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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:55 AM
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I'm so outraged that I'm almost SPEECHLESS!
Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 11:00 AM by Cuban_Liberal
I just got home from the courthouse, where I had planned to testify in the armed-robbery trial of a low-life I arrested last fall. This guy held 15 people at gunpoint while he robbed a local bar, and he has a felony criminal record of a.) manufacture and sale of methamphetamine (2 counts), b.) felony domestic battery (2 counts), c.) aggravated battery upon a police officer (1 count), d.) sexual battery on a minor under the age of 13 (1 count), e.) armed violence (2 counts) and assorted multiple misdemeanors. A bad, BAD guy, right?

As I walked into the courtroom, the Assistant States' Attorney prosecuting the case waved me over and announced that they wouldn't need my testimony because they had struck a deal on a plea bargain: 4 years PROBATION and substance-abuse counseling as ordered by his probation officer!

:wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke::wtf::grr::nuke:

Edit: typo
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onebigbadwulf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:56 AM
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1. Well I guess that's testiment to 3 strikes in Cali.
tough break, but thanks for keeping the streets safe
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:58 AM
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2. Um, did they give any rational
Cuz that is gonna have to be one mutha of an explanation and I would really like to hear why the ASA decided to turn this unrehabilitated monster loose on society again.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:59 AM
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4. No explanation to ME, at any rate.
I have NO idea how they decided that this even approximated justice...

:shrug:
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kispoko Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:59 AM
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3. heh....
sorry man.... just kinda feels like all your work washed away, ennit?

sorry for us, too, while i'm at it, from the sounds of it

:wtf:
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:59 AM
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5. See this is why ppl go conservative
Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 11:01 AM by Kamika
When they see crap like this.

That guy should have been publicly whipped in a park or something
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:01 AM
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8. This sounds bad, but...
I drew down on this clown when I arrested him, because he still had the gun; in retrospect, I wonder if.... Nah, never mind.
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kispoko Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:36 AM
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25. if he still had the gun....
isn't nearly anything (even "drawing down" on him) fair game?


hey listen guy, try not to overanalyze it too much.... it'll kill ya. just know that you did your job, and some other people didn't do theirs.... can't account for everyone, but *you* served your duty. period.
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kispoko Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:28 AM
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22. this is *NOT* why people turn conservative....
why people turn conservative over this stuff is of course because of the people who automatically spin these things into somehow being "liberal" just because they disagree with them....

it is because they cannot grasp the fact that we disagree with them, too!


but it doesn't matter, if they disagree, the judge and prosecutors, et. al., will be magically transformed into communists so they can create more fiction from there about a "liberal justice system."


bullshit. jurisprudence has been fucked up in this country since it existed, and the ways it has and is still fucking the populace could hardly be described overall as "liberal."


don't feed rightist mythology
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:00 AM
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6. Is this guy related to Rush?
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:01 AM
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7. I hope this wasn't in Florida
that means Rush is likely to be given a medal for his heroic end to drug shopping.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:02 AM
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9. Illinois, sadly.
:shrug:
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swinney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:03 AM
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10. Court Justice==Disgraceful
I was only eye witness to a wreck. Cause of wreck was suing innocent party. I was not called to testify. I learned that the lawyers consorted to get as much as possible from Insurance company.

I was suing and judge called both lawyers into his chambers. My lawyer came out and told me the judge did not think I could win and to settle it.

I learned that both lawyers said same thing..

That is not justice.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:03 AM
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11. Was this scumball piece of human pghlem a celebrity by any chance?
Local celebrity even?

Bending the law in favor of celebrities is unevolved and deplorable enough, but to become competititve by letting non-celebrities get off as easily is a new low.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:05 AM
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12. Yes, his folks are wealthy farmers, and own a grain elevator.
This guy is BAD NEWS, though...
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:07 AM
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14. Well there is the issue ($$$)
Money in play makes all the difference in justice.
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:08 AM
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15. That fucker is the poster boy for vigilante justice.
If you are ever forced to draw your weapon on him again, please do us a favor.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:44 AM
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26. *grin*
It will certainly be a factor that I weigh in the equation, should the opportunity ever arise. :evilgrin:
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:10 AM
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16. THERE'S your answer...
"...his folks are wealthy farmers, and own a grain elevator".

justice is only for those who can't afford a way out.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:25 PM
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27. It's called "Capital Punishment"
the more capital, the less punishment.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:11 AM
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18. Probably a distant relative
of Janklow. :grr:

"This court find the defendant, Mr. Bill Janklow, guilty on charges of reckless driving and manslaughter, and hereby sentences you to 100 days in jail. *Next!*" :nuke: :grr:

(Still having issues with that...)
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onebigbadwulf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:07 AM
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13. That's the problem with electing district attornies
Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 11:07 AM by onebigbadwulf
they go for the record not for the justice.

more plea bargains means more efficiency.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:11 AM
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19. But they could have convicted this guy!
There was NO reason not to try him, or at WORST make him enter an open plea with no sentence reccomendation. No jury in this county would've let this POS walk...
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:11 AM
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17. Maybe somebody in the department needs a snitch
Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 11:12 AM by downstairsparts
Or maybe the felony got plea-bargained down to this in exchange for information on some more important felon the department is after. Maybe they accepted the plea bargain, counting on the felon to violate probation before those four years are up and ultimately wind up back behind bars anyway, for a much longer stay.

You did your job. That's all you can do. You'll be rewarded for it in some other way. Maybe in some other oblique way. You know that.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:11 AM
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20. As Kamika said...
This is why people vote conservative. Sickening. Sorry your work went to waste, man.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:19 AM
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21. We have a terrible State's Attorney in my county.
A known incompetent, elected because she had a (R) next to her name. Let a clear case of 2nd degree murder plea bargain to manslaughter. It is injustice to not give serious jail time to violent offenders. Meanwhile, Tommy Chong rots in jail.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:29 AM
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23. Ah well, Boys will be Boys, Right..OK White Boys will be Boys....
This crap drives me insane. I would love to be past racism, past classism, but we just can't get there as long as SOBs like this scumbag get this sort of treatment. This kind of "justice" is so goddamn common here in the USA.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:30 AM
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24. Somebody should have pointed out the recent Carlie Brucia incident.
The lowlife now in custody in Florida had a comparable record. The judge and the prosecution in this Illinois case will be looking for a place to hide if this guy crosses the line.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 01:15 PM
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28. What is strange to me is
that this guy has wealthy parents and he's pulling off an armed ROBBERY?? And the wealthy parents still get him off? :wtf:
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