My new iPod will only work with the newest Mac OS? What a rip off!

[bif]

I hooked it up to my computer and it wouldn't recognize it. When I called Mac support they said I needed the newest version of OSX and it can't be installed on this G4. Does anyone know a way around this? I really don't want to buy a new computer right now.

[sir_captain]

1. If you have anything lying around

running Windows, it'd work with that.

[LeftyMom]

2. Get a PC!

:P

[ghostsofgiants]

10. Like I said in a previous thread, that's the non-sucker option.

:P

[Pierre.Suave]

16. Yeah, sure...

Say, is Microsoft still supporting Win 2000? how about Win ME? Win 98?

Thought not...

:eyes:

[bif]

3. I only have a Mac

[Pierre.Suave]

4. It might have something to do with

USB 2.0 versus USB 1.0

I think it is possible, depending on what exact model of computer you have to upgrade your comp to USB 2.0

[yewberry]

6. It's probably the OS.

Newer iPods don't work with anything before 10.4.11--I tried it with Panther and the computer read the new iPod as corrupted.

[yewberry]

5. I did it.

I got my husband an 8G nano and it works fine on my old Mac (old G3 blue & white with a G4 processor).

Since the G3 doesn't have a DVD reader, I took out the CD drive and stuck in an internal DVDR. Then I was able to install Tiger (OSX 10.4) and update it to 10.4.11, which will work with an 8G iPod nano. I've had no trouble at all with using the old USB, except that when I plug in the iPod, I get a message telling me that it would be faster to plug into a USB 2.0.

It really can be done. The DVDR wasn't too expensive; the Tiger software was a little hard to find.

[leeroysphitz]

38. Sounds like a breeze.

Take THAT pc users!

[Pierre.Suave]

45. And how exactly...

Would the process differ if you were trying to load Vista on an older PC that did not have a DVD drive?

[DarkTirade]

7. Any way to run a dual boot on your system with a mac OS and something else?

:shrug: Seems like a helluva lot of work just because Apple has their head up their own ass, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

[Pierre.Suave]

29. No

[DarkTirade]

41. Well somebody's a little defensive today.

[Deja Q]

8. Dude, wake up!!

Get a PC! Then you'll get used to it! In both Windows AND Linux forms! Apple has finally woken up (probably because people really aren't buying their overpriced PCs with their logo emblazoned on it.)

It's the way of the world, forced upgrades. Dude, getz with the timez!

[Pierre.Suave]

9. Hypno...

Do you purposely come into any Apple related thread to bash Apple?

[ghostsofgiants]

11. It's amusing actually...

Apple users have been doing that to Windows users on the internet for years.

[PeaceNikki]

13. It's funny cuz it's true.

[Pierre.Suave]

15. I see

the gang is here...

[ghostsofgiants]

19. Are you Steve Jobs or something?

You really seem to take deep personal offence to any criticism of Apple.

[Pierre.Suave]

23. Do you see me bashing windows?

in windows problem threads?

Nope.

[PeaceNikki]

20. Every time I post a reply in a thread in which you're involved you make that implication.

I'm in not affiliated with any "gang" but I appreciate your concern.

[Pierre.Suave]

21. Sure...

[PeaceNikki]

22. You're right, I am a Latin King.

Step off.

[Pierre.Suave]

24. HAHA

:eyes:

[PeaceNikki]

25. If you keep making that face, it'll freeze that way.

[Pierre.Suave]

26. k

[Pierre.Suave]

14. thats the...

"he hit me first" argument?

:eyes:

[ghostsofgiants]

17. No, just an observation of irony.

[Pierre.Suave]

18. no, it is indeed the

"he hit me first" argument.

[ghostsofgiants]

28. If you say so, dude.

I've got better things to do with my time than engage in petty Mac/Windows flamewars.

[TommyO]

34. I don't bash Windows users, in fact I use both

[Awsi Dooger]

35. He's been doing it for years

No one on this site is the equivalent of HypnoToad in desperation to bash Apple. In fact, when I saw this thread I would have loved to make a huge wager he'd already posted the typical rant, "Apple is overpriced, blah, blah, blah..."

Another winner. :rofl:

Meanwhile, years ago in threads like this I recommended to buy Apple stock. There was no way Steve Jobs wouldn't out think and out maneuver the PC clods. Let's see, when I made that recommendation the stock price was in the $60 range. Now it's $170.

Gas prices suck but my Apple stock keeps the vacations coming. :)

[Pierre.Suave]

36. Yeah, I like to say that Steve Jobs gave me my Macs...

Due to the fact that I bought stock back when it was around 20 a share, before the split.

[leeroysphitz]

39. Enjoy! n/t

[TommyO]

33. people aren't buying Macs?

The sales figures show differently.

In Q2 of this year, 2,289,000 Macs were sold, compared with 1,517,000 in Q207.

[Pierre.Suave]

12. Which OS are you running?

On which G4 mac?

[bif]

43. I'm running 10.3.9

And my computer is only 400MHz and the iPod needs 10.4.8. I checked it out and I need at least 800Mhz to install a newer version of the operating system.

[Pierre.Suave]

44. Sorry...

There are places to get cheaper macs than direct from Apple.

www.macconnection.com is one of them. Craigslist may work too.

edit: as others have said, Tiger 10.4 will work fine too.

[yewberry]

27. You might also consider

posting any questions here.

(Fewer people with an axe to grind.)

[Pierre.Suave]

30. Geez, thats like giving them a map...

And dropping them off at the front door...

:rofl:

The MUG is a good place.

[TommyO]

31. The tech specs are clearly stated on the iPod pages

For a Mac, here are the iPod Classic requirements:

Mac system requirements
Mac computer with USB 2.0 port
Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later
iTunes 7.6 or later5

10.4.9 isn't the latest and even the current OS will run on a G4 processor (867 Mhz or faster according to the OS X page).

"Leopard" requirements: Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) processor

[Awsi Dooger]

37. Leopard will run on older systems than the G4 867

There's a program called Leopard Assist that works wonderfully. The main catch is you need a better video card than stock for the older machines. Also more RAM, since Leopard guzzles RAM. Larger hard drive also.

[yewberry]

42. You don't even need Leopard for newer iPods.

Later Tiger updates work fine.

I've got one of these




with a G4 processor and an internal DVDR, and the iPod that I got in December is fine. 10.4.11, no problem.

[leeroysphitz]

40. "PowerPC"

LOL

[huskerlaw]

32. You don't need a new computer

Just buy a copy of the new OS and install it on your comp. The new OS is way better anyway.

And to the people telling you to get a PC...one word: VISTA. :puke:

[bif]

46. The Mac vs. PC flamewar here is pretty amusing

[Pierre.Suave]

47. And it seems to be the PC guys

doing all the flaming...

Compensating for anything guys?

[Political Heretic]

48. That would be called a flame.

[Pierre.Suave]

49. hardly

you want to see a flame, I am SURE I can come up with one...

[LanternWaste]

52. It's as bad as Pepsi vs. Coke back in the eighties.

It's as bad as Pepsi vs. Coke back in the eighties-- but with a bigger lexicon.

[dropkickpa]

50. Return iPod, tell steve jobs

to go fuck himself, and buy something more functional for less $$ that will work with any computer.

[Pierre.Suave]

51. Yeah, I am sure it is all Apples fault...

Say, do you think that the ipod will work with Windows 98?

:eyes:

[ikri]

53. You could try VMWare

VMWare Fusion for OS X

I'm not sure if it will work with your version of OS X but it might be worth a try.

Basically it allows you to run another operating system within your current OS, so you can boot up OS X then open up a virtual version of Windows or some flavour of Linux. The virtual operating system may recognize the iPod where OS X won't.

The last alternative would be a cheap sub-notebook laptop like the eee pc that will run Linux or Windows XP.

[Pierre.Suave]

54. ...

You do realize that VMWare Fusion will only run XP on a mac that has an Intel chip, right?

not an old G4...

[bif]

55. Won't work

System requirements:
Mac OS X version 10.4.9 or later

I may have figured a way around it. My daughter has a newer MacBook. I can plug the External HD into it and plug the iPod into the external via Firewire.

[papapi]

56. You can install Tiger on that machine. I got my copy of Tiger . . .

off of eBay for around $35 or $40 and installed it on my Apple Pismo notebook (G3, 500Mhz, 512Mb RAM). Then it can be updated using software update to take it up to 10.4.11 (I think that's the ending update to Tiger). It sounds like that would give you what you need to fix this.

[papapi]

57. I just looked. You can get Tiger for about $12.50 on eBay including shipping.

[bif]

58. I think it may require Leapard

10.5. I don't have the iPod with me, but the Apple site says 10.4.9, but I seem to recall it say's 10.5 on the requirements on the brochure with the iPod. And it say I need USB 2.0. Will the old USB work? And why did they get rid of Firewire?

[papapi]

59. The chart on the Apple site says 10.4.9 . . .

what model is the iPod? I just bought a new iMac G5 and it has firewire, so I don't understand the question about that. ??

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1447

[bif]

60. Here's what the technical specs say on the website...

Mac system requirements
Mac computer with USB 2.0 port
Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later
iTunes 7.6 or later5

It doesn't say anything about Firewire connectivity. I tried hooking it up to this Mac Powerbook I can bring home from work which is running 10.4.11 and it wouldn't recognize the iPod.

[papapi]

62. Bummer.

:shrug:

[bif]

63. I did some further reading

You can use the firewire to charge it but you need USB 2.0 to synch it. They're not making it easy for me.

[musette_sf]

61. i have the same problem

with my new iPod and Win2000. my work machine is Win2000. but it works okay with XP on my home machine, so all was not lost.