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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:07 PM
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Does anyone else count salamanders?

No? Just me? :P


:hi:
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:08 PM
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1. pfftt
:spray: :spray: :spray: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:



lost
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:09 PM
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2. I'm good at finding them too!

Hi lost :D

How are you doing today?
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:09 PM
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3. Nope. I count froggies. :)
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:12 PM
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4. You're hired!

Get going! :D


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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:14 PM
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6. I think I count 29, but it's a wee bit hard to tell there. :P
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:12 PM
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5. I count geckoes
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:14 PM
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7. I think DarkTirade has one you can add to the total!

:hi:


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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:15 PM
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8. awww, what a cutie!
:D
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:51 PM
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34. Yes, but mine had a blue stripe across her eyes. :)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:17 PM
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47. I count two
Haruka's gecko tank is next to the computer.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:17 AM
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55. What kind of geckos?

:hi:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:28 PM
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88. Leopard geckos
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:33 PM
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9. No Newts!
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:46 PM
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10. What about this kind?

They are adorable! :D


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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:51 PM
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35. And much less slimy than the other kind.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:51 PM
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11. We count only blue cars.
Sorry...obscure reference...:crazy:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:06 PM
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14. ???

OK, now you have to 'splain! :D
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:09 PM
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18. Whipper snapper....
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:13 PM
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23. I know that song!

:hi:

How's it going, VR? :hug:
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:18 PM
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24. Great, actually!!
ZI had his cardiologist appointment today. Everything looks good, and his cholesterol has been stable for 2 years in the low 200s!

It's a very good day. Oh, and my back doesn't hurt near as much anymore!!

:woohoo::woohoo:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:38 PM
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26. YAY!!!

Soooo glad everything looked good with ZI's appointment, and that your back is getting better! :woohoo:

:hug:
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:39 PM
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28. I know it!
Now I'm ready to do stuff!! Why does it have to get so arctic cold this weekend? x(

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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:43 PM
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31. We will have to do the Book Loft/GV Cup O Joe trip

sometime soon! :D
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:53 PM
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38. Maybe next week.
Maybe tomorrow. :P

Don't be surprised if you get a knock on your door around 10am. :rofl:
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:08 PM
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17. Dishwalla.
One of my favorite 90s songs.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:00 PM
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12. Yes!!!!
I count 1!

:rofl:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:06 PM
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13. But now there are 6

in the sig lines on this page! :evilgrin:


:rofl:


Hi SPK! :hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:49 PM
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48. no, there can only be one sally mander!
:hug: HI!
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Hatchling Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:08 PM
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15. I gotta tell my lizard story.
There I was watching tv and I hear this hissing sound in the hallway, and saw two of my four cats racing in that direction. Being in S.CA, there is always the minuscule chance that a small rattler might get in so I chase after them to save their stupid little asses. I get there and they have this four or five inch lizard cornered.

This poor little guy is standing up on his front legs hissing at these four huge cats and backing them down. I have never seen anything so brave in my whole life. He was just awesome! I was so proud of him.

I got the cats out of the way and captured the lizard and let him out, and he didn't even lose his tail.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:10 PM
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19. Neat! What did he look like?

Was he angry when you captured him?

You're a kind soul to rescue him! :hi:
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Hatchling Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:55 PM
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39. He was completely enraged.
I just did a search for lizards in California. I think it's this little guy, but he sure looked a lot taller in the standoff.

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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:14 AM
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52. What a cutie!

:loveya:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:08 PM
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16. we have bunches of folks who've done salamander population work here...
...at Humboldt State University. Sharyn Marks and Hart Welch are here (Hart's at the Forest Serv. Redwood Sciences Lab so he's adjunct in my dept). Lots of salamander counters here!
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:12 PM
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21. That's a campus i'd love to visit!

You guys have Pacific giant salamanders out there, no? Those would be awesome to see! :hi:

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:20 PM
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25. one of my grad students and I did some work on hyporheic insect habitat...
...and the big story turned out to be widespread use of streambed hyporheic zones by juvey Pac giants. Damned things would get into our traps-- which were only accessible from underground-- and eat all the arthropods.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:38 PM
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27. Heehee

They were probably happy you had created that lovely buffet for them! :D
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:11 PM
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20. The last time I saw a salamander was as a child on the prairie of Montana.
Under the house was damp in the spring and they would come out of
wherever they spent the winter.

Back in the day.





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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:40 PM
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29. I wonder what kind they were?

That is a lovely pick Ptah -- i love the light. :hi:
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:43 PM
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32. If I remember clearly they were black with orange coloring.
I don't remember whether they were striped or spotted.

That was our home until I was seven.

It looks bleak, but the inside was very warm.

Home sweet home.



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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:46 PM
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33. Maybe tiger salmanders?
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 08:46 PM by SallyMander
They are some of my favorites!




On edit - which one is you? :D
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:53 PM
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37. Thank sure looks like I remember.
I'm the one with the striped shirt.

It was sister's second birthday.

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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:13 PM
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22. I count SallyMander
as one of my friends. :)

:hi::hug::loveya:

Look what I found today!! I thought of you (of course)

http://columbus.craigslist.org/pet/540940557.html
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:40 PM
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30. Awww

:bounce:


:hug:


:loveya:



p.s. You should not encourage my menagerie! :D
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:52 PM
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36. I'm sorry.
I would so have a menagerie if I could.

I was thinking about getting goldfish, but then I read they can live to be 30!! I'll be 60-something if I'm a good goldfish keeper.

Still want a puppy, but ZI says no until we get a house. :(
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:57 PM
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40. I had a friend who counted box turtles every spring...
I'd enjoy counting either box turtles or salamanders, though! :hi:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:58 PM
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42. I LOVE box turtles!

Especially the babies... adorableness!!!

:hi:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:38 PM
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49. I found one crossing the street one morning, years ago...
and brought him inside for awhile, so my older boy, who was a toddler at the time, could see him for a week or so. We had a big 75 gallon terrariumthat we put him in for a temporary home. One day I was involved in chores, and noticed that things were just a little too quiet. I went looking for my son, and found him in the terrarium with the turtle, tossing dirt and leaves around. He hadn't touched the turtle...he just wanted to play in the dirt!
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:15 AM
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53. That's hilarious!!!

:spray:


Was the terrarium on the floor? Or had he climbed up into it? :rofl:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:22 PM
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86. It was on a low dresser, next to our bed.
He always was a climber...
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:58 PM
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41. You will all have to count 'manders iwithout me

We are headed to our favorite local watering hole :9


:loveya:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:00 PM
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43. Don't get me started on salamander counting
Just don't go there.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:16 AM
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54. ???

But they're so cute!

:shrug:
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:09 PM
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44. no I count bugs
well, I used to when I had a life
:cry:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:17 AM
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56. Bugs are fun too

What kind did you count?

:hi:
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:23 AM
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63. lots of kinds
but I studied treehoppers in grad school so I mainly counted those.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:27 AM
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64. Like this?




What beautiful colors! They look like little thorns.

What were you studying?
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:56 PM
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72. there is no picture but
since you described them like thorns, yep. Not that kind of treehopper (I'm assuming it was Umbonia sp.) but I studied systematics of Membracidae (treehoppers) and for my thesis I revised a subfamily of treehoppers. I ended up describing 2 new genera and about 70 new species. Whew! All that for an M.S.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:15 PM
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45. I counted various minerals inside of rocks.
:boring:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:18 AM
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57. What were you studying/documenting?

:hi:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:16 PM
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46. I don't think I've ever seen a real one.
:shrug:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:19 AM
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58. Next time you are in Ohio

I will introduce you to some of my favorites! :D

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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:40 PM
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50. I used to count aquatic insects and oligochaetes
Now I count percent recovery and area readings for chemical analyses.

Does that count?
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:20 AM
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59. Hey, that's neat!

I wish i were better at aquatic insect/oligochaete identification. There are so many neat critters!

:hi:
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:48 PM
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51. it comes to 2 :(
I found a salamander for the first time a couple of weeks ago, when it was warm and rainy. I was so excited, I'm digging a pond so we'll have frogs and this was just as good!! So I 'helped' my new little mander buddy by taking him to the edge of the yard and putting him behind the vegetable bed, thought I did him such a favor. Then the next day I was cleaning up the leaves where I'd found him and there I found his friend, another slippery green cutey. I tried to catch it so I could move it to the same place but it went under the deck :(
So I think I wrecked at least two salamanders' lives :cry:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:21 AM
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61. I don't think you wrecked their lives

Even if the one didn't want to be relocated, i'm sure he/she could find his/her way back. They have an amazing sense of direction and homing capability!


That's so cool that you're making a pond! If you want more info on how to make it salamander-friendly i'm happy to help out. :D :hi:
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:11 PM
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69. I'll remember.
Well my memory sucks but your name will remind me.

I FAILED at getting it dug last year and now I'll just have to wait til Spring. Since we're on a hill where there's no water, the two salamanders made me SO excited. There's a stream through the neighborhood but it's about 1/3 mile away, the fresh water helps a lot of animals even though it's so crowded here.

My aunt also told me the little salamanders had sense to find each other! I sure hope.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:20 AM
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60. No, but I used to count green lynx spiders in the abelia bushes at a place where I worked.
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 11:20 AM by raccoon

One day I counted 30 spiders.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:22 AM
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62. What a very cool looking creature!

I've never seen one of those. Where are you located? And were you supposed to be counting them, or were you avoiding work? ;)


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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:49 AM
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67. Located in SC. I checked them out when I wasn't busy at my work. :-) nt

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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:52 AM
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68. I had a field job studying spiders

Misumena vatia, a type of crab spider. The females can turn from bright yellow to pure white, depending what kind of flower they're on!




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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:14 PM
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70. Thanks for those pics! Where were these spiders? nt
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:19 PM
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71. I think they have a huge range in North America

but i was working in southern Maine, right near the coast. It was totally gorgeous. :)
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:38 PM
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75. Believe it or not, I've seen the yellow ones in Alaska
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:58 PM
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76. Wow!

That's amazing!

:wow:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:28 AM
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65. K'ed, R'ed, & Bookmarked.
I do love this thread so far, but I'd love to see more pictures of all these glorious wonderful critters. Ah, critters are great, aren't they?
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:31 AM
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66. Hee hee -- and it's a copycat

But i am thoroughly enjoying it too! :D


I love people who appreciate the non-fuzzy contingency of the animal kingdom. :hug:

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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:03 PM
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73. I had a good friend that counted for the state of California
He was the state herpetologist, but he got roped in all sorts of counts - he counted everything from snakes to fish. He loved the official bird counts the best - he had a keen eye. RIP Mr T, you tough us more than just woodcraft.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:59 PM
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77. Sounds like a neat guy

So far all the herpetologists i've met have been fun, fun people. :D
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:18 PM
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74. No, but Salamander Crossing was a good band.
Did you ever count manders in Amherst, Mass?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salamander_Crossing



I have Western fence lizards and skinks to count in my yard. They like to hunt in and around the compost pile.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:00 PM
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78. I've seen sallies near Amherst!

But they weren't playing music. I'd probably like that band though! I'll have to look them up...

I love lizards too -- do you have the skinks with bright blue tails?

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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:19 PM
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80. No, wish that I did.
The first skink I saw looked too much like a snake and it made me jump back a foot.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:47 PM
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82. Hee hee

Many of them are a bit snakish! :D
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:04 PM
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79. I know someone who courts a SallyMander, does that count?
*jealous*

:P
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:46 PM
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81. You should introduce me to him!

:P


J/k... :rofl:


How are you today billyskank? :loveya:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:50 PM
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83. Christopher Walken counts Salamaders too
Can he also count on your vote?
Don't fall for the Mercer hype...He is a big time DINO...
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:51 PM
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84. Where does he stand on the amphibian issue?

I'm going to have to see how he voted on the National Wetland Day Act.

:rofl:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:01 PM
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85. People who are mean to Amphibians piss Chris off!
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 05:04 PM by GoPsUx

Chris is down with Wetland lizards!
Mercer eats them..
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:36 PM
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87. Not in the over-all tally, no. n/m
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