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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:59 PM
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Men, do you agree with this advice from a dying man to his daughter?
paraphasing here:

"...about boys, do not listen to a thing they say but, watch what they do."
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:00 PM
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1. Sorry, sounds like trite bullshit to me.
Simplistic, too. (Look that word up in the dictionary, if you would; it does NOT mean "simple.")

Redstone
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:06 PM
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2. ok, thanks.
no need to look it up. Did not know that I appeared to be so ignorant to you. Good to know, my friend.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:09 PM
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4. I wasn't trying to be mean, or to insult you.
I was just giving you the opinion you asked for.

Redstone
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:14 PM
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8. you know what Redstone,
no big deal.

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:30 PM
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16. Oh, good. I wouldn't want to have said anything
that would get you upset (no sarcasm here).

I'm tired.

Redstone
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:42 PM
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18. I must admit...it threw me for a second
but, I am tired and in pain, and I knew you meant well. :pals:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:43 PM
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19. I know from tired and in pain, believe me.
Redstone
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:07 PM
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3. I prefer Burroughs' advice, useful to anyone:
"Son, never listen to a priest or a policeman... The only thing they have is the key to the shithouse."
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:12 PM
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5. personally,
I like to listen and watch. If their actions don't correspond with their language...then, it is time for me to split the scene.

No sense wasting my time listening to the talk if they aren't walking the walk.



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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:12 PM
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6. Actions actually do speak louder than words
But it isn't gender specific.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:15 PM
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9. agreed ---
very much. This was/is a specific situation to which I am referring.
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:12 PM
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7. I believe actions speak louder than words
you can promise the moon
you or him....

if either of you do nothing to follow through.....

what is the point..
the words are worthless


sorry Redstone
the first time i have disagreed with you......


You can say what ever you want....

it's what you do after all is said and done...

this goes for females to......

actions.....

:hug:



lost


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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:17 PM
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10. you may want to actually respond to Redstone
I think you meant the post for him.

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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:21 PM
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13. well I meant
it for both of you


I don't agree with him
but I agree with the words of the father
so I was responding to you..


:hug:


lost

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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:23 PM
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14. oh...
just wanted to make sure ...and thanks for the hug.

Don't get enough of those lately :hug:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:17 PM
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11. I agree with that wholeheartedly.
One's words are irrelevant, unless they actually match what one does.

And what one does says 900 million percent more about a person's character than what one says.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:19 PM
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12. most assuredly.
Of course the best of both worlds is for the words and actions to match.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:27 PM
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15. "do not listen to a thing they say"
yeah, that's real good advice. Not.

Ignore everything they say?

Yeah, that'll lead to a real nice relationship full of mature commmunication skills.

Instead of dead people telling you advice, I'd say just follow your gut instincts.

RL
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:34 PM
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17. please note ...
I PARAPHRASED....

still trying to locate the actual quote.

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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:10 AM
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20. Fairly famous man has said this recently.
He is losing the battle with pancreatic cancer. I wish I could find the direct quote. He relates it back to his single days.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:37 PM
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31. It's Randy Pausch.
He's the Carnegie Mellon computer science professor who gave what the university calls "The Last Lecture" -- part of a series, but in Pausch's case closer to really being the last, since he has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.

The blogosphere, YouTube, and television (Oprah, ABC News, etc.) have been sharing the transcript and videos of RP for months and discussing it ad infinitum.

A book version of The Last Lecture was just published and
is selling a bazillion copies.

As for the quote, you're probably going to have to find it in a transcript or YouTube, but it's some variation of "Ignore what people say, and focus on what they do."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/the_inspirational_randy_pausch.html

I'd say that while I understand that that's just a rewording of "Actions speak louder than words," words do very much matter in relationships, and moreover they can be red flags in many cases. I could cite real-life examples, but you probably all have your own.

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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:43 AM
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33. Bingo!!
We have a winner.

All I could find was the transcript.

Yes, the best possible scenario is that words and actions agree.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:21 AM
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21. Yep
100%
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:19 AM
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23. thanks.
100% :D
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:38 AM
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22. Actions speak louder than words.
And that applies to women too.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:21 AM
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24. yes.
We all need to watch and listen. The words don't mean a thing if a person is saying one thing and doing another. Thanks. :)
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:15 PM
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25. Oui. Zat ze tongues of ze mens is be full of deceits.
Edited on Wed May-07-08 12:24 PM by Orsino
Good advice, though, with respect to people, and not just men.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:23 PM
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26. Not bad advice, although it really applies to everyone
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:24 PM
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27. My advice.....
Edited on Wed May-07-08 12:25 PM by Tikki
Watch how they treat their mother or an older female.

If they are genuinely loving and kind....not psychotically attached....but
thoughtful and respectful to these women they stand a good
chance of being that way with all women.


A question I would love to ask McCain.."Have you ever called your
wife a name you would never call your mother?"



Tikki
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:27 PM
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28. Agree with the advice, but would expand it to include everyone.
Anyway, I'm not going to presume to question what a dying man says to his daughter.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:30 PM
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29. No, you have to be careful, yes, but it goes both ways.
Not all boys are bad and not all girls are good.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:05 PM
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30. I do agree with it
It's true of human beings in general, but it's especially useful for someone who is getting into a romantic relationship. Loving words mean nothing without loving actions.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:45 PM
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32. hmm...
The same could be said for women. Yes, I agree-- actions speak louder than words.
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