Who's the Most F*d Up Movie Director?

[NashVegas]

Talking relatively modern. Tonight, I say Russell (just got done watching Gothic). Tomorrow?

[NashVegas]

1. Hmmm .. Dead Ringers fans In the House?

I loved that one.

[otohara]

6. Loved Dead Ringers

all those creepy instruments, shooting up drugs as they walked around the apt. Yikes...

[stanwyck]

44. Very creepy movie

I like Jeremy Irons. He was almost as weird as the twin brothers as he was as Claus Von Bulow in Reversal of Fortune.

[mopinko]

46. creepiest movie

i ever saw. bbrrrrrr

[bigwillq]

2. Did Croneberg do Crash?

Who did Boxing Helena? Those two movies were seriously fucked up.

[NashVegas]

3. Yes

And David Lynch's daughter did Helena.

[bigwillq]

8. Figures about the daughter

yes, Crash and Helena were scary but neither were that good in my opinion.

[lovedems]

4. Other...

Quentin Tarantino.

Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. That guy has a warped (but excellent) way of thinking. Two of my favorite movies.

[DS1]

9. What's warped?

Seriously? There's nothing I can see in either movie that's warped.

:shrug:

[lovedems]

36. I guess I was getting at all the blood in the movies

and Pulp Fiction has some pretty effed up scenes. The gimp? Anytime there is rape in a movie you have to have a sense of warped.

Edit: Resevoir Dogs, the cop getting his ears cut off to "stuck in the middle with you", again, a notion of warped.

I still love QT, his movies are ones you can watch over and over again.

[DS1]

43. That wasn't warped, it was brilliant!

Here I am, stuck in the middle with you! With Mr. Black doing his little razor blade happy dance :evilgrin:

[lovedems]

49. I said excellent

with warped! :)

I am a lady! Sometimes those things have a tendency to get to me!

QT still rocks. :)

[bigwillq]

11. Favorites of mine as well

I don't really think Quentin's movies are all that fucked up. He is for sure, in my opinion.

[Lizz612]

18. I just saw Kill Bill

Wowza! I don't know whether that was really good or really really bad. The amount of blood was for a guy getting his head chopped off was more realistic than any other movie, and thats what makes it so effed up. Man o man, I'm gonna go watch some kittens play with string, thats nice and tame.

[bigwillq]

21. KB was great

Can't wait for the next part. I think it comes out in April. Wasn't the cliffhanger a shocker? It was bloody but great. To me, his movies are more comical than fucked up. How can anyone take his movies seriously?

[Lizz612]

27. Okay, now I'm thinking it was great....

but man, I empathize with movies to much, gotta remember they're movies. Loved the cliff hanger, but I kinda wanted to see what she did to Sophie. Comical yes, but still pretty fucked up in my opinion. Its not dark humor, or slapstick really, but more like cartoon-ish but with real people and lots of blood. I want to see part 2 really bad now.

[bigwillq]

28. Cartoon comes to mind

when I'm watching a Quentin movie. Was Daryl Hannah Sophie? Please refresh my memory, I saw it the day it came out.

[Lizz612]

33. Nope Julie Dreyfuss

Julie Dreyfuss was Sophie. sorry.

[bigwillq]

34. Excuse me

Julia Louis Dreyfuss comes to mind when you watch a Quentin movie?

[salinen]

5. How the hell could you leave off

John Waters?

[NashVegas]

7. Because

Waters' movies make sense to me?

[MrSoundAndVision]

10. David Lynch

In that he is such an idiot. I'll never forgive him for Dune.

[NashVegas]

13. HeeHee

Did you see the Children of Dune miniseries? That was great!

[Whitacre D_WI]

12. Waters.

I'm a huge Lynch fan, but I don't see him as fucked-up at all. At least no more than me. His movies seem more hyperreal than simply WRONG.

I dig Waters, but can't watch him as often as some of the others.

Anyway, if you're talking modern, you can't ignore Aronofsky. And don't forget the foreigners. Some of them do some messed-up shit.

[NashVegas]

14. Aronofsky

His visuals are fucked up, but I can never connect with his stories :(

[Goldberg]

15. Tim Burton...

he's f-ed up, but he kicks ass! Nightmare Before Christmas was a fucked up movie, that's for sure.

[bigwillq]

17. NBC was awesome

But if I were a kid and saw it I would be scared.

[NightTrain]

16. Gotta be David Lynch!

Ever seen "Eraserhead?" "Wild At Heart?" "Twin Peaks?" "Mulholland Drive?" Seriously strange shit, baby!

And I must give Honorable Mention to Alejandro Jodorowsky for "El Topo" and "Santa Sangre." You wanna talk fucked-up...?!

[K8-EEE]

32. DEF DAVID LYNCH!!

BINGO...

[mitchum]

19. You could have stopped your poll after listing Ken Russell

easily the most fucked up director. The guy could turn an industrial safety film into a garish, overblown mess. I am astounded that people have continued to give him money for decades. Middlebrow meets excess.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

37. God man, The Lair of the White Worm.

Need I say more?

[NashVegas]

39. Hey I Dug That!

First place I saw Hugh Grant. He had a lovely knee, IIRC.

[mitchum]

52. Listzomania?

but "Lair of the White Worm " was enough

[Screaming Lord Byron]

53. I think The Devils takes the biscuit, though.

[Mrs. Venation]

20. Brian DePalma

That misogynistic moran cannot make a film without violence against women. IMHO, Stanley Kubric (A Clockwork Orange) runs a close second, with Martin Scorsese placing third.

I think there is enough violence in the world without glorifying it for "entertainment." I am not entertained by violence; I am sickened by it and I do not patronize movies with violent themes. I also boycott directors whose gratuitous violence has helped to create a society that is complacent about the impact of entertainment violence.

[NashVegas]

22. Yow

I just checked imdb to see what he's up to.

I guess you won't be too interested in his treatment of the Black Dahlia (old Hollywood murder, pretty gruesome).

[mitchum]

25. I have to disagree with you about Scorsese and gratuitous violence

the quality of his work has certainly slipped over the years, but his violence carries a moral weight. It is not there merely to satisfy some kind of lurid thrill. I will also defend much of Peckinpah's work on the same grounds. The violence is unpleasant, but not gratuitous.

[Mrs. Venation]

31. Then We'll Have To Agree To Disagree

I stand by my opinion; the prevalence of violence in our society, and our complacency about it, is a sickness that is, IMHO, exploited by the likes of Scorcese. I do not, and will not, patronize his films.

[mitchum]

38. We do agree about the prevalence of violence and society's

complacency. I'm actually more offended by the exploding-car-crash chop-chop-chop-and-here-comes-a-wisecrack type of violence found in most mainstream Hollywood product. Typified by the Lethal Weapon franchise (I think there must be a law that one of those must be playing at all times on cable) In my opinion, that type of cartoonishness is very desensitizing. However, I do respect your right to reject any and all violent entertainment.

[bubblesby2002]

23. I voted for Cronenberg

Crash was the most f***ed up movie I have ever seen. And Dead Ringers was pretty strange too.

[mouse7]

41. Crash was definitely pretty messed up

There might be others as messed up as Cronenberg, but nobody is more messed up than Cronenberg.

[IronLionZion]

24. Stanley Kubrik all the way

and I'm drunk

[salinen]

26. relatively modern?

How about Ed Wood.

[Interrobang]

29. Lucio Fulci, hands down.

Anyone who makes movies where plot is quite incidental to grotesquerie, horror, and terror, and whose overwhelming film aesthetic seems to be surrealistic fear deserves the title of "Most F*d Up Movie Director" to me.

Americans and Canadians (like Cronenberg) have nothing on the Europeans when it comes to messed up cinema, as my next candidate would probably be the brilliant but definitely unstable Leif Junker.

[NashVegas]

30. Never Saw Any

of his, but looking at the list, the titles alone indicate high fucked-up probability.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

35. Peter Jackson

Come to think of it, I haven't heard of him since The Frighteners. Anyone know what the ultra-low budget Kiwi splatter auteur's up to these days? I hope he's still in the business.

[NashVegas]

40. I Heard He's

Trying to get some computer program off the ground.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

47. Oh, now I remember, he's doing some Dungeons and Dragons movie

with that weird kid from The Faculty and the fat kid from The Goonies. I'd heard he was going to cast the freaky amish guy from Witness.

[tigereye]

42. Roman Polanski should probably be on there

although he has made some amazing films, he strikes me a quite troubled... The Tenant was one of the creepiest films I have ever seen and I still think so after all these years.

The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover by Peter Greenaway was pretty disturbing too. For some reason John Waters seems tame, oddly enough, next to some of these other folks.

[mitchum]

54. You're right about both Polanski and Greenaway

[slackdude]

45. Larry Clark

Kids and Bully were seriously fucked up movies.

[mitchum]

55. Clark seems to display a very disturbing interest in the affairs...

of adolescents for such an old guy. Hmmm...

[stanwyck]

48. Oliver Stone

gets my vote for the truly nightmarish (although often brilliant) "Natural Born Killers". I thought I was going to have to leave that movie. I was getting so queasy and unsettled.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

50. Todd Solondz.

If I have to sit through Happiness again, I swear I'll be heading for the razorblades.

[mitchum]

51. I could sit through "Happiness" several times a week

I honestly think it is the best film of the past several years.

I was disappointed by "Storytelling" though. I thought the "non-fiction" section was very well done, but found the "fiction" section to be lacking Solondz's odd ambiguity (it was little more than a conflation of "fucking the teacher" and the Mandingo myth)

[Screaming Lord Byron]

56. Then you're a hell of a lot tougher than I.

Man, I was practically in tears from that one.

[mitchum]

57. Watch it as a comedy...

because it is one. A very bleak, moving comedy.

[POed_Ex_Repub]

58. Is someone going to say Mel Gibson?

Okay, I deserve to be beat for that one...

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