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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:04 PM
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The tale of a lesbian working in a decidedly male world.
This story might offend some women, specifically lesbians. It didn't offend me then and it doesn't offend me now -- sorry. :shrug:

Back home in Southern California, I worked in adult recreational slow-pitch softball leagues for about ten years. Started as a computer scorekeeper, then became an umpire, then a tournament and league director. It was relatively a low-paying job (scorekeeping was perfect for students) but one could do very well as a league director if one worked a lot of weekend tournaments. I worked mostly with hyper-hormonal "super-jock" type men, legends in their own minds, men in their mid-20s to mid-30s. They were all basically good guys and I was one of the very few women.

While I was earning my living thus, I began the process of coming out of the closet. Now, because I knew the game inside-out, was a better umpire than many of the guys, could stand up to any ballplayer pissed off about some "bullshit" call, and could play damn well myself, the guys I worked with all naturally assumed I was a lesbian. :eyes: But they never said anything to me until I started coming out.

It took a few years, but by the time I was fully out I realized that they didn't care. I'm not the type who's attractive to most men, so I escaped most of the "you just need a good **** to loosen you up" bullshit. (Yeah, they were nice, but that wouldn't have stopped them from hitting on me if I were gorgeous.) All in all, they were cool.

Everyone had to work late one night to prepare for a huge Labor Day tournament. The guys would leave the office in twos & threes every couple of hours for more pizza or chips & beer. After one such trip, two of the guys also brought back four packs of baseball cards and laid them all out on one of the tables. I was in the corner working on the computer, trying to get done & get out of there. But I was distracted by their loud chatter around the table with the cards on it -- and it didn't really sound like they were talking about baseball cards.

I got up for a stretch and to go over and see what they were so excited about. It wasn't baseball cards.

It seems Playboy had hit upon this grand idea of putting its "playmates" on cards and packaging them like baseball cards. (I didn't ask where the stick of gum was.) I took one glance, realized what it was, and turned around & went back to work.

They were all soooo disappointed! They yelled at me to come back. They said lascivious things that I didn't mind because we'd all worked together so long, we were buds, and they were drunk.

They kept leering over the cards, and chattering over who had the best rack. Finally they narrowed it down to two and, more drunk now, a couple of them started arguing about it. Thankfully I was done w/ my work. I got my stuff and started to leave and one of them said, "Hey, Kim, come over here!" I said, "Guys, I don't want to look at those..." and they said, "no, no, no, no, we just want you to break the tie!"

What to do? I wasn't offended, but I didn't want to give them the uniquely masculine, weird thrill of watching a woman looking at naked women.

But finally I just thought, "what the hell?" I went over, took a quick look at the two finalists, picked up one card, put it in my pocket, and left. I could hear them howling all the way out to my car.

Ahh.... those were the days. ;)
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southerngirlwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:09 PM
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1. great story!
That's awesome. You are an inspiration -- what quick thinking! :-)
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:10 PM
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2. Funny story
I still think those guys were low class, though. Call me old fashioned, but I was raised not to behave that way around women no matter what their sexual orientation.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:16 PM
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3. Obviously, you're one of the guys.
I don't know what it is, but most guys are more tolerant of gay women than straight women are on gay men. Hanging out and all, with no chance of sex.

I'm I wrong this, or is this right?

Personally, when I see a guy get pissed off at a lesbian for not hooking up with him, I think that the guy has some serious issues. There are plenty of straight women out there, right?
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 09:10 AM
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7. more tolerant?
I don't know if straight women are less tolerant of gay men than straight men are of lesbians.

I DO know that straight men are more tolerant of lesbians than they are of gay men, though. My sweet brother-in-law is a prime example, but I won't elaborate here.

I think what you may be referring to is when a straight woman finds out some guy she's sweet on is gay -- ??

All the straight women I know, with the exception of my stepmother, have no problem with any gay people.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 09:17 AM
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9. I love hanging out with my gay male friends--I'm a straight, married,
femme, btw!

Girl's night out is not complete without at least one of them.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:18 PM
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4. I think you handled that pretty well!
:thumbsup:
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:23 PM
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5. That don't offend me
I wish I had the wits to pull that one off.
I envy you sister!
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:24 PM
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6. I know it sounds weird
But it seems to me like they accepted you. I don't know what they were howling about but my suspision is it was not about you but about the playmates.

I think you had a good thing there. Thanks for the story. :)
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 09:36 AM
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10. Oh, yeah, I knew they accepted me.
Whether for myself or for having a dyke friend as a status symbol didn't matter to me. They gave me no shit, either for my abilities or my orientation, and that's what mattered.

And "howling" = uproarious laughter. :7
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 09:15 AM
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8. Hah! Love it! nt
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:36 AM
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11. That was a great story, Bertha
Edited on Fri Feb-06-04 10:36 AM by YellowRubberDuckie
I love it that you have a sense of humor. There are so many people out there that don't.
Duckie
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