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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:50 PM
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OK I have to ask (kid rock???)
I watched that half time show like millions of people. The Jackson thing was obviously a planned stunt. I'm not a prude and I despise puritanism and hypocrisy. But damn folks! Wasn't that halftime show just the most vulgar, ugly, classless piece of crap you've ever had to sit through?

I didn't experience a moment of enjoyment from start to finish. OK Aerosmith tried to bring a little class to the event, but they were overwhelmed by white-trash chic, gangsta macho, and whatever Jackson and Timberlake appeal to in the public psyche -- I can't imagine.

The whole thing seemed produced by Beevis and (hehehe) Butthead. Is this America now? Is this the level of national culture we're selling to the world? If so, we're doomed.

Ok now my real question: What's the demographic on the fans of this Kid Rock twit exactly? Who rushes out and buys this no-talent assbag's CDs? Who made Kid Rock celebrity enough to crawl out from under his "rock" to get up and strut his utterly insubstantial stuff around the stage at the damn Superbowl????

Can't we do better in this country? Or is it all vulgar ghetto kitch from here on out now.

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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:53 PM
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1. I have no idea
I saw this clown live, before he had a record contract, and thought, okay, another rap-rocker, this time with long hair and a cowboy hat.

Will it sell? I thought not, but then again, I'm not an A&R Rep, I have some taste.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:55 PM
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2. I Think Kid Is Over
He had his 15 minutes, so you won't have him to kick around much longer.

I didn't find the halftime show vulgar. Low rent, yes. Vulgar no.

What i found it was tedious, dull, and boring! It was not entertaining in the least. I could not wait for it to be over and for the game to resume, and i find music more important to me than football. So, that should tell you something.
The Professor
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afraid_of_the_dark Donating Member (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:57 PM
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3. Pam Anderson liked him for a while...
but seriously, the only people that I know who liked him were self-proclaimed (i.e., it's not ME putting the label on them, but rather they say this about themselves so DON'T flame me for this) "white trash."
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:59 PM
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4. Um, its football
not Opera. I don't recall football ever being equated with high class. You got guys running around on a field grunting and grabbing their crotches. Its the ultimate in machismo. Class? Just cuz the players are rich doesn't make them socialites.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:18 PM
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8. I'm not asking for opera
I'm not asking for opera. This is the superbowl. It's spectacle! It SHOULD be highly produced and eye-catching. It should dazzle, not make me grimace and say WTF. When I use the word "vulgar" I mean the lowest common denominator. When there are all the choices in the world, why put together such a mish-mosh of the most crass popular culture?

Opera would be fun if it was rock opera with a space theme or something else equally accessible to everyone else on the planet who's watching. With all that money, couldn't there be just a little more competence and creativity involved in making choices for that event?

Or maybe your an apologist for crap entertainment???

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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:25 PM
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10. Not an apologist
I despise what has happened to the airwaves. I do not watch TV and only heard about the boobtacular via the net.

I do pay interest to the ads run during the game and even they were lackluster. The conglomerates don't have to try anymore. They have won. They have taken our airwaves away from us and can spray paint our eyeballs with any old crud and we have to sit there and take it. Where you going to run to. They have decimated the populations ability to enetertain itself. They are lowering the IQ and critical thinking skills of the population. They decide what you will watch. The real issue of the day was the fact that Ms Jacksons boob was not on their script. Everything else was.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:09 PM
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5. Arrested Development - "Kid" Rock
Edited on Wed Feb-04-04 03:10 PM by supernova
Problem is, here's a guy in his... what, late 30s? selling himself as "Kid". :eyes: "Kid" you ain't foolin' nobody.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:10 PM
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6. They are competing with The Man Show and Jackass for audience share.
What do you expect?

Look at the rest of network TV. The most popular shows are simulated reality shows and 'World's Most Dangerous Police Chases'. Thousands of people actually pay $20 to watch WWF on pay-per-view.

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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:13 PM
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7. Entertainment
Dumping women in bikinis into a vat of leeches passes as entertainment these days. Have you seen what they are showing out there? We have allowed a wonderful tool to be eroded by Corporate interest. Those are our airwaves being fouled by their nonsense. Take the medium back.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:24 PM
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9. Yeah. I didn't think you were an apologist.
:hi:
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:29 PM
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11. O, Diddy you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind.
Hey Diddy.

Sorry.

:dunce:
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:31 PM
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12. not even original
It's the cult of "Me!"

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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:33 PM
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14. plus he was dancing like Monty's (from Letterman) old boyfriend
doing the shoulder shrug.

I laugh to keep from crying.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:32 PM
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13. P. Diddy rode a corpse to fame, and Sting helped him
n/t
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:41 PM
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16. Yep.
I remember that.
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brainwashed_youth Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:33 PM
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15. I like Kid Rock
Ya, he's an egotistical braggart, but he's very likable and his music is pretty cool.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:30 PM
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18. BW-Youth -- you can do a whole lot better
You can do a whole lot better -- and a WHOLE lot cooler. Try Jazz for starters. There's an entire American tradition there. Men and women, black and white (mostly black) musicians who lived the life and played the music -- the Jazz people invented "cool". And I'm not saying that as hype. It's literally the truth. They started Cool.

You're entitled to your opinion of course, but Kid Rock did nothing cool up there. He came off as just another strutting infantile celebrity without a clue.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:57 PM
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17. If the producers want a family show
they should book family-friendly acts.

Here's a good list of folks who are likely to keep it clean:

Aretha Franklin
Elton John
Bare Naked Ladies
Eric Clapton
The Beach Boys
Bette Midler
Lenny Kravitz
Bonnie Raitt
REM
B.B. King
Sting
Paul McCartney
Jewel
Jimmy Buffet
Billy Joel
Bruce Springsteen
Dixie Chicks
Rod Stewart
Train
Cyndi Lauper
Dave Matthews Band
Melissa Etheridge
Neil Diamond
No Doubt
Seal
Stevie Wonder


C'mon folks... jump right in here... add your suggestion







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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:35 PM
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19. Good List, Millie!
You've got a broad range of ages, broad range of styles, and almost all Americans. Why couldn't that list be used as the starting point and produce a big spectacular around first: Talent! Then, class.

It's worth a try. It couldn't be more boring than the halftime show which just saw.
The Professor
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:43 PM
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20. I Vote for the Chix!
Wouldn't it be great to have them on the halftime next year, after all the crap they put up with for having the courage to tell the truth?

btw--wasn't Kid Rock in on the Bring on the War, Support Bush or Be Called Unpatriotic brigade?
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 05:09 PM
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23. Good list
I would rather listen to ANY of those people (even the Dixie Chicks, but that's just cuz I dislike country)

My suggestion: maybe U2. :shrug:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:48 PM
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21. Have we forgotten the ultimate lowering of the bar? ---El Vez
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jimbo fett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 05:06 PM
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22. Don't diss El Vez. Have you seen him live? Fun, kitschy-campy, energetic.
No he ain't Mozart but he's a damn good live entertainer.
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 05:36 PM
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24. Kid Rock has been a commercial spokesman
for the NFL all season long. Not too surprising that he was on the halftime special.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 05:39 PM
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25. Our crass consermer driven society is tearing at the very fabric of our
humanity
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