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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:18 AM
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Could I get some feedback please?
I posted this to an e-mail list the other day (part of my New Years Resolution to do more promo stuff, as much as I hate it) and some guy came back with a whole big thing how the "Norse in Space" thing had already been done by some so-and-so author in the '70s and it was MUCH better, and how I've painted myself into a corner with regards to my storyline options and so on.

Now... This is what I posted. Does ANYONE get where he was from HERE? Or anywhere in the same neighborhood? Does anyone grasp how this premise would lend itself to "tying your hands" with regards to future storylines? I don't see it.

Okay...I'll admit I know he's an obnoxious twit. But I'm curious--how interesting in general is this promo?

Some twenty-five thousand years ago, a small group of survivors fled a world that had been destroyed by the heavy hand of the Cen invaders. Inexplicably changed by the virus that killed nearly everyone on their planet, these survivors fled to a far more primitive planet, one that would not attract Cen attention for eons to come.

A dispute broke out between them as to what their role should be in this brave new world. Some, most particularly the man mostly responsible for their escape, argued that they should try to blend in and let this faction of humanity evolve socially and politically in their own time. Others disagreed.

Some left the fold to become Gods. Others vanished into the population. Some even fled this Earth entirely.

Fast-forward 25,000 years...give or take a few. The Cen have found their refuge and only a handful of these immortals are willing to take on the challenge of fighting them again. Some fear failure, some are so caught up in their own lives that they can't be bothered. But it is Loki, the often impulsive, brilliant genetic scientist, who sets about changing the whole landscape of humanity to create allies in the coming war.

Only a few years later, the Earth that we know is changed completely. Not only has Loki created a couple different types of superhumans, he has restored the magical legacy stolen from us by the cunning Cen during the dark ages.

The battle begins.

In the course of the Infinity: Earth saga, we are introduced to vampires, lycanthropes, metahumans, parahumans, and mages--people who dedicate themselves to the preservation of everything about humanity worth preserving. Standing tall among these are the vampire Raven, the werewolf Ben Dalmas, the federal agent and mage Amanda Keening, and the fierce and powerful Jasmine Tashae.

The Cen War is coming, and with it the greatest change in the human condition since our ancestors climbed down out of the trees.


Fast-forward once again to the year 2260 or so. The War (the only war worthy of note anymore) is long over and despite the cost, victory is won. The old governments of Earth have collapsed, to be replaced by the powerful and enigmatic Confederation of Human Worlds. We're not alone in this universe, but the new human race born of the Cen War is quickly becoming a force with which to be reckoned. Great mageships ply the paths between the stars, defending Earth and its colonies from whatever threat may come.

In a small nightclub in San Francisco gathers a diverse group of paranormals and preternaturals. A family of sorts, but a family of heart and soul rather than of blood. In a world where the strange is commonplace, the Magitech Lounge is where things get even stranger.


A quick side-step into another realm entirely leads us to Starhaven, an artificial construct so large that it exists in its own universe. On Starhaven reside the Interworld Agencies--organizations dedicated to the protection of all sentient lives throughout the myriad of Earths. Except for the Cen, of course.


Full of fantasy, adventure, humor, and romance, the books of the Infinity Project will take the reader on a wild ride.

But you don't have to take MY word on it. Check out these reviews.

http://www.sajewilliams.com/reviews.htm
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:24 AM
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1. Sounds like an awesome series..
and I definitely don't think your "hands are tied".. there's an infinite number of ways the series could go..
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:40 AM
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2. Thanks...
Yeah, I've already taken it three different directions already. The original Infinity: Earth, Infinity: Prime, and Infinity: Empire. The variations are nearly infinite.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:46 AM
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3. sounds like you have an infinite number of ways to go --
to me but, what do I know.

~Tuesday Afternoon, Queen of Nothing~
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:51 AM
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4. Who did he say has done it? Poul Anderson?
I'm not aware of anything like that, but there's a lot of Poul Anderson I have not read.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:47 AM
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9. The name is Patricia Morrison.
I don't recognize it, myself.
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:03 AM
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5. You had me at..
In a small nightclub in San Francisco gathers a diverse group of paranormals and preternaturals.

Book marked for follow up.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:23 AM
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6. It sounds like a great series.
I'm a sucker for books that fuse myth and hard science, anyway, but this sounds like it could go in a large number of really interesting directions.

The only contemporary imagining of Norse mythical figures that I know of are the "Asgard" in the Stargate SG-1 series, but they are so different from the direction you're taking as to have little but the names in common.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:35 AM
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7. Oh hell you said "promo"! I kept looking for nekkidness...
...well this IS the Lounge!

btw: I like what I read so far. At first it reminded me a bit of Julian May's The Pliocene Exile series. Came out in the late '70s I think. In it, convicted political "criminals" from Earth's far future are exiled to our Pliocene era. Unbeknown to all, a society of aliens has set up shop back then as well. One faction of aliens just wants to "live and let live" while the other has set themselves up as "Gods". The exiled humans are turned into slaves with the main characters of the story forced to become Gods themselves in order to survive. I felt that this story was brilliant! Yours has great potential too I think. Others here have comented that it feels like something Poul Anderson could have written...I would take that as high praise indeed! Keep going with it Mythsaje.


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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:47 AM
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8. In all honesty, I have been influenced by THAT series.
Awesome work, in my opinion.

The author he mentioned was Patricia Morrison. I don't even recognize the name, myself.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:19 PM
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10. I've been looking for your books everywhere..
I have to go the used route. Nobody seems to want to get rid of your books. I'm down to checking little neighborhood bookstores now. Like a treasure hunt. :)

I think they sound wonderful... way off the beaten path.

I do have a problem with the second sentence of the second paragraph of your promo though... too many 'mosts'. that's all :)
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:39 PM
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12. Did you ask RetroLounge? He gave 29,999 of his books to ThomCat but the one that's left might be
the one you're looking for!:hi:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:03 PM
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11. Well, if strained to find similar examples...
We have the vague precedent of Apollo in ST:TOS' Who Mourns for Adonis?, but that was obviously a different pantheon.

Maybe he's feeling a resonance with Scientology's Thetans?

I believe that Marvel Comics has played at the concept of extraterrestrials mistaken for/posing as mythological entities, among them the Eternals of Titan, but that's kind of a stretch.

That's all I gots. None of them too similar to what you've proposed, as far as I can tell.

The only way I can see that you might paint yourself into a corner is if you succumb to the temptation to rattle off a checklist of mythological figures represented by the characters in the series. I think that would risk enslaving your plot to a simple laundry list, when ultimately you'd be better off developing the characters on their own terms, as you appear already to have done.


Tell that knucklehead to log off Second Life, move out of his parents' basement, and get a life.

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