Okay--This is not a political post, but it's about Chelsea Clinton.

[zanne]

I just saw her on television. How much plastic surgery do you think she's had done? I'm not knocking her for it; she looks beautiful, but I'm trying to figure out just what she had changed. It's obvious she had her nose done, but I know there's something else and I can't put my finger on it. Anybody know?

[GoddessOfGuinness]

1. The only difference I see is her hairstyle...

maybe a little haircolor and different makeup.

[zanne]

3. Really? Maybe I just don't remember her well enough. nt

[cutlassmama]

55. Yes, she had those stupid curls, then went to straight. She's

beautiful with straight hair.

[MrCoffee]

2. Oh. My. God. STFU!

Chelsea is HOT!!! LEAVE CHELSEA ALONE!!!!

[zanne]

4. You're kidding, right?

You actually think I'm trying to insult her? I think she looks fantastic!

[Debi]

18. Chris ... is that you?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

5. i dont think its plastic surgery. most teens look gawky and awful.

[Book Lover]

6. I think she just grew up is all

When she was more in the spotlight, she was a teenager and hadn't completed her growth cycle. I think you're just seeing her mature face.

[Zuiderelle]

7. You're right, it's not a political post, just a stupid one.

[zanne]

8. SHEESH!

I was curious. Don't get your panties in a knot.

[Zuiderelle]

10. Don't get your balls in a knot.

:shrug:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

11. ewww! the mental imagery. why do you do it to me?

:hi:

:rofl:

[Zuiderelle]

27. Sorry.

:) :hi:

[zanne]

15. I can't believe you'e this sensitive about Chelsea!

I'm not talking about her parents; get that straight, OK? She's a public figure; she does very public things. A comment about plastic surgery is not unacceptable. Chill.

[Zuiderelle]

24. If you can't see how inappropriate and insulting your post is, there's no sense in me explaining it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

25. dont get your panties in a knot is pretty sexist. if someone thinks your thread is stupid

there is no reason to resort to sexism to reply

[Shell Beau]

43. Really don't think that is what she meant.

And I don't find that sexist. Maybe I am crazy or just a litle insensitive. :shrug:

[zanne]

46. Yikes! I think everybody needs a nap!

Not for one minute did I think you people would freak out over this. Get some perspective, will you? How many times do I have to say it? I think she looks great and I'm GLAD FOR HER. I wish I could have work done! Get over it already.

[Capn Sunshine]

9. recent Image,

Doesn't look "fixed" to me.

[zanne]

12. No; she looked different today.

I still see the old Chelsea in that picture, but today on television, she really looked different. It wasn't just her nose, either. It was her mouth, too.

[EstimatedProphet]

13. Maybe it's the camera. Maybe it's the light.

[Bucky]

19. Is that her on the left or the right?

[FloridaJudy]

14. She's always had large features

But now she's grown into them.

BTW, I thought Chelsea was attractive even as a teen, much more so than the plastic Barbie type. Her face has character. And my son - who is the same age - thought she looked Hot, so it's not just me. Well, maybe it's just my family...

[LynneSin]

16. You realize she's not 13 years old anymore and she's wearing makeup

:eyes:

[zanne]

20. It's more than that.

Actually, I wasn't the first to notice it. My niece is here, and she and my husband both said "Oh My God" at the same time. They weren't insulting her. They thought she looked great.

[Phillycat]

17. Oh, for the love of...

:eyes:

[zanne]

22. Well,Tthis is the Lounge. I think some of the other questions are stupid.

I didn't think I had to worry about asking a stupid question here! Hey==it could have been the brazilian joke!

[Pale Blue Dot]

26. The brazilian joke would have been better. nt

[Phillycat]

28. Agree on that.

[Shell Beau]

31. I have no problem with your question. If it were about

Britney Spears it would be completely acceptable to ask. :shrug:

[Sock Puppet]

34. I think many of us feel protective of Chelsea.

[Shell Beau]

35. Of course we are. But plastic surgery isn't the most awful thing in the world.

[Deep13]

21. Dude! If I was 20 years younger and she had no standards...

...I would be so all over her.

[Left Is Write]

29. If she had no standards, would you really even need to be 20 years younger?

[Deep13]

56. Well, I wasn't married then. nt

[XemaSab]

23. My mom thinks she's had her chin done

Her chin is bigger, and fits better with the rest of her features.

:shrug:

[XemaSab]

30. Ah yes....

http://www.goodplasticsurgery.com/archives/004880.html

[sniffa]

32. I just did a google image search, and the first hit for "Chelsea Clinton" is

Is this where you got your notion from?

[Lex]

38. I must be crazy. I don't see the difference.

It's all different angles and ages and hairstyles. Same features.

[Critters2]

58. That's what I thought, too.

Hope she didn't pay too much for it.

[zanne]

40. No. At first, I just saw her on a news story on TV.

I posted it and the sh__ began to fly, so I did a search. Then I found the site with those pictures on it.

[Sock Puppet]

33. I've been looking online since you posted this.

I really can't see that she's had work done. She's just in better shape and obviously spending more time on hair/makeup.

[zanne]

37. She did have work done. I knew I wasn't seeing things...

Click here. http://www.goodplasticsurgery.com/archives/004880.html

Don't get me wrong. I'm happy for her; she deserves to look good.

[Lex]

39. She looks different because of age and hairstyles, etc.

That site did nothing to "prove" it, imho.

[zanne]

41. That site is one of the Lounge favorites!

Plenty of people here have used that very site to point out the work other people have had done. Look--it doesn't really matter, OK? Wow. It just goes to show how touchy people are around here these days!

[Lex]

45. Some people have clearly had work done.

I'm sure not everything on that site is wrong.

It's just not clear to me from those pix.

Is it "touchy" to merely disagree?

[Shell Beau]

47. Sometimes you just can't win. Who cares if she has had work done?

It is her prerogative anyway! We talk about all kind of celebrities looks around here. All of the time.

[zanne]

51. It's not touchy to disagree.

I just didn't think people would think I was being evil when I first wrote the post!

[Hatchling]

36. She's lost the baby fat in her face.

It also looks as if she might have had some dental work (braces? caps?) because her smile is nicer, but the rest is just the result of a good stylist. She's gorgeous.

[Lex]

42. faces tend to elongate as we age nt

[CTyankee]

44. Oh, zanne, zanne! I don't hate you, truly I don't.

But of all the things that we could be wishing for her, commenting about her conduct during this campaign, her accomplishments and her graciousness, we get a question about plastic surgery? It's like women can't learn, grow, become fabulous individuals with bright futures without this kind of comment?

This is what drives the consternation of liberal women on this board. Please take this as it is intended. Not a put down. A gentle reminder of what is really important...

[Shell Beau]

48. But this is the lounge! We talk about peoples looks all of the time. Why

is Chelsea the exception?

And she has done a fabulous job during this campaign. Very mature and dignified. But we do notice people's appearance. Hers has been great. The poster just wondered about plastic surgery.

[zanne]

50. THANK YOU, SHELL BEAU!

Finally! I have nothing against plactic surgery or the people who have it done.

[Zuiderelle]

54. "How much plastic surgery do you think she's had" is different than "Do you think she has had...

plastic surgery." Either way is bad to me, but I wouldn't have commented about it had she worded it the second way, I would have just said "No, I don't think she has had plastic surgery."

[zanne]

49. Christ. You're taking this entirely the wrong way.

I guess I should have waited until a few months after the general election to post this, huh? I haven't noticed people being shy around here about commenting on celebrity appearances. Don't be disingenuous.IT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE A SERIOUS POST. TAKE A PILL, EVERYBODY.

[CTyankee]

57. I see that I must apologize for being such a liberal.

How awful of me on Democraticunderground.com.

I tried to find common ground. I am sorry you have not found it possible.

It saddens me because I had thought that DU was a place where people, men and women, had evolved to where we were evaluating people on, oh I don't know, brains and ability and some sense.

You didn't do a BAD thing, Zanne. Please don't misconstrue what I said. It was, as I said, a gentle reminder. Just a nice way to say, hey, maybe we, of all people in our society, can look at people a little better than the crass and cynical media. Just maybe...?

[Manifestor_of_Light]

60. I see nothing wrong with your question.

She does look a lot better. If she had plastic surgery, there's nothing wrong with that.

Hell, I had a deviated septum and had a nose job to open my nostrils wider, but the doc also rounded the tip and took out the slight hump at the top. He was an ear, nose and throat doctor, and he only did plastic surgery on noses and ears.

I was 21 years old when that was done. The only problem was that after that, my glasses slid down my nose! The hump kept them there! And that was a long time ago. My nose didn't look that bad to begin with, but I'm glad I had it done.

[Mitsuko]

52. I think she had rhinoplasty

De-lurking. Hi, posting first time here after lurking for a few months. My professional opinion, for what it's worth, is that Chelsea did have a limited rhinoplasty. Specifically, she probably had her tips refined to look less bulbous because unfortunately she inherited Bill's nose. That's the only discernible difference in my opinion. I think she looks great since the goal of good cosmetic surgery is subtlety and tweaking what you already have. This kind of stuff is a lot more common amongst young, professional women like Chelsea. For example, when I used to do cosmetic injections, clost to half of my clients were professional women in their 20s or 30s.

[SallyMander]

53. Welcome to DU as a de-lurker!

:hi:

[Emit]

59. She just grew up, that's all

and uses a flat iron and makeup now