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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:34 PM
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I'm devastated by the caucus results
Please cheer me up. If Edwards doesn't win, I think unions are finished in this country; if unions are finished, then our jobs aren't safe.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:44 PM
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1. our jobs are safe now?
i missed that memo. must have been out on unpaid sick leave.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:45 PM
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2. 239,000 - 114,000
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14125.html

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:46 PM
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3. I'm not - Guiliani finished dead last!
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!! You're dead fucker! DEAD! 9/11! :woohoo: :toast: :popcorn:
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:46 PM
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4. I'm devastated that Huckabee won Iowa.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.... :eyes: Fool me three times and I'm a freaking moron. Huckabee?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:49 PM
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5. he would have finished 4th in the Dem primary
According to the turnout totals.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:50 PM
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7. Ugh.
Creepy to know.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:09 PM
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14. Less Republicans voted for their #1 than Dems voted for their #3
This is a good thing. :)
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:47 PM
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18. It truly is.
But it's astonishing that Huckabee would be anybody's choice. He basically said that God will cause him to win. Haven't the repukes figured out that God has nothing to do with their politics?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:48 PM
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19. A point that the MSM are studiously avoiding. n/t
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:01 PM
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12. That's the best news of the night
If the GOP nominates that crazy-ass fool, we'll mop up in November. :thumbsup:
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:46 PM
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16. See, I'd agree with you if it weren't for the shrub's two terms.
If nothing else, they prove that good sense does not always prevail.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:16 PM
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15. I think Huckabee winning is actually a good thing.
The establishment corporatist Republicans have their knickers in a wad, and it sets up some nasty battles that'll divide Republicans and ensure that an unpopular choice will be nominated. I don't think Huck will do as well in NH.

However, if he's the nominee, I think he'll be toast anyway. I don't think blue America is going to go for a dumbass Jesus-rode-a-dinosaur throwback.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:57 PM
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21. I tend to agree. There are a lot more evangelicals in Iowa than
in NH. I think his win last night bodes well for us.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:50 PM
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6. I hear ya.
Edwards is the first politician in a long time who is willing to engage in class warfare. That's a brave position. I hope it catches fire with people who haven't been voting in their own interest.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:54 PM
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8. Here's what you need to focus on...
we beat Hillary. What Edwards said in the speech afterwards is true...change won, the status quo lost. While I'm clearly not an Obama supporter, I think he's a far, far cry from being the corporatist that Hillary is.

Also, it's not over. Edwards is still fighting. The discourse has changed. The media can no longer get away with their "Clinton! Obama! Clinton! Obama!" mantra. The top two are Obama and Edwards...which makes it a hell of a lot harder for them to marginalize Edwards.

Of course the results weren't exactly what we Edwards supporters wanted. But 2nd place isn't the end of the world and we learned a lot from the voter breakdown. If any top-tier candidate should be worried today, it's not Edwards. It's Clinton. The presumed/assumed nominee came in THIRD. That's cause for concern, second isn't.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:55 PM
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9. Sorry... i'm unable to comply with your request.
Due to the massive importance of healthcare and ending the occupation of Iraq ASAP, I can't say anything but that I hope Edwards does better in the rest of the primaries.


I can do this though.
:hug:
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:57 PM
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10. Iowa is just one state,
We don't have our primary until March.

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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:00 PM
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11. one State Does Not A Nominate
NH and i think MI is this Tuesday, and SC is soon

Edwards finished 2nd, and extremely close
Dont worry its not over yet
they need 2029 to get nominated
:hi:
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:04 PM
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13. Damn! I thought Gravel had it sewed up!!
But seriously, I have no doubt that any of the Democratic nominees will be better than what we've had for the past four years. I support Edwards because of his position on the side of working people, but I believe he's the best of three better alternatives.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:47 PM
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17. Well, unless he was planning on an Executive Order...
...we're still dependent on Congress to protect unions. Perhaps John would be willing to take Liddy Dole's seat?
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:51 PM
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20. Is this the freakin' LOUNGE?
Please, somebody turn this into a sex thread ...

Bake
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:57 PM
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22. What's so groundbreaking about Huckabee? He pandered to the bible thumpers
Like Republicants have for the last 27 years. Are we surprised that Jesus lifted him to the winner's column?
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:08 PM
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23. in my version of reality Edwards is just beginning his rise to power
I'm almost to the point where I've forgiven Al Gore for not running. I think if Edwards is sincere (and I believe he is) that he is exactly what we need to turn this sinking ship around. I hate being so emotionally tied up in this and my family mocks me for caring so much but we NEED a man we can put our hope and faith in. We need John Edwards to bring back the middle class and disrupt the status quo. If I was a praying woman that would be my prayer. The power belongs to us, the working class masses and not the fucking board members of Halliburton or members of the Bush Crime Family. It's either Edwards or a revolution. I'd much prefer Edwards because I'm not strong enough to fight a revolution.

Maybe I"m foolish and naive (and definitely sleep deprived and whiskey impaired) maybe Edwards is yanking our chains but in my heart I believe he really does have the interests of the working man at heart and my hopes and dreams are invested in the thought that he will bring us out of this chaos and restore the America I always thought we lived in. I listen to him and I hear sincerity. I wish I could afford to donate more than just a minimal amount to his campaign. I believe in him and his dream for the American middle class.

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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:10 PM
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24. Lisa, I agree with you
Edwards IS the only answer right now.

Don't be depressed though- he did not "lose" by much and I am praying people WAKE THE FUCK UP and realize who the best candidate is.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:11 PM
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25. Thanks! I do feel a little cheered up.

:hi:
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