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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:23 PM
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Top 10 Drunk American Writers
“Alcohol is like love. The first kiss is magic, the second is intimate,
the third is routine. After that you take the girl's clothes off.” - Raymond Chandler

http://www.alternativereel.com/includes/top-ten/display_review.php?id=00075

RL

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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:25 PM
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1. When I lived in Oxford, MS
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 09:26 PM by lizziegrace
Faulkner had died years before. Barry Hannah was trying to take his place. I worked in an office on the square and he stumbled into my office at 10:30 in the morning reeking of alcohol. Took me 30 minutes to get him to leave...
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:28 PM
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3. A little trivia
Raymond Chandler wrote The Big Sleep.

William Faulkner wrote the screenplay for the Movie version.

Drunks Unite!

RL
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:29 PM
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Still haven't watched it yet
This weekend for sure. :)
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:31 PM
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6. The kids and I watched it this weekend...
:hi:

RL
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:26 PM
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2. Good list - I'm glad Poppy got a high rating.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:28 PM
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4. He forgot to mention that you can never get the girl's clothes back on.
There is no emoticon for pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:31 PM
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8. True...
But why would you WANT to get her clothes back on?

:shrug:

RL
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 11:11 PM
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21. Come on man. I'm in slowbriety, and I'm getting somewhere, somewhere good.
My past will not leave me be, and thus may not be resolved via program, but I'm taking care of myself regardless, as we're supposed to. Besides, I am far less the "bad guy" that my past may make me out to be, than people think. A lot can change due to contextual shifts, and then who knows who started what, or why?

Peace, RL. I hope that if anyone knows about me, as my past tends to follow me around quite willfully and gleefully, might understand how someone looks when they are terrified, without the tools to function, and use the only tools that they know, namely huffing and puffing, to try to gain themselves some security from the things that they cannot possibly control, that have total control over them.

Your post caused me to flash back to the pre-surrender powerlessness, and I haven't had one of those in a while. I am humbled and will be praying for all alcoholics tonight.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 11:16 PM
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23. I understand completely
pre-surrender powerlessness is something worth remembering.

But still quite an intense feeling to flash back to.

We're both just one drink away from being back there again.

Here's hoping we all stay where we need to be, in the solution.

:hug:

RL
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 11:25 PM
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24. Yours is one of the most powerful posts I've ever seen.
:hug: I'm in awe. Thank you so much for that.

"how someone looks when they are terrified, without the tools to function, and use the only tools that they know"
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:45 PM
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16. Ah, another friend of Bill's.
:hi:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 11:02 PM
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20. .
:hi:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 11:13 PM
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22. and another...
:hi:

RL
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:58 PM
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26. Same here
Bill W. is my homey.
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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:29 PM
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5. I wonder who the #1 Smoking American Writer was
No I don't.

It was Vonnegut. Pall Malls baby. Take that Algren! :-)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:31 PM
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7. I would have expected more loungers
:crazy:
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:32 PM
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9. Good list! Glad to see Fitzgerald made it
I live in the neighborhood he grew up in. He was born in a house that's just a block away, down the street. He took dance lessons in a school that used to be in my building.

I still think he was a hack, though. But he's OUR hack.
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:34 PM
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10. Where is Dorothy Parker?
Women can be raging alcoholics too.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:35 PM
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11. Interesting
most alcoholics are very bright, talented people. Some have done some of their best work under the influence and some never find their rhythm again in sobriety. Odd thing.

Thanks for that Retro.

:hi:
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:05 PM
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27. Stephen King
Outed himself in a New Yorker interview as a recovering alcoholic/cocaine addict. The stuff he wrote while in active addiction is not his best (he can't even remember writing most of Cujo), but since then it's gotten better, IMHO.

Nothing as good as The Stand, but maybe given time...
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:37 PM
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12. Modern- Caroline Knapp and John O'Brien. RIP, both.
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: I miss them.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:38 PM
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13.  Dorothy Parker. nt
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:42 PM
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14. The Bukowski quote is perfect
"I have the feeling that drinking is a form of suicide where you're allowed to return to life and begin all over the next day. It's like killing yourself, and then you're reborn. I guess I've lived about ten or fifteen thousand lives now."

As a 4 years + sober alcoholic, that quote really resonates with me.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:45 PM
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15. Yeah, I liked that quote too...
It was the beginning over the next day, then the next morning, then just never stopping that got me...

:hi:

RL
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:35 PM
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17. Top Ten Sober American Writers

























*crickets*
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:41 PM
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18. Richard Brautigan.....
The Hawkline Monster (a Gothic Western), In Watermelon Sugar, Trout Fishing In America.... One of my all time favorites...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:42 PM
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19. Damn, I thought that was the title of a documentary that Johnny Depp and Sean Penn were cohosting!
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 11:30 PM
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25. I am drunk right now... but whether I"m great is up to you!!!!!
I t hihk I"m just a writer.

~Writer~
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