I confess! I have an incredible crush on Rachel Maddow.

[Lil Missy]

Isn't she da bomb!

:loveya:

[mcctatas]

1. Hell, I'm straight and I have a crush on Rachel Maddow...

Smart, funny, easy on the eyes, what's not to love? :toast:

[Lil Missy]

2. Easy on the eyes? She's adorable!

Very smart, on top of things, and always on the mark.

*sigh*

[TommyO]

35. I'm a gay man, and I have a crush on Rachel Maddow!

[ChuckToddFacts]

3. ChuckToddFact.com

I love her too and usually agree with her on most topics. I love to see her and Morning Joe tangle when they are on Race to the White House together. LOL

She needs a wardrobe makeover though. She wears that black jacket with the white stitching WAY too much.

[uppityperson]

4. Suggestion for you, put something other than your website in subject line.

It will not be so apparent you are pushing it then. Having it in your sig line is enough. Just a thought.

[ChuckToddFacts]

5. something clever here

I tried to leave it blank, but it won't let me (like I can on other forums).

Thanks. I'll try from now on. It sure is a lot easier to use the same thing over and over though.

[uppityperson]

7. I find observation is helpful.

What other forums?

[Lil Missy]

6. Did you see the program where she tore Joe a new asshole, ..

and he got pissed and tore off his microphone and left during the commercial? I saw that, but can't recall what program that was.

I do recall that I was delighted about her handing him his ass on a plate, and he could not handle it, LOL!

[Rhiannon12866]

52. I think that was on "Race for the White House," with David Gregory.

We were hoping that Rachel would take over that timeslot, and she still may... It does appear that they've made up, since I've seen them together since and they were friendly, but that sure was one for the books...:D

[Radio_Lady]

8. Yes, this is my birthday and I'm 69... and I love Rachel Maddow.

However, I do have a small problem with her. Agree that she would look just a little less drab if she chose some lighter colors and a tiny bit more face makeup and color on her lips.





I know that she is gay and appears to be more "butch" than "lipstick lesbian" -- not a terrible look, but kind of harsh in high definition. She also has a couple of dark spots on her neck which could be covered by make-up. Does she wear earrings or any jewelry? I think Ellen DeGeneres has less of a problem because her blonde hair and blue eyes -- and the light colors she wears -- always look nice. And the woman she wants to marry on Bush's ranch? Wow, she is beaming!

[Lil Missy]

9. I wouldn't even recognize her from those pics!

I think she looks mighty fine right now.

And yes, I do know she is gay. :D

[LeftyMom]

10. She's adorable as she is.

Lots of women, of all orientations, just aren't especially girly looking, just like some men aren't especially macho. Trying to glam her up would be silly. There are so many interchangably beautiful newsreaders of no particular talent, it's nice to see somebody who's on the show first and foremost for her brains, yet still looks great in a realistic and approachable way.

FWIW, she looks fine on a 65" HD set. Some of the more plastic newsreaders and actors, OTOH, look like creations of Dr. Frankenstein.

[Lil Missy]

13. I really like your comments, LM.

I place a lot more emphasis on intelligence, brains, and personality, and not so much on a fem or a "girly girl". I do sort of gravitate to the "tweeners", some college education, and I WILL NOT KISS a republican!

And now that I think about it, they must also be animal lovers too.

[Radio_Lady]

20. Sorry, but I softly disagree with you. But let it be.

She is an attractive woman, and a wonderful speaker, with a brilliant mind. She possesses smooth skin, great hair, and a fabulous wit.

Lefty Mom, I don't want to fight. I wasn't looking for feminine glamour, or to make her look "dumbed down" -- or even to mention this. It was just something I was thinking the last couple of times I saw her.

Peace, love and happiness,

Radio Lady in Oregon (Today is my 69th birthday, and I'm not dwelling on anything except having fun.)

[Dogtown]

53. Have a great b'day, Radio_Lady

:party: :bounce: :party:

[Radio_Lady]

55. Hi Dogtown! It was wonderful! Thanks for your kind message today!

I made a couple of telephone calls to my 1st cousin, Evan, born on June 1, who is planning on driving out here from Philadelphia in September 2008.

Also, I called a woman I worked with in Massachusetts more than a decade ago. She now spends summers in Maine and winters in Cape Coral, Florida. Born on 6/01/30! She told me she was 77 and I laughed! I had to tell her their is information on the Internet that she was born in 1930... but doesn't use the Internet herself. She seemed amazed that I could pull up that information so quickly, and added, "I don't even know where I put my birth certificate."

She and her husband are well and enjoying their retirement. I haven't spoken with her since my mother passed away in 1991, but the conversation didn't lag for a minute. What a joy!

[Lex]

21. Thanks for that. I can't believe how incredibly condescending

people are when commenting about how a woman would look 'nicer' in their eyes if she did this or that to themselves.

F*ck that noise.

[libnnc]

23. comments like those upthread are like fingernails on a chalkboard to me

it's like listening to my mother on a continuous loop.

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Rachel is fucking hawt as is. Speaking as a gal with short hair and who wears little to no make-up, there's a TON of power in that I think. That's why I gravitate towards her. She empowers me.

[Radio_Lady]

30. Unfortunately, TV and motion pictures require something extra.

This is not a POWER THING or a lesbian or a beauty thing or even a choice... it is a fact that motion pictures and television really require both men AND women to wear makeup.

If you are not into it, fine. Walk around with your natural face, but please don't make it a FEDERAL case out of this and tell me how HAWT she looks. In those two pictures, she looks like a young boy to me.

Sorry, kiddo, I'm not your mother. My stepkids don't wear makeup -- they're in their forties now. Furthermore, for a very long time, they didn't shave their armpits or legs.

I'm from a different generation. I was "seduced by Max Factor" at a young age and I admit it. It's a choice if you're just a woman walking around without make-up, who cares? However, scrutiny by a camera turns it into a much different thing.

Thanks for listening.

Peace, love and happiness,

Radio Lady in Oregon

[libnnc]

37. if you've ever seen her on MSNBC, Radio Lady

you would know that she does wear make up. The pictures you chose were Air America Radio pics that don't have anything to do with her appearances on MSNBC.


But you know that. You were just trying to stir up crap like you always do.

Nothing new for the drama queen. :eyes:

Peace love and sugarplums...

[Radio_Lady]

56. White flag of truce acceptable to you this morning? I hope so! Thanks.

[sammythecat]

31. I think it was more of an idle, conversational observation

rather than an incredible condescension. Just harmless "lunch table" talk that wasn't meant to rile anyone up.

[Lex]

36. Yeah, I've had people say the same thing about racial and homophobic

"jokes"--that they weren't meant to rile anyone up, just 'talking', no harm meant, we should loosen up.

Sorry, no sale on that.

[sammythecat]

41. "...we should loosen up". Yes, and a little more fiber in your diet

would no doubt make you less cranky.

"... and I love Rachel Maddow. However, I do have a small problem with her. Agree that she would look just a little less drab if she chose some lighter colors and a tiny bit more face makeup and color on her lips." THIS is what has you incensed.

Radio_Lady said, "...I love Rachel Maddow", and then she proceeded to voice a thought that perhaps Rachel would look even better if she made some subtle changes to her on-air makeup. How DARE she even think such thoughts, let alone actually print them on DU! Right? I mean, as you said, "I can't believe how incredibly condescending people are when commenting about how a woman would look 'nicer' in their eyes if she did this or that to themselves ." How ridiculous can we get here?

I think Shirley Manson is hot. OK? So far, so good. Now, pay attention to this next thing I'm going to say about this woman I "claim" to think is hot. Brace yourself, cause here it comes: I think Shirley Manson looked NOT hot as a blond, and I was glad when she dropped that look. Incredibly condescending, aren't I? How dare I comment on the appearance of a celebrity. How "incredibly condescending".

I don't come here to DU looking to get pissed off. I come here looking for some reassuring sanity, but lately I'm really starting to get fed up with all the absurd over-sensitivity that seems to be on the increase around here. This utter nonsense is a good example of what I mean. You even managed to make some kind of fucking weird association with racism and homophobia for Christ's sake.

I didn't say Rachel Maddow would look better with lipstick but, if I did, I now know that would be incredibly condescending to you. Knowing that makes me wonder what you'd call it if I suggested that the impacted cranks around here are in dire need of a big enema followed by a daily regimen of Metamucil. Would that be like a "murerous statement" or something?

Metamucil is a safe and effective fiber supplement that will make you feel more comfortable and relaxed. When you're comfortable and relaxed comments about Rachel's and Shirley's lipstick and hair color won't make your blood boil. Don't worry, it won't make you some kind of spaced out zombie. You'll still be able to get upset about things that matter. It'll just help keep you from getting upset about things that don't fucking matter at all. You'll understand what is "incredibly condescending" and what isn't. For example, what Radio_Lady said isn't. What I'm saying to you is. And yes, you and quite a few others "should loosen up". This kind of overbearing and stupid political correctness is a symptom of the same disease that makes right wingers consider any criticism of the administration to be unpatriotic and un-american. It's stupid and it's despicable, and I'm sick of it.

[Lex]

45. Meh.

A whole lot of nothing in that diatribe.

[sammythecat]

46. It's the truth and you can't respond. Right?

It's all about your diatribe over NOTHING. You got your panty in a wad over an innocuous comment as I suspect you often do. That's the truth too, isn't it?

Please respond. I'm in the mood.

[Lex]

48. lol

find someone else who might feel like working up some interest in your 'mood'

buzz off

[sammythecat]

63. Hell, you're pissed and we both know it.

You just don't have any response. You'd just love to put me down, but you can't. If you could, you would. You're frustrated and you deserve it. I don't like what you did.

You can blindside someone with an ugly and completely unwarranted attack, but you can't deal with it when someone points out your mean-spiritedness. Typical bully.

I'd like to suggest you look up the definitions of the words "incredibly" and "condescending" so you can use them appropriately next time you want to crap on someone.

I'll buzz off now. If you want the last word you can have it. Use a PM and we can let the thread die.

[Radio_Lady]

60. Hey folks! I use Konsyl psyllium myself! Great product! Good to go!

Mix it with juice or water and your GOOD to GO!

[Lil Missy]

50. Hey?? sammythecat and Lex? Could you both do me a favor?

Please do not turn my innocent and innocuous thread about a woman crush into a flame war.

Please? And thank you.

[Lex]

54. I'm pretty sure we were long done, dear.

But thanks! :hi:

[Radio_Lady]

58. Truce! Truce! Truce! I really based my comments on the MSNBC photos and LOVE RACHEL!!!

[sammythecat]

64. Sorry. I just added to it again without thinking and I shouldn't have.

I do apologize to you, but I felt what I responded to deserved a response and I don't regret responding. I am sorry though that your thread got hijacked.

[Radio_Lady]

57. Hi, Sammythecat. Certainly that was in the spirit of the moment. Thanks!

[XOEnterprises]

25. I think she's pretty as is.

And I personally don't understand what butch and femme have to do with it. I do understand that most masculine leaning lesbians tend not to wear makeup, but I don't think you can judge based just on that. My girlfriend, if we had to pick genders, would be the "male" and I would be the "female," but she's far more likely to wear any sort of makeup, mostly because she's far more vain and particular about how she looks. I'm not a slob by any means, but I've never "got" the whole appeal of cosmetics, and I'm far more laid back and casual than she is.

However, I would guess that Maddow wears, at the very least, a bit of concealer on camera. Even male stars get "made up" before being on a show, even if it is a bare minimum.

[Radio_Lady]

61. What is REALLY important is that her diction and vocabulary are fantastic!

She's LIBERAL and ASSERTIVE. She has NO REGIONALISMS. I could listen to her for hours.

Frankly, I'm not here to judge anyone on the outside. However, there is JUST NO WAY at the Democratic Underground to prove to people that what you feel on the inside -- and do in your REAL LIFE -- is more important than what you say on this site.

I've been wearing make-up for decades. I started out on television in 1957. I had acne pretty bad, but covered it up with Max Factor pancake makeup. I was very sensitive to how my skin looked for the black and white, Image Orthicon cameras. It was an era when women wore much heavier makeup. At that time, the only gay woman I knew was one of my high school friends, whose family I practically joined when I was left alone in the afternoon.
Last time I visited with her in New England, she and her SO were so happy and had been living together for decades.

All I knew at the time was that Gretchen was very athletic, excelled at everything she did academically and in sports, wore her hair short, and never used makeup. I found out later that she was gay, as was her younger brother. Regrettably, her brother jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge years ago, probably impelled by his disaffection with society's acceptance. It hit her family very hard.

There is NO HOMOPHOBIA here. I believe that sexual identity is inborn. I have had dozens of gay and lesbian guests on my radio program. I frequently argue their case with my conservative friends. Just met a gay couple right down the street (due to an email through our homeowners' association regarding placement of a foreigh student for next year). One of them is going to give me a bid on painting my downstairs bathroom.

Not only did I work in television and theater, but then moved on to call on male and female hairdressers in Boston for almost ten years. But how can I get you to believe me and stop calling people these awful names and implying there is some prejudice? It's just my opinion, that's all.

Peace, love and happiness, (Our sign-off on the Miami, Florida children's show which ran from 1957 to 1979. I was on at the beginning when there were only MEN on the air. Both sexes wore short hair and lots of makeup. There was only one other woman on that station at the time, Jackie Pierce, who did a homemaking show.)

First job at WTVJ (1957-1958)



Second job as first woman talk show host with a full-time call in program in Boston.
Frankly, I think I have a face for radio!


We come to the present experience with our past experience.

RL

[CTyankee]

68. Happy birthday, Radio Lady! I will be 69 in September, so we are contemporaries.

I like Rachel also and I think she is actually very beautiful. The contours of her face are lovely. Her short haircut is actually very graceful.

She does seem to have monochromatic clothes. I can't understand why a little color wouldn't be in order, tho.

I think her skin is fabulous. It looks translucent to me, quite beautiful.

[khashka]

11. Who doesn't?

Pity she'd never date me.

Khash.

[Lil Missy]

14. Hey! You queer!

:D

She's gay, and so am I! So I've got dibs!

You rascal!


:loveya:

[khashka]

19. I'm gay too!

But I have a penis and facial hair, so I guess you win, damn it!

Nobody knows I'm a lesbian. sigh.

Khash.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

65. I'm not gay...

And if Rachel weren't a lesbian, why then, one night with me...

...and then she'd probably be a lesbian. I have that effect on women.

House pets, too.

[Awsi Dooger]

12. She needs her own program on MSNBC

Rachel is very talented but right now she's also incredibly overrated. I realize no one else shares that view but this is a slanted message board. On a network program to survive and be respected for years you need a threat of balance and right now Rachel is woefully lacking.

In that program where she supposedly destroyed Scarborough, he actually was rightfully dismissive of her because Rachel spent the early portions of that show insisting Democrats were destroying their chances in the fall, her familiar fearful blather. Scarborough understands the big picture and he ridiculed Rachel for her over reactive focus, emphasizing that Bush's approval ratings and Iraq and the economy, etc. were far more November relevant than a couple extra months of a primary battle.

Rachel was so stunned that her simpleton "McCain is the beneficiary, blah, blah, blah" angle was being challenged that she was determined to load up on Scarborough later on. You could see the look on her face. That's all that happened. She's used to going unchallenged on partisan radio but on balanced TV it's a different game. It's the most ineptly analyzed segment in recent TV history.

Once she gets her own show and realizes she doesn't have to tilt every second of every show toward the far left viewpoint, and in fact she'll be less effective if she does, Rachel will improve markedly.

[Lil Missy]

15. Thanks for your response, but I'm not bringing GD Poop into the lounge.

:hi:

[SeattleGirl]

16. So do I!

A BIG girl crush on her!

She's smart, she's funny, and she's cute as hell (with or without her "television machine" face on).

:loveya:

[blondie58]

17. I do, too and I'm straight!

she is amazing!

[chknltl]

18. She is indeed! I too have a crush on her!

To be honest, I wish she were my friend or my girl-friend or my wife or my sister or my neighbor or....well I just REALLY REALLY wish I knew her in person. That BRILLIANT mind, that biting wit and those two tiny moles on the side of her silky smooth neck... This woman is the whole package and a lot more!

If I have a single criticism: She sometimes wears a dark jacket live on Kieth Olbermann with what appears to be white stitching or embroidery on the collar...it looks sooooo K-Marche'! I have no issue with K-Mart but this jacket looks so damned tacky on my goddess Rachel.

It appears that her TV career may be taking off...I hope it grows, I hope she gets her own show someday. I believe she is talented enough to make the jump from radio to the small screen but then, I may be a bit biased.

[Lindsey]

22. I adore her and I'm gay. She's smark, extremely cute, and has an

incredible personality. I also have a major crush on her!

[libnnc]

24. I agree with you about that jacket

She needs to stick to the snazzy pinstripes. Although I prefer her in her natural couture.

Jeans and a tee-shirt. :loveya:

[Lil Missy]

27. I've never noticed the dark jacket you are referring to.

I'll make a special effort to look for it.

I guess I've always been focused on her face and personality, and "crushing" on her. :)

[I Have A Dream]

26. She seems as though she's a genuinely nice person.

Rare these days! :loveya:

[Benfea]

28. If I were female and gay....

...I would have a ladycrush on Rachel. A severe ladycrush.

[Benfea]

29. However, since I'm straight and male....

...what I really want is to go out and share a few beers with her. You know, hang out and yap.

[Lil Missy]

32. I could "hang out and yap", or go for dinner and conversation too.

But I sure wouldn't mind if she ate crackers in my bed, if ya know what I mean.

[FloridaJudy]

39. I'm female and straight

And I have a crush on her! I think she's great just the way she is: it's so refreshing to have a real woman up there commenting on the news, instead of the bleached-and-blow-dried clones most of the MSM try to foist on us.

[Wetzelbill]

33. she's hot

I would like to get her to switch sides. :) But I think I have a better shot at getting the Dem nomination this year.

[Lil Missy]

34. LOL! I hear ya buddy.

:)

Just take comfort in the fact that I have just about the same chance as you do. *sigh*

[Wetzelbill]

38. I wouldn't go that far

She'd be missing out if she didn't give you a shot. :)

[Shakespeare]

40. Hell, I have a crush on half of MSNBC's political lineup.

Girl crushes on Rachel and Norah O'Donnell, and a full-on geek crush on Chuck Todd. And Keith. There's always Keith, too.

[avenger64]

42. Laurie Duhe, from Fox ...

... I figure I'm the man to bring her over to our side.

[Radio_Lady]

67. Duh! It is an odd spelling DHUE. She left Fox news in March 2008. Here's the information:

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/laurie_dhue_leaves_fnc_79981.asp

I have no idea where she is now.

UPDATE: What happened? Avenger64 is TSed! Without even a kiss for goodbye? Buh-bye!

[styersc]

43. I was with you all of the way until she became Limbaugh-esque

in hern open hatred of Hillary.

Politics has eased my crush.

[Brigid]

44. I have a girl crush on Lena Olin.

But since neither of us is gay, nothin' happening there.

[billyoc]

47. Oh, well who DOESN'T?

:loveya:

[Lil Missy]

49. Back off! She's mine!

:o

[Rhiannon12866]

51. I don't exactly have a crush on Rachel, LOL, but I agree that she's the best on the air...

She is not only intelligent, with a knowledge and understanding of what's going on in this country, but she presents it all with such clarity. We listen to her Air America radio show and pay attention whenever she's on KO or Dan Abrams. It's just a matter of time before she has her own show on MSNBC...:-)

[SoxFan]

59. She's an ass-kicking commentator

But telecrush material? Nope. That's still reserved for Emily De Ravin and Gillian Anderson!

[Radio_Lady]

62. ... I love her for her mind, ideas, laugh and her smile. I would love to spend time with her.

Is that a crush?

Signed,

RL Thrice-married, straight, 69 year old female who has never had a homosexual experience, but wonders what it would be like, especially when my husband is being a REAL jerk.

There was this one gal in Boston... while we were having a beer after work, I told her I'd always loved blondes with blue eyes, male or female. If I had had any urges towards women, it would be to someone who was like her. Then, we both went home to our male companions.

[unpossibles]

66. I do too!

It started just from listening to her way before I saw her.

[Lil Missy]

69. She looked pretty damned good tonight!

She was obviously wearing makeup, but even without it she is A-1 in my book!

[TaffyMoon]

70. No Crush - But She Is A Wonderful Commentator

smart, funny and with loads of star quality