29 AM
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14. I think there are several of us unlucky in that department.
:hug:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:47 PM
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2. I haven't had any contact with most of my family for decades...
...and I doubt that I ever will. It's no loss at all.
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vard28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:54 PM
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3. My dumbass brother
for shitting on his THIRD wife. She put up with ALL of his puffed up, holier-than-thou, rightwing Christian, republican, bragging, spoiled brat asshole antics until she finally had proof he was cheating on her. They've only been married two years.

I'm done with him. This gal is so nice (not like the first two wives who are both real life psycho bitches) and all she did was fall for his lies 'cause she thought he was SO nice when she met him after she divorced her first husband who beat the shit out of her. She now feels "so stupid" (her words) 'cause she fell for his bullshit. She sought his attention 'cause she thought he was so nice 'cause he didn't hit her.

Not to mention the fact that, at 42, he still can't put on his big boy underpants and be a dad to the three children he fathered with the first two wives.

I could go on, but I'm truly afraid my head would explode. That is all. :mad: :banghead:
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:59 PM
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4. Yep. Been there, done that.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:01 AM
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5. Just about all my stupid-ass relatives are dead.
Most of them were my Dad's brothers.

They specialized in giving unwanted (and wrong) "advice," flat-out racism and misogny, and simple stupidity.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:03 AM
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6. Uncle Jonathan.
He was a total asshole. I am thankful he is dead. And yes, it WAS natural causes... :grr:

buffy/
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:05 AM
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7. I had an uncle Jonathan, too!
My Dad's older brother, absolute asshole.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:14 AM
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8. Sorry, Archae.
:hug: Yeah, my uncle Jonathan did a particularly nasty thing to my mother. :(
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:18 AM
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9. It makes me SAD.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:23 AM
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10. Not stupid but grossly insensitive, overbearing, domineering.
I just broke off contact with my brother's wife--I've known her for 40 some years--and this has been building for a long time. But she would continue to send me right wing e-mails full of lies
even after I'd suggested many times she should check the content of them for facts before forwarding.

I'm just so sick of all the lies. I'm sick of people who don't care they're supporting liars.
Enough. Just enough.

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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:41 AM
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11. I was that family member.
Many members of my family told me to quit coming around back in my criminal drug addict days. I don't blame them for it either. I was no goddam good. A few have invited me back, now that I've got my shit together (clean 11 yrs, 10 mos, 4 days, and about 3 hrs). But the rest of 'em I only nod to at funerals.

I'm sorry things went so bad with your mom, Peake. Maybe in her case (as in mine) real consequences will lead to real change.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 02:09 AM
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12. Congrats on being clean.
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 02:10 AM by Peake
I just passed 5 years, Godwilling.

But no, no more chances with my mother. A potential girlfriend blew it with me for the same sort of thing. I had a bad feeling from the moment I answered the phone, on my mom's call. Sadly, I have that same feeling with most people. Diogenes never found his one honest man...

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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:27 AM
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21. By real consequences leading to real change...
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 10:29 AM by Iggo
...I mean that maybe her knowing that she's lost you forever will lead to her making positive changes. Doesn't change the fact that she's lost you forever.

EDIT: Oh and thanks for the congrats, and back atcha. Five years ain't nothin' to sneeze at. It's all downhill after those first six months anyhow, right? ;)
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:18 PM
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23. Thanks, but people only get worse.
She never ever would have done what she did if I meant even the slightest amount to her.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:26 AM
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13. Yep.
And that same relative cyber stalks me here on DU, so I can't even elaborate.x(
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MonkeyToesGammy Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 07:11 AM
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15. I know how you feel
My mother is nuts as is my brother and sister. I stay away too. :tinfoilhat:
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 07:47 AM
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16. Yes. Sometimes that's the best thing to do, for your own emotional health.
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 07:48 AM by raccoon


If it's a choice between putting up with their bullshit, abusiveness, sense of entitlement, etc., vs. kicking them out of your life---well, my choice is the latter.



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BeachBaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:41 AM
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17. Ugh. Yes. My parents. Just about two years ago.
And I was just talking about this very subject yesterday, with a very good friend of mine.

But I didn't distance myself from them because they're "stupid", per se. They're right-wing, fundamental, born-again Christian literalists. They are also Republicans - and will vote Republican for the rest of their lives because "we need to overturn Roe v Wade". Try to tell them that overturning only dumps it into the states' laps, and they don't want to hear it. They believe that the entire Middle East should be blasted to glass; that all Middle Eastern children are nothing more than "terrorists in training"; still believe that we did the right thing by occupying Iraq; called me (a mother of two, btw) a "baby-killer" because I vote for candidates who are pro-choice; believe that a woman who consequently becomes pregnant after being raped should keep the pregnancy because it's "God's will"; stopped talking to me for about 4 months when I worked for the Kerry campaign because they were "embarrassed" that their daughter was "brainwashed by the people who are going to send this country to hell in a handbasket". Oh, the irony. And all that I mentioned above is but a smidgen of their mindset.

Another serious issue worth mentioning....after several "threats" of suicide and murder-suicide, eventually resulting in mental health facility evaluations, my father was "diagnosed" as being an extreme narcissist and has frequent bouts of narcissistic rage; in other words, he's a master manipulator and control freak who verbally attacks me, my brother and my mother to intimidate and keep us "in line". He also has no qualms with insulting all three of us in one way or another - telling my mother that she's not "intellectually stimulating enough" for him, and telling my brother that he's a "loser"; but he had a special penchant for me, and his verbal attacks knew no bounds. When I gained weight during my pregnancies, I was too fat; when I lost all the weight, I was too skinny; when I did volunteer work for Vietnam veterans, I was apt to upset the veterans because I "can't comprehend" what they went through; when I registered Democrat, I was "being controlled by the devil". The most disturbing thing of all, though, is that his behavior isn't a "disease" or "illness" that could be cured. We were all told that his behavior is mentally, emotionally, and *potentially* physically destructive, and were strongly advised to separate ourselves from him.

My mother attempted to leave my father 4 times; she lived with me and my family during these periods. Her sisters and I spent many hours talking with my mother....reminding her that she has family and friends who will support her; that she is financially capable of living independently; and that she is doing the right thing for herself. We were also made aware that she was taking high doses of Xanax because of her anxiety in dealing with him - and reminded her that NO ONE should have to take drugs to deal with a relationship. We had JUST talked her into seeing a counselor, when I found out that my dad had been calling her at work and on her cellphone....throwing Bible passages and their wedding vows at her. She went back to him - and then told my dad everything that her sisters and I had said. BRILLIANT.

For me, the straw that broke the camel's back was in October of 2006. By that point, I had begged the both of them to please keep the topics of religion and politics out of our conversations....and to please respect my pov, and I will do my best to respect theirs. I told them that I needed their support as I went through my divorce while raising my two sons. They invited me and my boys to dinner one evening, and when I walked in the door, my dad had an obscenely huge map of the Middle East spread out on the living room floor. I didn't even have my coat off, when he proclaims that it is his responsibility as a parent to teach his child - and with my boys standing there with me, he tells me how "uneducated" I am, how "naive" I am, how I'm a product of the propagandist agenda, and that I'm not being a responsible parent - because I'm not properly protecting my children from the threat that is the Middle East.

At that point, I had been in counseling for about 7 months - to help deal with the overwhelming stress in this relationship. But it got to a point where the counselor suggested I go to my physician for anti-anxiety meds, since the stress I was dealing with was becoming unbearable. One visit with my doctor was enough - my blood pressure was way too high. I told my doctor that I didn't need medication to handle the blood pressure, or Xanax to relieve my anxiety. I knew what I had to do.

I can say, without a shadow of a doubt, that I did everything I could before I walked away from my parents almost 2 years ago. This past weekend, my brother informed me that he needs to break away from them as well, for his own sanity. Unfortunately, it's too late for my mother - she's too far gone to see the forest for the trees.

Sorry for the rant - but it's been a hot-button issue for me, and sometimes it feels pretty damned good to vent.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:07 AM
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18. You did the right thing, JGD. It's really hard and sad to have
to split from family, but your emotional health is just as important as your physical health.

I wish you peace.

:hug:

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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:11 AM
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19. ...
Amazing how many people have to do this with a family member isn't it......:hug:
I unfortunately had to disassociate myself from my niece as well, which makes me sad, but I don't have a choice as you know...
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:12 AM
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20. I have a half-sister whom I haven't seen for close to 15 years.
Actually, I've probably seen her a total of five times since I was about 16 years old.

Drugs, child after child, drugs, child after child, drugs, welfare, no work. AFAIK she's never worked. I've frequently wondered if she'd ever had to prostitute herself.

She'd go to see my sister now and then for money, but all Susan would do is to give her diapers, formula and food.

We can't have her in our lives. It's sad.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:31 AM
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22. no.... the things that we argue about are small compared
to how much we love each other and how much we are willing to do for each other.


And yes, I KNOW how lucky I am.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:33 PM
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24. Yes. A brother and a sister.
I didn't see my brother for about fifteen years before he died of an OD. He was a true sociopath. Used to bully and torture the rest of us just to get away with it. Once tried to rape a girlfriend of mine just because I was in love with her. When he got married, he pimped his wife rather than getting a job. For a while I thought he had killed his child, but the child resurfaced far away from him, luckily.

My sister is still alive, but abandoned her kids to be raised by my parents. Never held a job, and basically lived off them, pushing all the right guilt buttons, until their retirement was gone and they had to give up all their plans to travel. I helped as much as I could with her kids, but I had my own, and lived 500 miles away. When her youngest daughter got pregnant at 15, she refused to let her have an abortion (no idea why, there's not a moral bone in her body), yet she also refuses to take any part in raising her. The baby wound up with my parents, too, for a while. Abandoning her grand-daughter and expecting my parents to raise her was the final straw for me.

Sometimes blood isn't enough.
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Lady-Damai Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:42 PM
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25. I have..... I refuse to keep negative ppl around me....


Life is too damn short to have to deal with other ppls insecurities.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:50 PM
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26. I strongly agree. But what if you can't avoid them?
Work, for example? I am NOT going into a different field.
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