tell me your definition of an "overprivileged ass"

[Pierre.Suave]

I have seen that, or a variant, used quite frequently here on DU lately and it is making me think there is a lot of bitterness here regarding the Haves and the Have-Nots, more so than normal anyway.

[bicentennial_baby]

1. The only real war is the class war, homie

[Pierre.Suave]

2. Aint that the truth

Hows my fav Bi-baby tonight?

[bicentennial_baby]

5. I meant that...and I'm on the side of the have-nots...

That's just how I roll. :headbang:

I am well...Chillin, reading, researching...the usual. :)

[Pierre.Suave]

17. I know you meant it

it is inevitable.

i can not think of a war that was not brought to the Have Nots by the Haves.

[DarkTirade]

3. It all depends on context.

It can refer to money, social status, whether you're a minority or not, ect. It just depends on what kind of privilege they're talking about.

[ThomCat]

4. Unfortunately, given the growing income divide

poor and struggling people have every right to be outraged.

But I doubt that more than a few people here are truly privilaged, just based on normal income distributions. The most I would guess is that some people are doing better than others.

There is certainly no lack of insensitivity here at DU, or any lack of misunderstandings. I hope that despite that people here are able to work together towards some economic goals and politics that really do benefit everyone.

[Pierre.Suave]

11. I agree

people that are struggling due to circumstances foisted on them have every reason to be outraged.

I am outraged every minute of every day by the circumstances created by the current government.

But, I just saw someone in another thread call someone an "over privileged ass" simply because the person drove an Escalade (caddy SUV) and left their dog in the car.

Perhaps, as some new cars do nowadays, the car, even after shutdown, circulates cool air inside the car for a certain length of time after it is shut off. We certainly don't know the circumstances, and I do not think it is anywhere near enough information to make a judgment like that about a person.

[PunkinPi]

6. It is anyone not

ready to transcend "our differences" to realize our "sameness".



edit: to end my end quote

[AlCzervik]

7. that's a good question, for me someone who acts like an over privileged ass

is a person that talks about what they have and generally the cost associated with. Let me give you an example-We have a friend named Pete* and he and wife go to hotel (insert pricey hotel name here) because "It's really expensive!" so they go so they can tell people they stayed there and specifically how much it cost, i'm not sure if he's overprivileged really but since all he talks about is the stuff he owns and how much it cost imo he is an ass. My sister also falls into the same habit/trap and it's just boring.






































*Pete-his real name. :D

[Pierre.Suave]

20. That is over the top

I hate people like that.

I do know some people that are truly wealthy. The really funny thing about them is they never, or very rarely talk about it. And unless you knew them really well, you would never know. I find that the more people talk, they more likely it is they are mortgaged and financed out the ass to appear as if they are "livin the life"

[AlCzervik]

21. it's kind of sad in a way, like with my sister, it's almost as if she thinks she's good

enough because of the stuff, not quite but almost, if she just gets that sub-zero, man her life would be sweet! You know what i mean?

[Pierre.Suave]

23. Yeah I do

has she never had a time in her life that she had next to nothing and had to find happiness in something other than things, or has she just been miserable her entire life?

*not meant to offend, just a tongue in cheek way of putting it*

[AlCzervik]

33. no she never had that time in her life, we had the same parents but 2 totally different upbringings.

The only way i can explain it or make sense of our childhood is this--my parents were convinced that my dear sister hung the moon and the stars so they put there money on her to win, i was kind of the black sheep which in retrospect worked out for me, i've kind of been on my own since my Mom died when i was 17 and it made more self efficient and self reliant, don't get me wrong my husband is a truly wonderful person and i do count on him for moral and emotional support but those things are what makes me happy, him and my daughter, stuff is nice but it isn't the same as a loved one.

[Pierre.Suave]

37. No "thing" will ever replace

the touch, feel, sounds, and love you get from a loved one...

[Fran Kubelik]

63. Oh, I HATE it when people do that.

I had a boss who was always talking like that. He would come sit with us during lunch and "complain" about how much his Mercedes convertible, house in Florida, upgrades to his primary house, etc etc were costing him. He knew how much we all made. I found it to be really ugly.
Oh, and he had horrible taste. He actually bought one of those Thomas Kinkade paintings that Thomas Kinkade actually painted something on, then bragged about how much he paid for it (high 5 figures) and complained about how much it was costing him to ship it from Hawaii. :eyes:

Other people who get under my skin - people who constantly brag about their material things. Constantly. Like it defines them. Ugh.

[AlCzervik]

65. yeah, it's all they bring to the table and the sad thing is that there is probably much

more to the person than that bs but for some reason, maybe some inferiority complex, they can't get past the stuff. It's like my sister, guess what, if she had nothing i'd love her and i've tried to let her know that but i don't it's sunk in that she has value as a person. As for Pete, his wife is just as bad if not worse.

[LeftyMom]

8. It's hard not to resent people reveling in waste when you're busting your ass and not getting by.

:shrug:

[bicentennial_baby]

9. C'est exact...

:thumbsup:

[LeftyMom]

13. Anyhow, the whole idea that we shouldn't is bullshit.

The system in this country is built in such a way that the few get rich on the backs of the many. There's no virtue in pretending it's not a scam.

[bicentennial_baby]

19. I wholly agree...I'm one of those Radical Econ people...

:evilgrin:

Neoclassical Econ is for suckers. I just read a great piece on Burma and how the situation there is reflective in many ways of the global situation, and the inability of the Dem candidates to speak up about the obscene inequality in wealth distribution, both internationally and domestically. I would post it, but...I don't think many on DU would appreciate it. Not moderate enough. :P

:hi:

[LeftyMom]

is it online?

linkie?

[bicentennial_baby]

30. Actually, there were two articles, equally good:

If these links don't work (I'm a member and not sure if they work for non-members), PM me, and I'll send them to you in Word Docs. Great reads.

Burma:

http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/17853

Race, Gender, and Class in the Dem Primary:

http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/17843

Let me know what you think! :)

[LeftyMom]

35. The links work.

I'll read them later, LK's got a loose tooth right now, and every few minutes he wiggles it a bit too far, hurts himself and wants attention. :eyes:

[AlCzervik]

50. thanks for posting those links, both very good reads.

[bicentennial_baby]

52. Yay! Glad you liked!

:)

I love ZNet... :hi:

[AlCzervik]

54. i just bookmarked that site, there is a lot of good stuff i need to look at there.

:thumbsup: :loveya:

[bicentennial_baby]

58. It's really quite good...

I used to be a monthly donator, just signed up again. For as little as $3/month, you get a lot of access. :)

:loveya:

[AlCzervik]

59. that's it, $3? I can do that.

[bicentennial_baby]

61. Here's the page that shows you what you get at each level:

https://www.zcommunications.org/zsustainers/signup

I'm the $5/month level. :)

[Pierre.Suave]

26. I would read it

If you happen to have a link.

[bicentennial_baby]

31. Check my latest reply to LeftyMom...

Not for the Haves though! Danger!


:P

[Pierre.Suave]

32. What are you suggesting?

:rofl:

[Pierre.Suave]

29. You need to get with the program

and start acting like an economist...

We know where you are, we will get to you, you can not hide from the Economist Collective.

:P

[bicentennial_baby]

34. My collective is radical...

And, I can still spit Econ graphs like the baddest MC....so there!

:D

[malta blue]

10. the hs classmate of mine who posted a link to a

13k / week vacation rental asking who was interested... :nuke:

[Pierre.Suave]

14. Did you reply back

only if you are paying?

I would have, put him on the spot to either look like an even bigger ass, or man up and pay the tab...

:rofl:

[malta blue]

18. nah - I will forever be the *poor* chick from

boarding school - but that's okay ... :D

But maybe aI should reply back about her picking up the tab.... :evilgrin:

[Hippo_Tron]

25. Wait 13,000 per week?

Is this vacation rental on the moon?

[Pierre.Suave]

27. ROFL

Good one.

[malta blue]

28. nope - Mass....

:shrug:

http://www.vrbo.com/100476

[bicentennial_baby]

36. Lenox...that explains it

Completely.

:)

[malta blue]

38. but 13k???

seriously, who needs a f***ing acoustically designed music room in a vacation rental if they are NOT musicians?

My cousins weekend in Becket and they aren't 13k/week jerks...

[bicentennial_baby]

41. Some places in the Berkshires are crazy like that...b/c...

they can be. Supply and Demand. Gross, but true. Southern W. MA is full of crap like that.

[malta blue]

43. You are right I'm sure....

My brother does a rental in the 'shires for the winter so he can ski - but me, I just did my boarding school and fled. I went to Miss Hall's School in Pittsfield - ergo the "overprivileged ass" is my HS classmate....

[Hippo_Tron]

46. Damn, and especially overprivileged asses if they're only putting 16-20 people in there

If I rented that place (not that I ever would) I would put about 45-50 people in there crashing on sleeping bags, couches, and sharing beds. With 50 people it would be about 260 per person for the week which is certainly cheaper than a hotel room for a week. But seriously, I can't fathom why anyone would dish out the money for a place that nice when you're just going there for a week and you're going to trash it anyway.

[malta blue]

48. Let's plan a western MA DU meetup there....

That'll learn 'em.

:rofl:

[harmonicon]

68. like my friend...

who, after grad school, moved to Berlin for a year, and asked me to come. I explained that I couldn't just move to Berlin, because doing that would cost money, especially since I wouldn't be able to live there legally. He had suggested me moving to Berlin as an alternative to moving back in with my parents and getting a job.

Or my other friend who, when my car was broken down and I was looking for new (used) cars, suggested that I get a BMW, because that's what she drives, and it's a really nice car.

[mak3cats]

12. This is easy: GEORGE W. BUSH

If he would have been the child of a middle-class family, he'd be the family embarassment. He's failed at everything he's ever done, but his rich Daddy kept bailing him out and finding him new jobs. It makes me sick to my stomach!

[Pierre.Suave]

16. I agree

he is a failure. It makes me seriously consider leaving this country.

[Fox Mulder]

15. George W. Bush.

[KamaAina]

22. Whoa! Cosmic! I was completely unaware of this phenomenon, yet...

...I used the closely related phrase "overprivileged asshats" just today!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7803941&mesg_id=7804073

Context: Someone who drives a Cadillac Escalade and leaves his/her dog inside it in the hot sun with the windows rolled up. :grr:

[Pierre.Suave]

24. Maybe...

My car, even after being turned off, circulates cold, AC through teh cabin for some length of time. We do not know if that was the case here. My point was that making that snap judgement is not based on facts, but biases.

I found it interesting.

I am not calling anyone out.

[Zuiderelle]

40. I'm with you, KamaAina. Anyone leaving a dog in a car, no matter whether it's equipped to continue

circulating air or not, is an asshole.

Not sure if they are over-privileged, but they most certainly are assholes.

[Pierre.Suave]

44. SO, you never leave your dog alone?

Anywhere, Anytime?

[Zuiderelle]

47. Was that car closed? What was the temperature? Even if you think it is only for a minute...

what if something happens to you to delay your return? Is it worth risking the life of your dog?

[Pierre.Suave]

51. I dont know all the circumstances of this incident

but I have left my dog in the car once, and only once and it was only for a few minutes, and I was also never out of sight of him or the car. I even left it running so the AC was left on. I was picking up new tires and wheels and he liked to run around and come back on his own terms. I did not have time for that and he also loved going for car rides.

I don't think I did anything cruel, and in fact got one of the greatest pictures of him ever during the event.

There will always be events outside our control, but the likelihood of something so horrible happening it would keep me from getting back to the car are infinitesimally minimal.

[Zuiderelle]

53. Sounds like you try to treat your dog well.

Good for you.

[Pierre.Suave]

56. I am going to ignore the sublte sarcasm there

and just say that yes, I treated him very well.

Even to the point of realizing I no longer had the time to properly care for him which led me to give him to someone else that did and would treat him just as well as I did.

[Zuiderelle]

60. Sarcasm?

I said that you treated your dog well. But if you want to read something into that, ok, I give up.

[Pierre.Suave]

69. Well given your track record

It was logical to surmise, I apologize if that was not your intent.

[bicentennial_baby]

49. I never left my dog alone in the car, ever...

Whether we were on our way to/from the Vet or the river...Never. If I needed to go somewhere, I'd take him home first, or do it before I took him out. That's just me though.

[harmonicon]

70. that's good of you

Because I know your dog, and if you left that bastard alone in the car for a minute, he'd hotwire that fucker and joyride around town all day, drinkin' mickey's and picking up bitches.

[bicentennial_baby]

71. ...

:rofl:

[Pierre.Suave]

72. ROFL

Fucking AWESOME!!!!!!

:rofl:

[leftofthedial]

39. the ONLY issue of our times is the class war

and the wealthy have kicked our asses

it is destroying us and the planet.

[bicentennial_baby]

42. Solidarity

:toast:

To quote John Galbraith:

Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding.

:)

[leftofthedial]

45. sweet, and deadly accurate, quote.

:toast:

[YDogg]

55. i'm having visions of hidden towels

;-)

[Pierre.Suave]

57. What?

Please explain.

[YDogg]

62. !!! A cute blonde girl just ran into my room, sans clothes looking for a towel!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=7798087

[Pierre.Suave]

64. SO you think this thread is a prank?

[YDogg]

66. who knows what to think in the lounge?

:shrug:

sorry

[Pierre.Suave]

73. True

I do it too sometimes.

no harm.

[graywarrior]

67. Eat the rich

then spit 'em out with vengeance.

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

74. My definition: George W. Bush

[CreekDog]

75. what was that in the new Indiana Jones movie...

"my dad said never to listen to someone whose ass was bigger than their shoulders". :rofl:

no offense, but it's kind of funny. he said ass. :rofl:

[Left Is Write]

76. "George W. Bush"

ETA: Clearly this was not an original answer. It still stands, though.