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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:28 PM
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I need some input on a work situation.
There is a women I work with that is a pain in the butt. Luckily I don't have to deal with her too much and she is my subordinate (I hate that word). Well one of my favorite coworkers is leaving in March :cry: and this women has applied for her job. If she gets it I will have to work with her more directly and more often and I know it will not be enjoyable. The problem I have with her now is when ever you ask her to do anything she slams around, pouts and has a very negative attitude. Most of the people I work with feel the same way about her work and attitude.
I get along well with my boss who would be involved with the decision of whether to give her the promotion or not. I'm kinda wimpy and I'm not sure if I should talk to my boss about these issues or not.
Tell me what you think.
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mastein Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:30 PM
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1. Discuss this with your boss
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 04:32 PM by mastein
Comportment and professionalism are legitimate reasons for offering or not offering someone a job or promotion. Remember an unknown devil may be worse than a known one though.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:32 PM
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2. Do you ever have to fill out employee evaluations of subordinates?
If so, you need to be honest. If not, you need to voice your concerns to your boss, as long as you have professional and not personal reasons for not liking her.

Is there a decent sized employee pool from which your boss can promote?

Seriously, I would voice my concerns, especially if you can do it in a way that isn't snipey and self-serving.
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:40 PM
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7. It is professional not personal, I actually like her outside of work
Of course that makes it even harder.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:10 PM
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12. Eeessh. that does complicate it.
Still, it is about her professional performance, and you have the right to discuss it with your boss, as her boss.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:33 PM
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3. During the decision process ...
tell you're boss that feel this person isn't qualified for the position *at this time* and refer someone else.

This implies that the person has the skills, but you feel that they need more time on the job before she could handle the position properly.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:34 PM
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4. If you are dishonest by omission about this employee's behaviour
You are doing a disservice to the company.
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Noon_Blue_Apples Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:38 PM
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5. if you are not honest with your superior

then you are not doing your job and are letting him/her down.

No exaggerations are required.

If what you state is corroborated by others he/she will have this opinion reinforced.

What if she gets the position then fails because of this trait but you said nothing?

You are giving a professional opinion, it is not personal

B
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:40 PM
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6. That's a good question. ....
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 04:41 PM by meti57b
One thing I might mention, .. if you bring up the subject of her attitude to your boss and mention that she is difficult to work with, ... your boss may likely interpret that as you are not up to the job of working with this difficult person. It's an important job skill to be able to work with everyone. You may have to just hope that your boss asks your opinion on this.

There may be bonus points for your willingness to work with a difficult person, who would be hard to place in another job.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:42 PM
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8. Is there someone else you could recommend?
If so, push that person. If not, suggest an outside search. Without coming right out and saying it, you may be able to get the thought across that this gal is not right for the job. If you do get stuck with her, sit her down on the first day and tell her what you expect from her and that you don't tolerate huffing and puffing. After all, you've got to be a boss...and your life will be easier. I always found that things went better with my staff if they knew exactly what I expected from them and exactly what I would not tolerate. Good luck!
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:54 PM
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9. This is a BIG dilemma. I know from experience.
Because it's hard to get people fired. No one wants the attendent lawsuit, or whatever. But here's the thing: Does your boss trust your judgment? If so, you should not hesitate to tell him/her what you think. If your boss doesn't trust you---well, why not? It should count in your favor that this person is a friend to you outside of work. So it's not a personal thing. As Michael Corleone said, "It's just business." Decisions have to be made. And presumably your boss, even more than you, needs to do what's best for the organization. Your having to work with someone you think is BAD for the organization---who does that help? It only helps the person you might be promoting. But it sounds like she doesn't deserve it. Listen, there's no room for a person with a bad attitude in business. If she's so pissed about her job, let her go find a gig that makes her happy. It's not your job to do so. It's your job to find someone you can work with happily---someone you can count on. To my way of thinking, and based on what you've said, this is a no-brainer. Good luck.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 05:06 PM
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10. Don't perpetuate the "Peter Principle"
The only reason I would think this woman would get the job is if she was the only applicant.
Pouting, slamming stuff around, and being negative are NOT qualities that get you promoted, unless your company rewards incompetence with promotions (The Peter Principle).

Tell your boss. If you don't, and they found out for themselves what you should have passed up the chain (it's NOT "tattling"!) then the boss is gonna be pissed at you (" Why didn't you tell me she was 'Miss merry sunshine'???")
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 05:42 PM
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11. I could come over to your work place and kick her ass
I'm free tomorrow afternoon. :7
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