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anti-NAFTA Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:26 PM
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Least Favorite Poet?
I don't know about you guys, but I just can't stand William Blake. His almost cutesy style of writing as though he was a child is sickening. And his poem written through the eyes of a black child is repulsive. (parody: "i wish i was white because white people are so pure and i'm evil).

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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:27 PM
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1. I don't get Ezra Pound... never did... I tried
but.... bzzzzzzzuppppt.
forgedaboudit.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:27 PM
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3. Ich, Ich, Ich. (n/t)
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anti-NAFTA Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:29 PM
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4. Same here.
Pretentious.
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stromboli Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:51 AM
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30. pound
it took me a long time to "get" pound. he's definately an elitist and trying to read a lot of his stuff, especially some of the cantos, is like sawing through frozen butter with a plastic knife. i was forced to go through his poems in a lot more detail and actually found some brilliant pieces. i'm not wuite to the point of "liking" him, but he's definately got some good stuff.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:27 PM
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2. Robert Frost
Just because I like most poetry. Some of his stuff is too Luddite for me.

Ironic because I was given a book of his poetry when I won the Dartmouth Book Award.
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FreeperSlayer Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:31 PM
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5. Shelly was crap
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:41 PM
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6. Ode to Joyce Kilmer's "Trees"
I think that I shall never hear
A poem as bad as "Trees" by Joyce Kilmer.
To learn it has been for many a dreaded fate
Reading it is like hearing nails scratching slate
It has a classic rhythm, just think of Pope
(For centuries, monotonous beyond all hope).
It's true, it's true, you see
That only God can make a tree
But man makes paper, pen and ink
And also poems that really stink.
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:45 PM
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7. Frost.
Horrible.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:45 PM
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8. It's between Wm. Stafford and
that kid in my Creative Writing class who writes the most sloppy, tortured, self-pitying, inelegant phrases about his little yuppie life.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:45 PM
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9. Wordsworth is a solemn bleat.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:47 PM
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10. any poet who
gets on tv to hawk their poetry... other than that i`ll read just about anyone
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:56 PM
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11. Emily Dickinson
keep your poetry in your room, too.
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Diogenes2 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:37 PM
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12. Poetry
Let's see: the greatest English visionary poet is cutesy & sickening. Shelly (sic) is crap. Dickinson should've just stayed in her room-- a total disgrace, no doubt. What a mindless load of pretentious poet bashing. Go back to your marbles. You don't deserve to even mention the names of these brilliant, mystical writers. You sicken me with your trivial assertions, & I hope you will acquire a more mature perspective some day.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:39 PM
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13. Any of the "Fireside Poets"
they are all horrible.

I hate Longfellow. Anne Bradtreet makes me crazy. Edward Taylor is tortured--and somehow he manages to be even worse than John Donne. (I know more about American poetry than British.) Emerson's poetry is some of the worst crap ever put to paper.

I could go on, but it's hard to find good insults in sentence after sentence.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:46 PM
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14. no argument here
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Diogenes2 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:48 PM
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15. Donne
Yeah, John Donne really sucks. Not.
What is this thread, the revenge of 7th grade remedial English class?
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:52 PM
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16. Actually, no
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 10:54 PM by tishaLA
I'm ABD in one of the top English programs in the country.

You'll remember that virtually everyone thought the metaphysical poets sucked until Eliot revisited them 80 years ago.

I didn't know that just because poets are canonized means they cannot be among our "least favorite" poets.
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Diogenes2 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:06 PM
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17. Donne
I'm not talking about credentials, I'm talking about poetry. I can understand someone not having a personal preference for one author or another, but this "bathroom wall" method of slamming great poets like Donne or Blake or Shelley (canonical or not) & their entire life's work with some epithet like "crap" would be laughable if it didn't betray such a distressingly narrow, impoverished thinking process at work.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:39 PM
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21. Well, the thread's title says
"least favorite poet"--not "worst poet." Frankly, one who seems to admire poetic works should be pleased to see that poetry can still invoke strong reactions in readers, whether positive or negative.

You are the only one who seems to be saying that a "least favorite" poet is synonymous with "worst." And yes, those I have listed are among my LEAST FAVORITE poets. You are welcome to disagree, but I am welcome to my (very well informed) opinions about whom I like and dislike. But it's good to know that Matthew Arnold, Robert Browning, Pope, and Dryden agree with my assessment of Donne, even if you do not.
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Diogenes2 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:00 AM
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22. Metaphysical poetry
The writers you mention disliked Donne for the most part because of his irregular meter, learned vocabulary, & elaborate, convoluted "conceits" or extended metaphors. I hope you realize that your citation of conservative, canonical critics in defense of you antipathy to the Metaphysicals is placing you on the "wrong" side, the "retro" side of poetic history. Donne broke all the rules if you ask the advocates of smooth, placid, carefully-measured versification. Bad Donne! :)
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:24 AM
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24. Oh I'd prefer to be on the side
of Eliot, a misogynist, anti-semitic, crypto-fascist instead. He's the reason we rediscovered the metaphysical poets, after all. (You don't have to define "conceits" for me, by the way; I happen to know what they are almost as well as I know chiasmus and metonymy.) I guess an evil bit of conservatism lurks beneath both sides of the Donne debate, does it not?

I'm gald you like Donne and I won't badger you over your subjective opinion. He is among my least favorite poets, however.
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Diogenes2 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:35 AM
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27. Eliot
Hey, you're a real firebreather when it comes to Eliot! I admire that. He WAS a rather stuffy old prig, & definitely a kind of moral midget in the ways you cite. But please don't blame poor old Donne for the shortcomings of Eliot!
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:39 AM
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28. You
Edited on Sun Feb-08-04 12:51 AM by tishaLA
criticize those who criticized Donne and I can't make comments about the person responsible for us now reading him? That's an odd double standard. Anyhow, he was significantly MORE than a stuffy old prig, as a wealth of scholarship demonstrates. I guess we can sweep that under the carpet, though, when someone else's "least favorite poet" is being discussed.

I will continue to enjoy avoiding Donne. I hope you continue to enjoy reading him.

Edit: spellig erros. Alway.
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anti-NAFTA Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 06:17 PM
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31. You tell 'im.
There's a reason why a genius like Alexander Pope that Donne was garbage.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:08 PM
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18. e. e. cummings.
I LOVE CAPITAL LETTERS, TOO!!!!!
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Diogenes2 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:35 PM
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19. e.e. cummings
Finally, a sensible critique! If you LOVE CAPITAL LETTERS, cummings is definitely NOT the poet for you. :)
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:39 PM
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20. Emily Dickinson
My God! Whine, whine , whine...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Diogenes2 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:11 AM
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23. Emily Dickinson
LOL! Yeah, Emily's a bitch, ain't she? :)
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:30 AM
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25. "Yellow Rose of Texas"
You can take any Emily Dickinson poem and set it to the tune of "Yellow Rose of Texas".
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:32 AM
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26. Or the Gilligan's Island theme
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Diogenes2 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:45 AM
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29. Gilligan's Island theme
Are you saying you don't LIKE the Gilligan's Island theme? That's the last straw! :)
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:00 AM
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32. most of the romantics
and whoever wrote that plums poem.
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