Why Is The Movie Title: "The Passion of THE Christ"??

[arwalden]

Why not just "The Passion Of Christ"? I've always heard Jesus Christ, but I don't recall ever having heard the expression "Jesus the Christ".

Is it one of those subtle differences like "Smokey Bear" vs "Smokey the Bear"?

-- Allen

[Shoedogg]

1. Christ is actually a title of some sort.

Not Jesus' last name.

[arwalden]

3. LOL... Reeeeeally? There was no Mary Christ or Joseph Christ?

I always wondered what their Christmas cards
would have said. :hi:

Happy Holidays
from
The Christ Family
Joseph, Mary, Jesus

[LynneSin]

12. How could they send out Christmas cards?

Since Christmas wasn't really established until sometime after Jesus' death AND Jesus earthly dad wasn't really mentioned much after age 12

[arwalden]

14. Okay... EASTER Cards!

[LynneSin]

17. I doubt Jesus would have sent those out

he pretty much hightailed it up to heaven once he showed everyone he was alive

[felonious thunk]

16. I'm quite sure the Christs celebrated Christmas

I mean, how can you possibly accuse the Christ family of being so un-American that they didn't celebrate Christmas. I promise you that the Christs sent out cards wishing good tidings for all, and little Jesus left out some milk and cookies for Santa.

I can hear Jesus now "Yay. Today is the day of my birth. Let us celebrate with cookies, feasts of turkey and stuffing, and erecting evergreen trees inside our homes to be decorated with strung lights and ornaments."

[LynneSin]

18. You're frightening me....you're acting like you're from Perry County....

:scared:

wait you were!!!

[arwalden]

23. Frightening... I'm Hearing Dr. Zoidberg's Voice As I Read Your Message!

What's wrong with me??

-- Allen

[oneighty]

32. No turkey

New World turkey not discovered yet. Electric neither.

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[HawkerHurricane]

50. And evergreens be a little hard to get...

not being native to the area and all.

[bif]

8. I thought his complete name was Jesus Harrison Christ!

IT'S NOT?

[displacedtexan]

45. Christ (Christos in Greek) means cross.

Jesus ben David was his name.

And passion means all-consuming devotion to something (like a cause).

[Xithras]

2. Christ is a title

IIRC, it's Greek for "Annointed One".

[arwalden]

5. Okay... so inserting "The" doesn't really change its meaning, Correct?

it's just a matter of style and useage (I'm guessing).

Thanks for the reply.

-- Allen

[blondeatlast]

39. Pretty much. Kinda disappointing, if ya ask me! nt

[oneighty]

34. If Man rub oil on him self

he is the "Anointed One"? Ashcroft comes to mind as well as other "Anointments"

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[mr_hat]

4. Trademark issue. There was an earlier, "The Passion of that Christ Guy."

[arwalden]

6. I Wonder How Porn Movies Will Parody The Title...

we've already had "Shaving Ryan's Privates"... and the word "Passion" is just BEGGING to be twisted into something dirty.

-- Allen

[chiburb]

21. Christ! The Passion!

.

[blondeatlast]

40. Well, in this case it means "suffering," if that's any help.

And I'm pretty sure it is.

From dictionary.com:

Passion
The sufferings of Jesus in the period following the Last Supper and including the Crucifixion, as related in the New Testament.
A narrative, musical setting, or pictorial representation of Jesus's sufferings.

I think He would enjoy the porno name game, actually...

[felonious thunk]

7. Catholic thing

Old time Catholicism usually referred to him as "The Christ" rather than Christ. I actually think the ommission of "the" is a reformation thing.

[Eumenides]

9. What about H?

If Christ is a title, then Jesus H Christ must be: Jesus Henderson, The Christ. :think:

[bif]

11. The H is for Harrison

I thought everybody know that!

[Dookus]

15. No...

it's for "Howard"

Out Father, who art in Heaven, Howard be thy name....

[lazarus]

38. Silly, it stand for Hallmark

Because god cared enough to send the very best....

[DemBones DemBones]

43. No, it's for Haploid, reflecting the genetic makeup of Jesus.

Jesus had only one human parent, ergo, he had half the usual number of chromosomes, meaning he was haploid rather than diploid. All your cells are diploid, except. . . your sex cells (ova or sperm, as the case may be.) Presumably, you can figure out why this is so.

[blondeatlast]

41. Sheesh, people.

HORATIO.

That's how my Sunday School teacher father said it!

[LynneSin]

10. Christ was a title - not his name

And yes, it is one of those subtle differences like Smokey Bear and Smokey the Bear (meaning smokey the cop in DB slang)

[nickinSTL]

13. the christ

The Christ is a title, the Greek one above 'Anointed One', is one translation I've heard.

I think another is that it's the Greek translation of the Hebrew 'Messiah'.

[HawkerHurricane]

19. Because

It is an effort by the early Christians to eliminate the thought of competing Christs.

Christ is a bad translation of the Hebrew word Messiah... both mean 'annointed' or 'chosen'. BUT what they like to leave out nowadays is that more than one person could be annointed or chosen... therefore, more than one could be a 'Christ'.

By calling Jesus 'The Christ', it implies that there is only one, and Jesus is it... Where Jesus Christ allows the possibility of others.

[THUNDER HANDS]

20. so, by that reasoning

Could Mohammed be Mohammed Christ?

Or am I just confusing what Mohammed and Jesus were supposed to be?

[HawkerHurricane]

24. Yes...

if you use the common definition of Christ, 'Annointed by God', then Mohammed could qualify... as could Buhdha and Joseph Smith.

NOT that I'm making any such claim.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

26. OFF TOPIC ALERT.... so, how's retirement? not sunk in yet, I

guess.
It took me about oh, 10 minutes or so to get used to it.

[HawkerHurricane]

27. Not sunk in, no...

It probably won't 'sink in' until I get a new job.

[DemBones DemBones]

44. I don't think so, not to disrespect Mohammed, but because

he was a prophet, while Jesus is THE Messiah, THE Saviour. I mean that, according to my understanding of Islam, Mohammed was the greatest of all prophets to date (maybe they allow for another to follow?) but not a messiah or saviour who acts as a sacrifice to free all humankind from our sins.

The concept of a messiah is a Jewish one, and it differentiates the messiah from the prophets, of which there are many in the Old Testament. Jews started anticipating the Messiah long before Jesus was born. Christians (who, in the beginning were Jews who followed Jesus) believe Jesus was The Messiah. Islam considers Jesus to be a great prophet, but not a messiah or saviour -- I don't think that Islam expects there ever to be such a being. Jews still wait for the messiah, not believing that Jesus was the one.

[PVnRT]

22. "Christ" is a title, a greek word meaning "messiah"

Thus, it's Jesus The Christ, to be technical.

Unfortunately, it's just weird to scream "JESUS THE FUCKING CHRIST" at idiot drivers on the road, so the "the" is typically removed.

[SOteric]

28. Close, no cigar. It's from the Greek 'Kristos.' It means annointed.

[BurtWorm]

25. "The Passion of This Particular Christ Over Here"

"Not That Christ Way the Fuck Over There. This Here Christ, We're Talking About."

[arwalden]

29. Lest The Be ANY Confusion, Eh?

LOL!

You crack me up BurtWorm!

-- Allen

[smirkymonkey]

48. LOL!!

That's what I was thinking! Like there are so many Christ's that are household names, we won't know which one he is referring to. :)

[arwalden]

30. Are Parents Who Name Their Children "Jesus"...

making life difficult for the little tike? Will he never measure-up to his namesake? (I know it's "hay-soos" but I see it on nametags and business cards... and I see "GEE-zuz".)

-- Allen

And no... I don't say Joo-wan... it's "whan"... so stop saying that. :hi:

[bif]

31. They can refer to them as Jesus The Jimenez

to avoid confusion

[SOteric]

33. Good lord, are y'all still workin' on this? It's from the Greek,

'Kristos.' And subsequently the Latin, "Christi." It means 'annointed.' In English we would say: "Jesus the annointed," or "Emmanuel the annointed." Sentence construction in Greek is different than in English.

[arwalden]

35. You Sound Like The Dad In "My Big Fat Greek Wedding"

"Joo giv me a verd... any verd... and I show yoo it come from dee Greek."

[SOteric]

36. -And I look like him, too!!

:7

Okay, maybe not. ;-)

[Nevernose]

46. His name wasn't even JESUS, fer Christ's sake

"Jesus" is the Greek translation of the Hebrew name "Joshua."

[bleedingheart]

37. Have you ever heard of the Passion Plays?

Its an old term used for plays that enact the death of Jesus who was the Christ (Messiah/God..etc)

Oberamergau in Germany has one of the longest "running" Passion plays...they even go so far as to grow their hair long and supposedly pick a virgin to play Mary...

[Aristus]

42. Careful with the comparisons to Mohammed there.

Muslims don't believe Mohammed was the son of God, except insofar as every man is a son of God. They don't believe he was divine. He was God's last prophet to mankind. Incidentally, Jesus shows up in the Koran. He's mentioned over forty times. But he is also considered a prophet of Islam, and not divine as in Christianity. I have to laugh when dunderheaded evangelicals castigate Muslims because "they doan bleeve in JEE-zuss!" Sure they do. He's one of their most important prophets, just not divine.

[DemBones DemBones]

47. Jesus knows I hate to

defend "dunderheaded evangelicals" who castigate Muslims, but your own post explains that Islam doesn't consider Jesus to be "divine, as in Christianity." That's the point -- Christians believe Jesus was divine and The Son of God, Muslims think that Jesus was just a prophet.

So the "dunderheaded evangelicals" are correct that Muslims don't believe in Jesus the way Christians do; they have a different view.

[absyntheNsugar]

49. are you saying there should be two skinny ones to balance out the fat one?

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