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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:50 AM
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Your favorite conductor
In keeping with the musical theme. Who's your favorite conductor? (Specify whether of those alive today or of all time.)

All time -- ??? maybe Calvin Simmons because he was my homie
Alive today -- James Levine
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:52 AM
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1. Sir Georg Solti
Longtime conductor of the CSO.

Terry
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:52 AM
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2. Mine
All Time - Leonard Bernstein
Now - Leonard Slatkin (I go see the NSO alot).
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:02 AM
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11. Yah, Unka Lenny is great.
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 11:03 AM by realpolitik
Saw him all the time with the StL Symphony.


I love the way he conducts The Planets. Nice guy, too.

I like Ozawa a lot too.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:53 AM
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3. Either Yttrium or Bismuth
I'm torn... :shrug:
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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:22 AM
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15. Call me old fashioned, but I like Gold
but Bismuth is certainly tastier
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:54 AM
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4. Not of all time, but a real gem
is David Allen Miller of the Albany (New York) Symphony.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:54 AM
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5. The guy on the 6:35 train...
He always has a smile and kind word for everyone...
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:56 AM
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7. Metro-North has
...some hunky conductors!
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:58 AM
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9. You Metra riders have all the luck...
While we CTA riders have a disembodied voice to entertain us...

:-)

Terry
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:55 AM
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6. I know this sounds ignorant
...especially since I've been pretending to know a lot about opera, but I'm not that discerning where conductors are concerned. I could recognize a bad job of conducting, and I could recognize interpretive choices I might or might not agree with, but beyond that, I'm sort of lost.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:57 AM
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8. There is only one - Leopold
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:59 AM
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10. Neeme Jarvi
Detroit Symphony Orchestra
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:03 AM
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12. Alive today: Andre Previn.
All time: Arturo Toscanini.
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:10 AM
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13. Peter Schickele
And that PDQ Bach was a helluva composer too!
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:21 AM
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14. "And they're off!"
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:29 AM
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16. "Would you call that four-note idea a "theme" or a "motif"?
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 11:29 AM by Richardo
"Little trouble with the violins there, they weren't watching."

:D :thumbsup: LOL, T Roosevelt and pagerbear...
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:33 AM
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17. I used to have all the PDQ Bach LPs
Got rid of all my LPs in a major purge I did during one move. One of the stupidest things I've ever done.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:18 PM
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25. Arrrrrgh!
:spank:
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:08 PM
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22. Well, technically, Pete, it's a motif that you use to build a theme.
Thanks for clearing that up for me, Bob!
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:19 PM
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26. You're welcome, Pete.
:)
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:36 PM
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36. I'm off to do a Baton Commercial
Why Peter Schickele hasn't been given one of them there Kennedy Center honors is beyond me.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:46 PM
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40. W-double O-F....gives you the time of day....
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 01:48 PM by Richardo
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:50 PM
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41. In weather news
There is a weatherman's strike called by local 30.2 and rising, However, some weathermen have indicated that they will cross the picket lines, so look for widely scattered weather tomorrow.....
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:34 AM
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18. And orchestra
I've always been partial to I Solisti di Hoople.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:36 PM
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35. The Baptism Album with Joan Baez
Is simply amazing.
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twistedliberal Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:40 AM
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19. Oh...MUSICAL. I'm an idiot.
I was gonna say copper.

:silly:
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:42 AM
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20. Carlos Kleiber hands down
He didn't record much, but what he did put out is as close to perfection as you can get. The second movement of Beethoven's 7th is pure heaven.
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:42 AM
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21. Not a nice person but
Herbert von Karajan for all time.

I think today I'd say James Levine or Claudio Abado.
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:09 PM
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23. Fritz Reiner ...
for Prokofiev, anyway. Generally, I like Christopher Hoagwood and Sir Neville Mariner and others too.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:14 PM
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24. Pierre Boulez
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 12:18 PM by ZombyWoof
Also a composer. He is the best interpreter of the past century of music, and an accomplished avante-garde composer. He has conducted Debussy, Bartok, and Zappa in his career.


On edit: Boulez is alive, though nearing 80.

Favorite of all time... I'd have to mention Zubin Mehta, although the list could be long.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:22 PM
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27. Goo ol' copper. No pretense, and very reliable.
n/t
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:48 PM
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32. Damn, you beat me to it!
But I prefer gold.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:27 PM
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28. Casey Jones, of course!


That's what you meant, rignt?

(photo credit: pavekmuseum.org)
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NightNurse Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:29 PM
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29. Maestro Riccardo Muti
Thank you, Maestro!:yourock:
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jimbo fett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:35 PM
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30. Does Sir Topem Hat count?
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:43 PM
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31. Sir Neville Mariner of the Academy of St. Martins in the Fields
My favorite interpreter of Mozart.

Least fave: Leonard Bernstein.
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:17 PM
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33. Well...
There once was a conductor of a streetcar. He was a good conductor, but he was a poor conductor. It was a poor line that he traveled on, day after day. His salary was 5 cents out of every 10 cents fare he collected.

He had a pretty good time running his streetcar, collecting the fares, and taking a nickel out of each fare. That is, until one day a very beautiful woman got on his car. She was wonderful!

Day by day she would get on his car, and when he saw her, he would go crazy and get 'tingles' inside. Finally he got up enough nerve to propose to her. "I would like to marry you," he said, "but I'm just a poor conductor."

"That's all right," she said, and married him anyway.

Now, they were delightfully happy. She was the thrifty type, and decided one day she wanted a fur coat. He said, "I have no money, I am just a poor conductor."

She replied, "Never mind that. Just save one penny out of every five you take in, and soon you will have enough for my coat!"

When he caught on to how much he could save, he saved 2 cents out of every 5 cents and bought her a dishwasher. He saved 3 cents out of every 5 cents and bought her new furniture. He saved 4 cents out of every 5 cents and bought her a washer and dryer. He saved 5 cents out of every nickel and bought her a new car. But, she still wasn't completely satisfied.

"What we need to buy is a new house," she said. And that seemed like a reasonable request. "Only, " he said, "I can only take 5 cents out of each fare."

"You must take 6 cents out of each fare!" she demanded, "They probably won't even notice."

Well, he did and they did notice it. The boss called him in and they hustled him off to jail.

Now, in those days if you were caught stealing you were immediately sentenced to the electric chair. So, they took him and strapped him in. They turned on the juice and nothing happened. They tried turning off all the lights in the jail... still nothing. They even tried using some of the towns electricity... but still nothing.

Finally, after a huddle with the warden, they decided they would just have to let him go.

After all... he was just a poor conductor.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:44 PM
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39. And, here we go, right on cue
(although this is a severely abbreviated version)
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:33 PM
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34. Mr. Conductor!
The Ringo Starr Mr. Conductor, not the George Carlin Mr. Conductor.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:37 PM
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37. John Eliot Gardner
Choral, Orchestral, Whatever you want, he rocks.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:43 PM
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38. I am going to reply without looking at the other replies
and assume that Whitacre D_WI has already told the "poor conductor joke."
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:04 PM
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42. For Shostakovich, and Russian stuff in general,
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 02:35 PM by Snow
Viktor Yampolski. He really loves that music, and he knows how to make that love come across. I've sung under him, and he's very expressive, emotional, communicates very well without being patronizing. One I remember was the Hayden Cecila Mass, another piece Viktor really likes, and what a joy it was to perform it under him.

I'll dispute two of the choices other posters made, just because I feel disputative. To my ear, von Karajan is a very pedestrian conductor. He recorded tons, but I've never really heard anything special in any of it. If someone can tell me differently, I'll listen.

Second, I've heard some of the old-timers - was it Stokowski or Toscaninni - or both? - had outrageous tempers. Maestro Yampolski has more temper than he needs, and that's really a relic that he needs to get rid of. It's not effective, it gets in the way, and if you're a really shrieking maniac temper tantrum thrower (Vktor is not that bad), then you really compromise your musicianship.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:11 PM
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48. Non-pedestrian recordings by Karajan:
Prokofieff 5
New Vienna School - Berg, Webern, Schoenberg
Boris Godunov
Madama Butterfly
La boheme
Beethoven Cycles from 1963 & 1977

...there's more.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:05 PM
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43. Nelson Riddle
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 04:13 PM
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44. Of those I've worked under...
Antony Walker, Joseph Colaneri, Hugh Wolf, and Joel Revsen.

Of those I've enjoyed from an audience/listener's perspective, Eugene Ormandy, Otto Klemperer, Simon Rattle, Neville Marriner, Pierre Monteux...too many to mention!
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 04:18 PM
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45. Anton Armstrong of St. Olaf College
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:08 PM
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46. Karajan
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 06:09 PM by stopbush
is still my favorite.

Among living conductors, I'd rate Maazel, Gatti, Claudio & Roberto Abbado very highly.

There's too many dead guys who were great to list them here, but Szell, Furtwangler, Ormandy, Fiedler, Markevitch and Martinon spring instantly to mind.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:10 PM
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47. The African-American who...

...worked on the Essex Steam Train Ride when I was a kid. Can't recall the man's name, but he was a great conductor!
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:32 PM
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50. Willie Anthony Waters
...is a pretty damn good African American conductor of the musical sort.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:15 PM
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49. John Barry
Alive today, probably of all time. That might change in 5 years, but oh well.

Mozart and Bach are great, but if we all stuck repeating history, nothing new would be made and we'd lose our sense of creativity. (Note to movie makers, make something NEW and not a rehash or remake of something old, thank youuuuuuuuu...)
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