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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 08:20 PM
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Hate mailer has replied......
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 08:20 PM by Cannikin
submit_by = 'PALavins@aol.com'
feedback = You scumbag faggots must all get AIDS. Go to France where they love to eat each others ass all day and not go to work.

"You have identified the wrong person. I never sent the e-mail that you identified. "


So I replied...I beg to differ...SOMEONE on your accound did. And it has been submitted to abuse@aol.com by more than one person. If it was in fact not you, I'd report that your account was hacked.


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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=719538&mesg_id=719538
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 08:42 PM
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1. I wish I had seen the earlier thread
I know this person. Someone must have hacked her email account.
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 08:52 PM
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2. What a crappy email.
FYI, I've been told that there is software out there that can 'fake' the originating email address. But if it's legit, the admin at AWOL, I mean, AOL will be able to track it.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 08:56 PM
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3. I hope thats the case.
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 08:58 PM by Cannikin
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:01 PM
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4. Yep, its pretty easy to fake addies
Plenty of anon remail sites out there too. But as this one does seem to link up to an individual it is more likely it was them or someone on their computer. Anon remailers usually dump you into a blank addie.
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:09 PM
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5. Let me get this straight...
Does this mean that if I move to France, I can eat ass all day, and not have to work?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:21 PM
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6. Did some digging
I have found someone posting with an Email addie of PALavins@aol.com and they seem consistantly antibush and antirepuke. They may be targeted as well. They certainly do not fit a homophobe profile. Find out more about this individual before you start flaming away. They may be as much a victim as you are.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:45 PM
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9. Could very well be...
...in which case, all AOL has to do is check its own server logs, and if this person's account has been hacked, he/she hasn't a thing to worry about.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:46 PM
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10. Yes but in the mean time
We are generating a lot of hate for this person. If it turns out to be illplaced we will have done harm. Till this gets confirmed I advise realing in the troops.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:41 PM
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7. I don't buy the cop-out...
My feedback form collects the IP address of the sender:

On 2004-02-02 at 04:45:43,
The following information was submitted:
From Host: 64.12.96.137
name = Paul
submit_by = 'PALavins@aol.com'

Search results for: 64.12.96.137

OrgName: America Online, Inc.
OrgID: AMERIC-158
Address: 10600 Infantry Ridge Road
City: Manassas
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 20109
Country: US
NetRange: 64.12.0.0 - 64.12.255.255
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:44 PM
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8. Email addresses can be faked.
I did some searching on the net. His address shows up in some forums and he seems very antibush and even refs Buzzflash and other left wing sources as positive research sites. I found nothing homophobic associated with his name.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:55 PM
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12. Trust me, I know this person.
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 09:56 PM by madmax
And she does not live in VA. She drove all the right-wing nuts crazy on WP Forum. We were posters there all through the 2000 Campaign and after the selection. She is a die hard Democrat and a liberal. She HATES bush, his father, and the entire right wing cabal with a passion.

We also correspond privately. She's being targeted by some wing-nut. I've written to her tonight and she has reported this situation to AOL.

:hi:
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:05 PM
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20. And you haven't converted her...
...to the Church of DU?? madmax, I'm shocked! :D

Well, well, this gets more interesting by the minute. I would love to track down the wingnut!

Btw, all AOL traffic goes through their Virginia hub, no matter where you are in the world. (Australia included, if I remember correctly -- is that right, foreigncorrespondent?)
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:11 PM
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21. Sounds right to me. (n/t)
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:47 PM
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22. LOL she rather fight than preach to the choir
DU is like being in the womb...safe and warm. PA is out there taking names and kicking ass ;)
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:49 PM
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11. I found something...
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 09:56 PM by Cannikin
submit_by = 'PALavins@aol.com'
feedback = You scumbag faggots must all get AIDS. Go to France where they love to eat each others ass all day and not go to work.

I'm confused, Madmax said:

"I know this person. Someone must have hacked her email account."

And then in your last post you said:

"I found nothing homophobic associated with his name."

Is this a man or a woman? Or do we know...or does it matter?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:55 PM
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13. Female n/t
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:57 PM
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14. I tried to IM her to apologize if there was a mistake...
It showed she was on, but when I hit send it said she wasnt available.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:00 PM
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16. She may be upset about this...not at you or DU
But, whoever did this to her will be sorry. She's a tough cookie ;)

Hey Cannikin - you did nothing wrong.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:01 PM
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17. Well...be sure to let me know if you find out who REALLY did it!
And I will flame them twice as hard!
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:03 PM
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19. Will do
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:59 PM
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15. Female
The hacker may have assumed male and signed the name Paul. Refs I found in other forums suggest the name Pat. Gender neutral so I assumed male. Madmax knows her first hand so go with his assesment.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 10:02 PM
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18. Right...or
Edited on Thu Feb-05-04 10:05 PM by madmax
PAL without the U...:shrug: who knows how those warped minds work.
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 11:31 PM
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23. The problem might be *your* mail server.
Some mail servers don't attempt to backward check the validity of the sending server, or user.

If you have a mail server like that, I can forge an email and make it look like it came from GeorgeShrub@whitehouse.com

I know nothing about your mail server, just thought I'd throw that out as a possibility you may want to check into as well if you hadn't already.
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