Father Spanks Daughter In Front Of Class (HIGH SCHOOL)

[matcom]

<snip>

Cudahy - A father concerned about his daughter's behavior at Cudahy High School called her out of her seat in biology class and spanked her in front of shocked classmates and an assistant principal, officials confirmed Monday.

Both Cudahy police and the Bureau of Milwaukee Child Welfare have reviewed the case at the school district's request, and neither found basis for child abuse or neglect.

"Obviously it's unusual to have a girl spanked in front of the class, it's highly unusual, but not a police matter, not at this time from the information we received," said Cudahy police Sgt. Randy Scheel.

The district, however, has changed its visitation procedure for parents. Now they can meet with students only in the office, not a classroom, according to James P. Heiden, director of student services.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/feb04/209858.asp

[WillParkinson]

1. Ah Cudahy, sweet Cudahy...

I will never regret moving out of there.

[Superfly]

2. When I was in school...

my Dad would visit class from time to time, sit in the back, and just listen for a while. I guess he was concerned with the level of education I was getting. You probably can't do that anymore, can you?

[Momgonepostal]

17. I think you can!

My brother in law teaches high school government in California and he had a parent come to class before. The man's son was in danger of failing the class and consequently not graduating, so my BIL called the parents to tell them about it. The dad took a day off of work to come and observe and see how his son was behaving in class. It sounds like the kid was so mortified he was "scared straight" and started doing better. The Dad told my BIL after, not in front of the students, that he felt sorry for my BIL, because of all the "losers" he had in his class. LOL

[Xithras]

23. There are usually restrictions nowadays

FYI, I often volunteer in my kids classrooms. In order to do this nowadays (in California anyway) there are a few hoops you have to jump through. First, you have to be fingerprinted and have a criminal background check done at YOUR expense. After that, you have to get permission from the teacher AND the principal. Following that, you often have to schedule your visits weeks ahead of time and usually cannot visit on certain days or during certain activities (i.e. test days or PE days).

My kids teachers love it when I visit their classrooms because, as a computer scientist (i.e. not only am I a programmer at a college, but I teach), I can usually provide more computer instruction to the kids in an hour than they provide in a week. Still, it's a monstrous pain in the a**.

[Momgonepostal]

28. that's not the case yet here

I'm in Modesto, and I've volunteered in my child's class four years now and have never had to be fingerprinted or needed any kind of background check.

[Xithras]

37. Well I'm in Salida and I DO!

Howdy neighbor!

BTW, from what I've seen SUSD runs a bit differently than MCS or Sylvan Union, but even MCS wanted to verify my DOJ background check with the county DOE before they'd let me in the classroom. I do understand that it's all for good reason, to keep the perverts out of the classrooms, but it CAN get a bit frustrating at times :eyes:

[Momgonepostal]

45. That's interesting...

My husband substitute taught here for a while and he had to jump through all those hoops, at our expense, to do it. For me, just to volunteer, the only thing they've asked of me is to sign in with the office when I get to the school and wear a name tag. We're in one of those other districts you mentioned.

Nice to meet another local. :-)

[mitchum]

44. That was pretty cool of your dad

i wish that more parents were concerned about their children's education. Way to go, Superdad!

[GCP]

3. It's emotional abuse if not physical

Maybe she's a complete brat, but there was no reason to put her through that in front of her classmates and she's never going to get over it as long as she's at that school.

Her parents sound like a complete pair of maroons.

[Robb]

4. Well, THAT'S not going to mess her up for life...

...or anything. :eyes:

[southerngirlwriter]

6. Really.

I'd be willing to bet that a check of her parents' bedroom finds S&M stuff.

I wonder how he'll react when he surfs onto his variation-on-the-theme-of Domination and Submission web site in a couple of years, and there she is!

You have to either HATE your kid or get off on humiliating a physically mature young woman to do something like that.

Sigh.

Edited for a typo.

[Interrobang]

32. So you think S&M = bad parenting?

Woah, woah, woah! Sex bigotry much?

No, the problem there isn't S&M, it's straight out bad parenting. If your kid is at the age where it's possible to talk rationally to them and set clear limits otherwise, and you still think that hitting your kid is the only way, YOU have a problem. It's got nothing to do with getting off on humiliation (which, btw, in the S&M world, revolves entirely around *consent*); it's got to do with just plain bad parenting. The guy probably literally didn't know what else to do, and that has nothing whatsoever to do with his sex life, whatever that might be. It's got to do with his failure as a parent, and our culture's failure to educate responsible parents.

Most practitioners of S&M don't get off on just randomly beating people -- it's got to take place within the rules of the game for it to be any fun. The ones who do, well, they've got something else wrong with them, which makes their fascination with S&M a symptom (of the deeper disorder) and not a cause in itself.

[southerngirlwriter]

35. No, I don't think all S&M types are bad parents.

I do think that all parents who would do what that father did have REAL sadism issues.

To me, S&M that follows "the rules of the GAME" (my emphasis) is something done between consenting, usually loving, partners. Got no problem with that.

But are you really a sadist if the person you're spanking agrees to it, you have their permission, and the limits are discussed in advance?

That's more like, sane and normal and rational kinky behavior that some call S&M.

REAL sadism is something like what this father did.

That probably makes no sense. Go ahead and flame me. I'm too tired to care.

[Fridays Child]

5. That's not discipline. That's humiliation, and it's wrong. Period.

eom

[shanti]

43. thank you, mary pat

my father did this to me in front of several of my friends when i was about 6 or 7. believe me, it leaves lasting scars.

[Rowdyboy]

7. Bet she behaves in class from now on...

A friend of mine followed her out-of-control 13 year old around school one day with a spatula. In each class she sat silently behind him, holding her spatula. She never touched him, or threatened him, but she made her point and embarrassed the little shit in the process.

His behavior improved dramatically. She never had to return...

(hastily dons asbestos clothing)

[THUNDER HANDS]

8. a spatula?

Was she threatening to make him pancakes if he didn't behave?

[Rowdyboy]

10. LOL...Threatening to treat his butt like a pancake is more like it...

But it was metal so it wouldn't have felt good.

[southerngirlwriter]

12. That is, in my opinion,

VERY different than a grown man striking a physically mature young woman on a sexual part of her body (even if you don't consider the ass a sexual part of the body, it's inches away from parts that are) in front of a group of her peers.

A 13 year old boy, in almost all cases, is a child.

A 15 or 16 year old girl is light-years away from a 13 year old boy in developmental terms.

See the difference?

Not that I approve of what that mother did, but I don't think it rises to the level of abuse. This story does.

[mopinko]

15. let me help you with that asbestos clothing

are any of you people parents? of teenagers? guess what, it's HARD. HARD, HARD, HARD. ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

[Loonman]

9. People in NYC pay top dollar for that type of humiliation

Yep.

[Ganja Ninja]

11. Am I the only one who clicked on this hoping for photos?

Does that make me a pervert?

[southerngirlwriter]

14. Yes. It does.

I hope you were kidding.

[BurtWorm]

22. Here's some video for you.

:spank:

[Ganja Ninja]

24. I attended Catholic grade school and .....

there was one nun that all the other teachers would bring their students to for spanking. Sister Rose Agness was her name and she would wail on us with a ruler on the back of the hands. Man that hurt like hell.

[BurtWorm]

25. I wonder if she liked her job.

[grandmasue]

13. Dad should be spanked

Someone should call him out at work and spank him in front of his coworkers! Would he feel embarrassed?

Spanking a teen just shows how he failed to dicipline her as a young child. It is a knee jerk reaction gone too far.

[liberalnurse]

16. I think inflicting shame

is abusive.

[Xithras]

26. How so?

How is shame abusive? I believe that this father was abusive in striking his child on the ass, but not in shaming her (note: I do believe that there are times when spanking small children is justified, but there is NO reason for a father to strike a teenaged child of either sex unless they are defending themselves).

[commander bunnypants]

34. WHAT

come live my life for awhile.

My hair always needs to be cut, my manicurist is my teeth. I constantly feel an ulcer building. I am tired, burnt and constatnly getting more with less.

BTW-Thanks Julie


DDQM

[Xithras]

38. Huh?

What does your haircut have to do with punishing kids?

:shrug:

[grandmasue]

18. Dad at school for another child

Dad was at the school for an issue with another child!

Seems there is a problem in that family that is being kept secret.

Teen girl acts out may be a cry for help.

I have no faith in child services. Too busy shopping and getting their hair done instead of visiting troubled families.

[Missy Vixen]

20. You're kidding me, right?

>I have no faith in child services. Too busy shopping and getting their hair done instead of visiting troubled families.<

I wasn't aware that those who work in child protective services made enough to "shop and get their hair done".

Do you have the slightest idea how difficult their jobs are, let alone anything about their case loads? Do you also believe that there's plenty of money for social services in the United States, especially after * has spent the last three and a half years cutting even more of the funding? If you do, I have a bridge for sale I think you'd like.

Those who work in whatever your state's version of CPS is don't do it because it's fun. It's soul-destroying to see a judge return a kid back to a parent the caseworker knows (and can prove,) is abusive, only to hear later that the kid is either dead or incapacitated due to yet another hellish beating. After all, the kid "should be with his birth family". How many "troubled families" can the caseworker visit per day? How effective are they when those who have typically been first responders, like teachers, pediatric nurses, etcetera, are so overwhelmed by the need that it's impossible for them to keep up?

If you think that child services is a non-stop party, perhaps you need to volunteer for the local office.

Julie

[AngryAmish]

21. Teen girl acting out may be a cry for help

or it could be a bratty teen.

[zbdent]

19. Ah, yes, the Family Values (tm) Sex Fantasy #1322

Call Giordano.

[Cuban_Liberal]

27. I would have arrested the son of a bitch!

If I ever hear of something like that in my jurisdiction, someone WILL be going to jail, and it won't be the daughter!

VIOLENCE BEGETS VIOLENCE, PEOPLE!

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

29. I would never be able to step foot in school again.

That's how wrong that news story is.

[cally]

30. Tomorrow's follow-up story

Teen drops out and runs away from home. That father is insane and abusive. The Assistant Principal should be fired!

[Goldberg]

31. The father should get the shit beat out of him...

in front of his coworkers.

[Padraig18]

33. I'd have knocked the crap out of HIM!

If I'd been in her class, he'd have had to kick MY ass before he spanked HERS! :grr:

[GoddessOfGuinness]

36. What a lucky dad...he's earned

his daughter's hatred.

I hope he's pleased.

[The Lone Liberal]

39. I think children should be beaten everyday.....

up and until they are big enough to catch you sleeping, tie you in bed and set it on fire.

At that time perhaps you should consider slacking off a bit.

[AlFrankenFan]

40. How sad

She damn well better have done something horrible to have something so embarrasing happen.

[shanti]

41. this girl

will leave home as soon as possible, most likely hates her father now. anyone who humiliates a child like this in front of people (especially her peers) should be horsewhipped themselves! :grr:

[shanti]

42. wait, wait

did you read the story? dad was at the school at the time to take care of yet ANOTHER wayward child when this one acted up. it doesn't seem like this dad is taking the teen years too well, eh? lol