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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:51 PM
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Just got back from the Klan rally......
Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 06:10 PM by bowens43
in Raleigh North Carolina. That's right, the KKK and the American Nazi party had a rally at the capital building in downtown Raleigh. They had about 15 people show up. Some in nazi uniforms some in the traditional sheets and hoods. It was totally bizarre. They carried Nazi flags, pictures of Hitler and posters with hate speech. I stood on the other side of barriers and hundreds of cops in riot gear with the other thousand or so counter protesters. It got pretty scary a couple of times. Seems people around here don't care for the Klan anymore. As I was standing their one elderly white woman came walking up to me and started talking about how these Nazis were spitting on the freedom that so many died in world war II to protect. She ended up in tears and walked away just shaking her head.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:53 PM
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1. Was Jesse Helms there by any chance?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:21 PM
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23. I looked for him but didn't see him.
Speaking of Jessie. One thing I can say about him is that he always answered my letters when he was in the senate. He NEVER agreed with me but he always responded. Dole and Edwards have never responded to my letters.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:55 PM
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35. All responses I've ever gotten were rude and basically called me dumb...
Thanks Senator Inhofe. You're completely useless!
Duckie
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:53 PM
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2. I'm glad to hear NC is improving
Maybe Dean Smith had something to do with that:)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:55 PM
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6. He didn't. The people of NC are not a bunch of inbred bigots
It is a research hub.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:00 PM
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8. NC is a wonderful state
Hardly the backwater some northerners think we are.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:29 PM
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28. I don't think NC is a backwater at all.
Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 08:29 PM by northwest
Also, with the big basketball culture there, I would think that at least race relations there are very good.

NC is a big banking hub, too. Very urban-professional.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:34 PM
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30. Yeah, they should sit in Malaprop's some Sunday afternoon,
and then get back to us. If Asheville is 'backwater', there is a hell of a lot of people moving here; housing is so expensive, I can't afford to buy one.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:02 AM
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38. We should meet at Malaprops soon
Doesn't it suck that the ACRC has to move? Bastard developers! :grr:
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:56 PM
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36. Yup...It's SOUTH Carolina that you have to worry about...
Or so I'm told. (Just kidding. Please don't get upset if you're from there.)
Duckie
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:21 PM
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22. Raleigh-Durham
Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 06:21 PM by IAmJacksSmirkingReve
is one corner of the Research Triangle - it's actually a very nice place.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:54 PM
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3. 15 ppl huh
Sounds like they had a republican meeting at the same time
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:21 PM
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27. damn girl your really on tonight
wana go catch a movie with me?
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:54 PM
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4. how long was Bush's motorcade?
:P
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:36 PM
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31. GOOD ONE!
:D
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:54 PM
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5. My friend's father runs the Chamber of Commerce in a small NC town
and had an embarrassing episode when the CCC got a table at a local event. They are definitely NOT welcome in most parts of NC and are as sore a point as many things are in the south.
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screwfacecapone Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:59 PM
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7. kinda like the famous freeper war rally
that was shown on cspan, except with twice as many people.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:02 PM
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9. I hate Nazis. I hate Illinois Nazis even more, but...
those people died for the right for anyone to organize a protest/demostration, no matter how vile.

Their numbers reflect their dying ways. Let them organize, much like a Freeper Rally, it's just an embarrasment.
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reddouglasfir Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:04 PM
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11. I agree
Once they start holding rallies for 2 people they will go off into the sunset.

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screwfacecapone Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:07 PM
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16. I bet that by this time in the next 20 years
these types of groups, realizing the futility of thier cause, change thier focus to a charity group, not unlike amnesty international, but focusing on inner city kids.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:02 PM
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10. You're lying!
NC is the heart of NASCAR country, and although I don't know anything about NASCAR or NC, I have read enough here to know that it is all racist. I bet there were thousands of KKK/Nazis and only 15 counter protesters...at least from what I have read here.
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reddouglasfir Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:06 PM
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13. NASCAR is for rednecks and Howard Dean
Didn't Howard Dean want the redneck vote when he was still in?
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:16 PM
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19. No
Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 06:19 PM by buff2
The redneck vote belongs exclusively to the racist,bigoted,nazi,fascist republicans.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:07 PM
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15. Nope, they can't have been NASCAR fans, the Swastika TURNS RIGHT
:evilgrin:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:26 AM
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40. LOL! Good one!
I like it! :evilgrin:
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Heyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:09 PM
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17. Aw come ON...
Can we back off the NASCAR for crying out loud? Do we have to do this again? :mad:

"I don't know anything about NASCAR or NC, I have read enough here to know that it is all racist."

So you don't know anything about it... you just know it's RACIST!

Hahahahahaha

That is hillarious...

Heyo

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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:06 PM
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12. KKK rally in NC?
I did not hear anything about it.

I can't stand those idiots anyway.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:46 PM
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25. "I can't stand those idiots anyway."
I hope not...
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:07 PM
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14. What were you doing there?
I hope it was selling crosses and kerosene at exorbitant rates.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:18 PM
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20. Nope.....
Not selling crosses. Went down to voice my displeasure with the klan and the nazis. I was considering a sheet concession. ;-)
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:23 PM
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24. I'm proud of you. It took a lot of guts to stand up to those
assholes.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:31 PM
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29. Blazing Saddles comes to mind...
Waco Kid (to Klansmen): "Oh boys, I got somethin' ta show ya!"

Waco Kid then pulls out Sheriff Bart, who is black, from behind a rock:

Bart: "Hey, where is the white wimmen at?!"

Klansmen run over to jump Bart, and are beaten and have their robes and hoods stolen....
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:10 PM
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18. how large was the protest group?
dp
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:19 PM
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21. I think there were about 15 nazis/klan guys (and gals)
and around a thousand people there to protest against them.
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brainwashed_youth Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:16 PM
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26. well, i guess
freedom of speech goes for them 2. There were only 15 there huh? Wow, even for the klan/nazis that seems kinda low
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:41 PM
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32. 15 'pro', 1000 against?? Sounds like a good ratio to me.
Good for Raleigh, not that I'm even slightly surprised. We had a similar occurance in Asheville, a few years back. The city said they couldn't prevent the march, but the public response was similar: no welcome, to say the least for the racist trash. The head kluxer (or whatever he is officially called) was so pissed he threatened to come back and "punish" us... Never did. What a waste of subhuman body parts. :puke:
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:43 PM
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33. Wonder if any of my old tormenters from high school were there?

Seems that would've been right up their alley.
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:47 PM
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34. The most scared I have ever been was when I was 11.
1966 - June - that's when the big airline strike hit, and my dad, mom and us kids were driving to Maryland from Florida for a visit with relatives. Stopped in a little "mom and pop" motel off of US1 in a little town in NC. Brother & I went "exploring" out back (really rural area) after dinner and walked right up on a klan rally. Cross and all. On fire.

We ran, literally terrified, back to the motel and told the folks. They weren't too worried, because altho they were Catholic, no one knew it in the area..............but I had nightmares for weeks.

I am so glad to see that the mores have changed and these people are held in the contempt they deserve.
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:13 PM
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37. Check your inbox
nt
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:17 AM
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39. I was really proud yesterday
Edited on Sun Feb-22-04 10:21 AM by supernova
I didn't go to the rally because I didn't know about it until the evening news.

But it makes me proud that the ratio was roughly 1 : 999 against.

:thumbsup:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 01:40 PM
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41. Glad to see the #'s of show ups at these events...
is falling.

I have fought to allow Nazi's and Klansmen express themselves under the First Amendment, but I certainly have nothing in common w/ them.

I would have been right next to you, shouting for them to go away; but ironically, I would defend their right to speak.

O8)
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