Let's talk about sex

[CatWoman]

Anal sex, that is.

Is having anal sex perverted? Regardless of which sex is having that type sex.

I'll go on record as saying no.

But this is part of the Kobe bru-ha-ha.

He had anal sex with her. Not only did he rape her, but he fucked her in the rear.

He's a bad, perverted man.

Not in my book.

It makes me wonder about this country.

Does everyone "do it" in the missionary position, sans foreplay?

No oral sex? Clinton was crucified for receiving oral sex.

Now Kobe is being crucified for having anal sex.

[THUNDER HANDS]

1. I don't like it, personally

Which is odd, because I think most guys do like it a lot.

I know I used to always bug my ex about it to try it.

Once we did, I realized why she was hesitant about it.

It's not as great as it sounds.

I hate strap-ons!

:evilgrin:

[CatWoman]

5. Well, Jason we all know you're a fucking freak

:evilgrin:

:hi:

[Skittles]

HEY MAGIC RAT

HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT MOST GUYS LIKE? :7

[CatWoman]

7. ROFL!!!

good one, Skittles!!!

:hi:

And :hi: to Milkdud!!!!

[Skittles]

10. CATWOMAN AND I KNOW

BUT HOW THE F*** DOES MAGIC RAT KNOW???

[THUNDER HANDS]

12. funny

veeeeeeeeeeeeeerry funny

:mad:

[Skittles]

39. come on, now

we were just having a bit of fun at your expense. :7

[THUNDER HANDS]

45. i know

:)

[short bus president]

2. perverted? hell no

It's barely halfway to perverted. See my kink thread for details.

I heard some chick on MSNBC this afternoon talking about how half of America would be appalled that Kobe sodomized this girl. I couldn't believe my friggin' ears. Wasn't anal the "blowjob of the nineties?" Aren't we over this?

[Nevernose]

16. In the nineties

I knew a girl who didn't want to lose her virginity (as in her hyman) and thought oral sex was gross, which left her with one outlet (no pun intended) for sexual gratification -- anal. Gosh, what a lucky man her future husband must be, knowing that his wife will be "pure" on their wedding night. Strange, strange girl.

BTW, I used to call her Ni-colon.

[bicentennial_baby]

3. Fine by me

Not something I wanna do every day, but with the right person at the right time, it's all good!

[GOPisEvil]

4. I don't think there's anything wrong with it...

...I don't see what the big deal is. If you like it, then go for it!

[CatWoman]

6. I'll tell you what's perverted

a woman who insists on keeping and loving these stupid cats even after they just broke my precious glass flowers.

That was the "crash".

Damn cats!!!!

[GOPisEvil]

9. Damn cats!! What are they good for anyway?

The other white meat, I tell ya!

[sujan]

61. where did your older sig go?

[Skittles]

8. THE BIG DEAL

IS WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL. :evilgrin:

[Skittles]

11. CHECK IT OUT

A SEX THREAD FOR FIVE MINUTES AND NO MATCOM?????

*corrected*

[xray s]

13. All I know for sure

Rove is praying on his knees that this story is still around next fall.

[soothsayer]

14. Is THAT what Rove is doing on his knees?

Not servicing his master? (or vice versa, per the topic thread)

[Terwilliger]

15. I'll have anal sex with ya! BRING IT ON!

I will place it strategeristically!!

[CatWoman]

19. no, you

bring it on!!!!!!!!

[DarkPhenyx]

17. Ignore this post...............

I'm too tired to write anything that makes sense.

[CatWoman]

20. I'm not saying that he did

I was paraphrasing the spin.

Read my lips.

[DarkPhenyx]

22. Yeah, I saw...

...please note I re-wrote my post to reflect reality. or the screaming lack there of.

[Shakeydave]

18. We tried it once as a young couple!

Ya gotta have lots of lube and a slow grind! Jesus! I must be drinking tonight!

[CatWoman]

21. you're always fucking drinking

:hi:

[Character Assassin]

26. Sister, I speak from experience here. A LOT of experience.

Anal sex, as good as it can get, and it can get really, really, really good, (But hey, I'm a damn freak, right?), it does not need any interference from the demon alcohol.

It needs a bit fat dick and a lot of Astroglide.

Dig?

[Shakeydave]

30. Dig!

That's funny! :freak:

[TrogL]

60. Astroglide is for wimps

bear grease gives better traction

[Shakeydave]

29. Well ummmm, sure. Yeah.

:puke:

[AmyStrange]

23. sex is sex...

and getting off is getting off and as long as no one is hurt in the process... I think everyone should be able to do what the freak they want.

Kobe is getting slammed not because he had anal sex (it's only an excuse to hate), but because he is black.






Dave (AmyStrange.com)
http://www.SeattleActivist.org/MyLifeStory.html
DU (slang/ folklore) Glossary (Dictionary): http://DUG.SeattleActivist.org/
Index of WMD Articles: http://WMD.SeattleActivist.org/

Here are some excellent resources and timelines of quotes and interviews and newspaper article quotes documenting the different things Bush and Co did and said for the last two plus years concerning the war in Iraq and WMDs (and other fun things) from the Howard Dean Website---even if you're not a Dean Fan, these are still excellent resources:

The Bush Administration And WMDs: Then And Now:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=bush_wmd_summary

Niger-Uranium Timeline:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=niger_timeline

Bush and WMD: Assumptions vs. Reality:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_Bush_-_Iraq_-_Side_by_Side.pdf?docID=781

The Bush Administration and WMD: What did they know and when did they know it?:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/DocServer/TikTok_-_Administration_-_Iraq_Deception.pdf?docID=762


(edited "no one in is" to "no one is")

[northzax]

55. mm, the poor troglodytes must be torn

sure, there's no such thing as rape, but here we got us a colored guy doing a nice white gurl in the rear, AHHH, too many things, must hate everybody.

[madmax]

24. Not tonight, I've got a headache.

:evilgrin:

[BlueJazz]

25. Well, it's certainly not my cup of tea

but on the other hand, a lot of folks don't enjoy asparagus as much as I do.
I've never understood this Good/Bad thing when it (excuse the pun )comes to sex. Just make your partner happy and (excuse the pun, again)...Fuck the rest....and fuck those who don't approve of it. :)

[foo_bar]

27. is this satire?

Clinton was crucified for receiving oral sex. Now Kobe is being crucified for having anal sex.

I think the second part has something to do with "rape". Is that your idea of sexual liberation?

(yes, "alleged" anal rape)

[Ramsey]

28. I'll tell you what

I don't really want to know what Kobe did with whom, what Bill did with whom, or what anybody did with whom.

I think the whole fucking thing falls under the category of "too much information". Can I get other people's crap out of my consciousness now???

[CatWoman]

35. well, ramsey

you did click on the thread.

[Andy_Stephenson]

31. Sticks Fingers in Ears........

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

[supernova]

32. Didn't you know?

Sex doesn't exist in this country. Nope, never heard of it.

The only thing we do is lights out, missionary, no foreplay. 10 minutes, tops. Oh and be sure to change the sheets and take a bath afterwards. It's such a dirty business, you know.

Oh and please don't talk about anything other than missionary for procreation. We find the mind expansion, not to mention the appetite expansion, a little difficult to take.

I mean, what would this world come to if everybody started enjoying themselves? Won't somebody please think of the children?!

/sarcasm

As long as you make each other happy, who cares?

And uh, pass the AstroGlide. :7

[foo_bar]

33. liberation by slavery

As long as you make each other happy, who cares?

Perhaps the rape victim. Is that "old-fashioned"?

Obviously we don't know what happened. All we know is he's accused of assault. That's a (literally) gut-wrenching springboard for giddy putdowns of the sexually conservative.

[supernova]

36. This isn't a blame the victim post

Obviously we have no idea what transpired between those two. I'm not even pretending I know otherwise. Let the facts come out at trial.

As for the content of my post: I was responding to CatWoman's sentiment that as wigged out as people seem to be about the Kobe Brian case, they seem even more troubled that it was an alleged anal assault, not a vaginal assault.

In my book, assault is assault is assault. You can't really say that one form of assault is worse than the other.

It is my observation that the public discourse around human sexuality is extremely limited in the USA. We all do things we're not honest enough to own up to. It's foolish, immature, and lacks integrity.

[ForrestGump]

37. No, hands off my Astroglide!

And my little Astronaut.

[kixot]

34. Umm, no.

My wife and I had this discussion a LONG time ago. I don't want to go there and she doesn't want me going there either. I'll choose plain jane old vaginal intercourse anyday, thank you. Don't need to go puttin my willy anywhere it doesn't belong.

[Redleg]

38. Anal is fine as long as it is consensual.

Now if I can just convince my wife!

[MiltonLeBerle]

40. My wife likes it a lot.

It's not an every time thing, but it's definitely a big .part of the repetoire.
We also have a few pyrex "toys", some specically for that purpose that I don't mind saying that we both enjoy being on the recieving end of...
If you haven't tried glass toys- you definitly should.
between pre-warming them or cooling them, and switching between the sensations...well, you just gotta be there.

[unfrigginreal]

41. I'm a pretty big fan of anal sex myself...

but if Kobe did "fuck her in her rear" against her will than he is indeed a "bad, perverted man."

[CatWoman]

59. If he fucked her in ANY orifice

against her will, he is a bad, perverted man.

[Shanty Oilish]

42. Historical perspective

Charlie Chaplin was disgraced when his 2nd wife divorced him and charged that he had demanded oral sex, which at the time was considered atrociously perverted even for a communist and a genius. (Both he.)
Wife #4 was married to him for over 30 years so I ass_yume he improved somehow. Or diminished? :shrug:

[jus_the_facts]

43. she had to have 11 stiches......

....in her anal area...sounds like perversion to me :scared:

[StopTheMorans]

54. ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!?!?!

how the hell does anyone (short of an elephant), even without lube, inflict wounds that would require 11 stitches?

[jus_the_facts]

71. dunno and never want to find out either.......

...but that's what I read last night as being 'evidence' of his guilt...if that's true...bye bye Kobe :freak:

[WindRavenX]

44. Anal sex is not perverted

However, forcing any type of sexual acts on someone is wrong- it doesn't matter if it was vaginal or anal sex. Forcing sexual acts on someone who doesn't want it is wrong.
I've heard that anal is extremely painful for someone who has never had it- and because of the pain thing, I'm quite hesistant to try...I'm a wimp.

[matcom]

46. SEX???? ANALS???

bungs??? butts??? booties???

in through the out door???

cheek-slapping???

bottom-knocking???

WHY CAN'T YOU POST THESE DURING WAKING HOURS???? x(

ANYTHING anal-related gets a :thumbsup: from MATCOM!! :D

:bounce:

[buddhamama]

47. anal sex is not perverted

but i do think anal sex has a stigma attached to it because of 'gay' sex. it's one thing if you don't like it, quite another to call it perverted-sexual prudes.

fuck `em.

[foo_bar]

48. no one here said anal sex was perverted

Strawman: If it isn't socially accepted, it's perverted. (A->B)
Catwoman: If it isn't socially accepted, it isn't perverted. (A->~B, false negation of strawman)

The poster claimed Bryant is not-a-pervert since he was allegedly practicing alternative sexuality, despite it being allegedly episiotomy-inducing rape.

fuck `em.

Let God sort 'em out?

[buddhamama]

50. Catwoman asked a question

is having anal sex perverted?
i answered anal sex is not perverted. sorry, i should of added imho.
btw, i never said anyone here at DU said it was perverted.

maybe in your zeal to show off your ability to recognize strawmen you have skipped comprehension or you just assume everyone is less logical than yourself and need to be taught.

fuck the sexual prudes that will try and dictate what is acceptable between two consenting adults.

[foo_bar]

62. the question I'm addressing wasn't a question

Now Kobe is being crucified for having anal sex.

...

or you just assume everyone is less logical than yourself

Not everyone, anyone who sees no alternative to "all anal sex is perverted" and "all anal sex is not perverted".

fuck the sexual prudes that will try and dictate what is acceptable between two consenting adults.

The original premise isn't two consenting adults, hence "fucking 'em" is a bitter analogy.

[CatWoman]

67. *yawn*

maybe Harvard is missing one of it's professors?? :shrug:

[buddhamama]

73. the question i was addressing

was strictly about anal sex
here it is "Is having anal sex perverted? Regardless of which sex is having that type sex."

i answered in the negative.

i did not address the Kobe issue. there was a straight up question in there and i answered it.

this wasn't phrased 'if Kobe raped her by way of anal sex does that make him a pervert?' or does that make him more of a pervert. if he is an actually rapist, pervert doesn't begin to adequately address his problems.

and considering that in my previous post i wrote consenting adults,i don't think i have any more to add to this discussion.

[foo_bar]

75. if the original post only consisted of that question

I'd have no quarrel. But it went on to explain that Kobe was categorically not-perverted by virtue of a fallacious reactionary argument.

That said, I should've addressed CW directly instead of taking your one-part response as tacit agreement with the "crucifixion" part. I probably singled you out because your post was at the top of the stack, per Dilbert's corollary to Occam's Razor:

[buddhamama]

77. thank you

[underpants]

49. I never have

:shrug:

butt I have uh seen it done.

[BiggJawn]

51. I Like It!

Wish I could still get it...

[Lady Freedom]

52. LF's two cents worth!

Some like it, some don't. If a couple wish to do it, fine! If one is made to, thats bad. Just like any other sex act.

[Loonman]

53. It's a rumor, anyway

http://www.vaildaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030806/NEWS/308060103



Aren't people being a bit reactionary about this case?

Kobe is being crucified for his alleged crime, not what the rumormongers are saying.

[Maddy McCall]

57. exactly. n/t

[Maddy McCall]

56. Kobe is NOT being "crucified" for anal sex...

He IS being prosecuted for UNCONSENTUAL anal sex.

His and Clinton's situation are apples and oranges. Lewinski consented; Kobe's (alleged) victim did not.

[TrogL]

58. how it works

In men, it stimulates the protrate gland. When the prostrate spasms, it causes the effect of orgasm.

In women, there's nothing there. However, the anal area is orogenous and with sufficient flexibility it is possible to stimulate anal and vaginal areas at the same time.

[short bus president]

63. now THAT'S an episode of

TLC's "How Things Work" I'll have to record for future viewing!

[geniph]

68. Um, Trogl, that's "erogenous"

not "orogenous" - Orogeny is mountain-building. Ack!

[Rabrrrrrr]

69. I don't know, I've seen a lot of people who look orogenous

in the anal area, if you know what I mean. :-)

[VelmaD]

79. I wouldn't exactly say...

there's "nothing" there for women TrogL. Lots and lots of nerve endings.

Darth V

[MaverickX]

64. Kobe isn't being crucified for anal sex...

He's being crucified for rape.

[CatWoman]

66. that's been pointed out several times

but yet it takes a new life, er, angle by reporting that it was anal sex, and the deprivity of anal sex.

[sangha]

65. What is "the missionary position"?

and what kind of kinksters do *that*?

[geniph]

70. I don't understand obsessing/fetishizing any one act

but there sure are a lot of people who obsess or fetishize anal sex, one way or the other. It's just part of the body. Like most parts of the body, it's richly supplied with nerves, which can produce both pain and pleasure. Depending on what floats your boat, and how it's stimulated, it can be wonderful, horrible, or completely uninteresting. I don't understand why anyone flips out about ANY sex act between consenting adults of the same species.

I won't speak to Kobe Bryant's case, because as far as I'm aware, he has not been found guilty in a court of law yet. But half the homophobia in this country seems to come from people's utter fascination with the combination of sex and eliminatory function - as if the penis wasn't used for elimination!

I don't understand sexual repression or obsession with any single orifice or bodily function at all. Channeling Dr. Ruth: "ef eet feelz goot, und eet doesn't HURT enyboody..."

edited for damn typo!

[TEXASYANKEE]

72. I guess.

I like watching anal porn, but have never tried it myself.

This is the first I've heard that Kobe had anal sex with this woman. The guys on a local sports talk radio program this morning were questioning whether there was vaginal tearing because his penis was too big. Vaginal tearing doesn't jive with anal sex, so now I'm curious to hear more.

[noiretextatique]

74. no comment on the kobe case

except, the coverage is typical.

some women like anal sex, from my humble experience. there's nothing wrong with consensual sex acts between consenting adults.

[thermodynamic]

76. I shouldn't answer, but I definitely WILL!

On a personal level, I find it to be gross. I don't want to give or receive anal sex.

If others want to do it, and with mutual consent, then it's okay. Preferably within the realm of a relationship.

He's a bad, perverted man if he raped her. Rape is a very perverse act.

That's how I see it.

The media sees it as you are relaying it; missionary-only for the purpose of making babies - anything other act is a perversion. This is proof the media is consevatively biased. A fair and balanced media or liberal media wouldn't spin it or give unnecessary details to further an ideological concern.

He is accused of raping her, any other details are not important and would be used to further a mindset only.

Indeed, why are we turning some sports player into a celebrity? This is not news, this is diversion FROM REAL NEWS.

But reality is a dangerous concept, we all see it in a slightly different way.

[noiretextatique]

78. inquiring minds what to know

how do you put an avatar is your sig line? i tried just copying it, but it didn't work.

[SyracuseDemocrat]

80. Any kind of sex is ok in my book,

as long as it is consensual.