Natalie (Cole): Amy (Winehouse)shouldn't have won

[underpants]

http://musicnews.virginmedia.com/news/?news_id=54338

Natalie Cole was one woman who was unimpressed by Amy Winehouse's five-Grammy haul.



"I'm going on record as an artist who is able to critique her, I think she has a great talent but I don't agree with the Grammys giving her those nods," she said at the Sony BMG post Grammy Awards party.

She continued: "I think it sends the wrong message, that even in the midst of her stupor of drugs she can get nominated for all these awards. It sends the wrong kind of message to the people who are working very hard.

"It's a slap in the face to musicians and artists who work very hard that they turn around and give it to someone who really obviously doesn't have a grasp of what she has."


"I've been in this business over 25 years and I sacrificed five years of my own life on drugs and almost lost my life because of it," she said. "So I take great offence to almost see someone getting glory out of being in the position that they're in - she needs to get her life together and embrace her craft, she will lose it if she doesn't get it together. Rehab is no joke, I was there for six months."

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

1. Who does Amy Winehouse think she IS!?

Her father wasn't nearly as famous and far-freaking-more talented than she was! Doesn't Ms. Winehouse know that what it really takes to get by in this world is mediocrity and a famous name?

Natalie Cole. George W. Bush. You know. Whatever.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

2. Dupe

Dupe

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

3. Dupe

Dupe

[supernova]

4. Maybe because awards

aren't really about how hard you work.

They are about what other people think they see in you.

[grace0418]

5. "It's a slap in the face to musicians and artists who work very hard" that Natalie Cole has a career

at all. Not that I'm Amy Winehouse's #1 fan or anything, but Natalie Cole is mediocre at best. Her 25 years "in the business" is only due to her father's talent and fame.

[Rabrrrrrr]

6. Natalie's conclusion is correct, but her method is utterly wrong.

A person's lifestyle should have nothing to do with whether an award is given or not - that's just fucking asinine and ignorant to even suggest it. Awards go on talent, not on lifestyle, and if the grammy assholes, in their lack of wisdom and obvious tin-ears, wish to give Winehouse awards because they think she deserves them, then she deserves them.

But Natalie IS correct that Winehouse deserves nothing - but she deserves nothing because she's a fucking no-talent shitpile who will soon be consigned to the shitbin of history as she deserves.

10 years from now, people are gonna go "Why did the grammys give her awards? Who the hell is she? Where did she go?"

[MrCoffee]

9. Two words to prove how very wrong you are...

Milli Vanilli


Until the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences returns Fab & Rob's trophy, I'm continuing my boycott of the Grammy Awards.

[TreasonousBastard]

10. Except that 10 years from now she might be in the 27 club...

and then she's the natural replacement for Janis Joplin as this generation's mythical heroine of rock.

[tigereye]

12. I really like her voice

although her stuff is very retro, she does it quite well.


But it probably is fair to say that her image garners more attention than her talent.

[HughBeaumont]

25. It's a sad state of affairs when she's described as "edgy".

I don't get it, myself. Her success, that is; not her music, because there's really nothing all that elaborate or memorable to "get".

[LTR]

7. Coming from someone who defaced one of her father's songs to collect her Grammy

She merely added her own vocals on to his song and it inexplicably won 'Record of the Year."

Natalie Cole ain't shit. Amy Winehouse is a walking train wreck, but damn her music is good, and very original. And that's what the Grammys are for. Certainly not for leeching off Daddy's hard work.

Quite frankly, I never put much stock into the Grammys. It's all about sucking up to the music establishment, and many of the people voting don't know a damn thing about music. I mean, is Jethro Tull really a better 'heavy metal' band than Metallica?

[underpants]

11. There has always been a direct correlation between sales and Grammys

that being said has anyone actually bought Herbie Hancock's album???

But usually you have to be in the top 10 sellers to be considered aside from some throw away nominations.

ON EDIT-her album with her father was at that the same time creepy and transparently financial

and I grew up listing to her father's Christmas albums. He is under acknowledged amongst his Sinatra Bennett Mathis and Crosby peers, Nat was the best.

[Mike Daniels]

13. I was going to say pretty much the same thing re: her award

It's kind of hard to take Natalie seriously esp. given how she received her award (nostalgia for her father).

[LTR]

19. Cole has always been a mediocre, uninspiring talent

Very bland and ordinary. She never broke any kind of new ground.

When compared with other musical offspring, she's somewhere between Julian Lennon and the band Nelson.

[Shakespeare]

18. Not only that, but Ms. Cole has spent time in rehab herself.

That makes her a big ol' hypocrite.

[DS1]

8. Are we seeing the beginnings of the 'entitled' generation getting their voices?

Kayne wins and is a total fuckbag about it.
Kayne loses and is a total fuckbag about it, and he should have won.
Cole loses and is a total fuckbag about it, and she should have won.

[Fran Kubelik]

22. I don't think Natalie was even up for an award, was she?

But it was a weird thing for her to say.

[Dukkha]

14. mediocre mainstream crap as usual

Nothing will ever change with the grammys. The most irrelevant award ever :eyes: Her music sucks whether she's a drugged out skank or not. She'll be in the dollar bins next year.

[Shakespeare]

15. I saw that. Totally classless on Cole's part.

And hypocritical, too, considering she's also suffered from addition problems.

[Redstone]

16. I know a guy who played piano for Ms Cole years ago, and from his descriptions of

her bitchiness, I'm not surprised to see this.

Redstone

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

17. Well, Get Over It Nat. Talent Is Talent. Those Other Factors Are Irrelevant.

[kwassa]

20. I like Amy, I like Natalie, and the Grammys have always been a joke

As if they are the arbiter of what is good or bad in popular music. Puh-leaaze!

Many of the Grammy choices over the years have been for big-selling commercial pablum. The funniest area is often the new artists awards, where great new artists are stiffed by the latest #1 derivative hitmaker.

Inadvertently, artists get awards that really deserve it, too. There is no consistency in quality or choices, though. The idea of art as a horserace is pretty stupid, anyways.

I thought Winehouse was excellent in performance last night, and I hope she gets it together and faces her addictions, rather than being just another prematurely dead artist.

[dpbrown]

21. Why doesn't Amy just repackage her dad's music and sing over it like Karaoke? THAT's music!!!

Oh, sorry. My bad.

:rofl:

[LynneSin]

23. Yes, Grammys should go to people singing UNORIGINAL songs like Natalie Cole

Who scored her grammy off basically singing a duet with her late father.

God forbid we support people who write & sing original music

:eyes:

[MonkeyFunk]

24. Wow

that's really disappointing.


She must be hanging with Kanye.

[loveangelc]

26. Well Natalie Cole is an idiot then :)