Latest hate mail (WARNING: crude, anti-gay profanity)

[Sapphocrat]

I feel compelled to share this as a reminder that this sort of abuse is all too common for those of us who run openly-gay Web sites:

On 2004-02-02 at 04:45:43,
The following information was submitted:
From Host: 64.12.96.137
name = Paul
submit_by = '[e-mail]'
feedback = You scumbag faggots must all get AIDS. Go to France where they love to eat each others ass all day and not go to work.

George W Bush four more in 04!!

Supporting a Constitutional Amendment to ban homosexuality for ever in the USA

Well, at least we're in good company with Margaret Cho.

[anti_shrub]

1. What's sadder

Is that since he uses AOL he probably had to have someone type his email for him.......

[Fenris]

2. Man, France sounds great, and I'm not even gay!

Where do I sign up?!

:D

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

21. What I don't get...

If you're eating someone's ass all day, what wine do you serve?

[Fenris]

24. Chateneuf de Pape

Although, I'd want a white if it was a hot day.

[mitchum]

23. LOL!

[NightTrain]

3. As one who has befriended many GLBTs, as well as...

...having made a number of friends in Quebec, I find that e-mail revolting in more ways than one.

Much love and respect to you, Sapphocrat! :hug:

[Sapphocrat]

30. Thank you, NightTrain...

You are a real sweetheart. :):):)

And ya make me remember why some of my best friends are straight. ;)


On edit: Too-fast fingers dropped a line.

[Gringo]

4. I get stuff like that on Yahoo boards all the time

and I'm not even gay (the mere fact taht I list my residence as San Francisco gets me a lot of crap) It doesn't really faze me at all, but I guess it feels different if you actually are gay... Online insults from morons in cyberspace are pretty meaningless, really, though.

[parkia00]

14. Hey I get that too!

I'm from SF so I must be gay! You vile ungodly creature you will rot in hell (_@$*_@$ blah blah blubber blah!

:crazy:

Freepers remind me of the seagull characters in Pixar's animated cartoon Finding Nemo.

Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine!

[Lostmessage]

5. Can someone trace this BS

:shrug:

[camero]

6. Nice that he puts his ISP up

counterattack..hehe. :) Nah, I wouldn't do that.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

7. Ignorance is an awful disease...

Too bad it affects the afflicted less than his/her victims.

[Rowdyboy]

8. Many thanks to you, Sappho

for fighting for all of us. I lack the strength of character to tolerate the abuse that you do.

[Sapphocrat]

31. But you DO fight, Rowdy! ...

You're always right there when you're needed. Granted, debating on DU isn't like expressing the joy of gay love in a naked interpretive dance at a Christian Coalition convention, but it can get pretty dicey around here sometimes.

That you hang in there, and you hang tough -- that's strength of character in my book. I have all the respect in the world for you.

And anyway, hate mail like this one doesn't really roll off my back, either. I've been getting stuff like this for years, and it still hurts. Maybe I put up with it just because I'm so damned stubborn. :)

[bubblesby2002]

9. It's amazing isn't it.....

that in this year of 2004 there are people who are so illeducated that they can spout crud like this.

[Bundbuster]

10. Well, at least the sub-human admits that

bushCorp is the perfect place for brainless, murderous xenophobes.

QUESTION - How would one BAN homosexuality in America? oh, wait...ship 'em off to quarantine, like some of the RayGun cretins called for with PWA's in the early/mid '80's.

BTW - bushCorp's restriction against all U.S. 3rd-world AIDS funding going to any country or health agency which promotes sex education, condom use & training, family planning, or abortion will be viewed by history as:

THE MOST EVIL AND GLOBALLY DESTRUCTIVE ACT by this Junta. Millions will die because the cowering chimp kisses the religious reich's ass. An even more destructive and evil act than wars-for-lies. I piss and puke on you, dubya, you slimy, spineless, power-crazed, hypocritical, greedy Manifest Destiny sack of shit.

*edited for proper grammar and spelling.

[Djinn]

11. what is their problem

you'd have to assume freaks like this one aren't hugely christian what with the "i hope you get a disease" bit so it's not a religious thing - why does he and others like him care who anyone else sleeps with? I realise I'm asking the wrong people but I really really don't understand this sort of completely irrational and clearly overwhelming hatred - what sort of no-life nob-end goes searching for websites only to send abuse???? :wtf:

[foreigncorrespondent]

12. what sort of no-life nob-end goes searching for websites...

...only to send abuse????

People with wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much time on their hands, from the lack of life they obviously don't have.

[TrogL]

13. They're everywhere

I'm on several LGBT boards and they're an endless nuisance.

At one point, one LGBT board became the semi-official hangout for the KKK after they got kicked off another board.

[Sapphocrat]

32. And the chatrooms!

I haven't been in an AOL chatroom for a couple of years, but if they're anything like I remember, any room with the word "Lesbian" in the name is, naturally, a huge draw for such troglodytes. When they weren't damning us to hell, they were trying to "save" us, or "convert" us -- or both.

Ask foreigncorrespondent about her online stalker who, if I understood his "mission," wanted to show her "agape love" through the magic of hetero sex. Eh, somebody definitely got his wires crossed there! LOL

[Lydia Leftcoast]

35. A radio announcer acquaintance of mine

who used to get phone and e-mail stalkers because of her alluring voice, referred to them as "losers who live in their mother's basement."

[brainwashed_youth]

15. sounds like Michael Savage

Congrats!! You just got mail from Michael Savage:P

[Sapphocrat]

33. Would that it were Savage Weiner!

The day I catch the attention of a psychotic little pissant with big Nielsen ratings, I'll know I've done something right! LOL

[brainwashed_youth]

16. sounds like Michael Savage

Congrats!! You just got mail from Michael Savage:P

[Bertha Venation]

17. I just sent the guy an email.

I'll let you know if I get a reply.

What an ignorant prick.

Sappho, how did you wind up getting this drivel? Do you have a web site?

Edit: Okay, that was a stupid question, since you wrote "for those of us who run openly-gay Web sites." What's your site? Is it the blog in your sig line?

Gawd.... Bertha catches up. Film at eleven. :eyes:

[Sapphocrat]

34. If his account isn't cut off, you just may...

...receive a reply! I hope he does get it; I imagine a head-on confrontation with Bertha would make him wet his pants. :D

Yep, I own and/or maintain a few sites that are obviously queer-as-folk. This drivel, I can tell, came from the feedback page of one of my more ambitious projects (which is in desperate need of updating and overhauling) -- http://www.GoQueer.com

Curiously, I get about an equal amount of angry/borderline hate mail about my daily Twisted History widget at http://www.amuseyourself.com (which isn't a "gay site" so much as it is a place for me to have some mindless fun). One guy was pissed at the first sign of any gay-oriented events in the Twisted History listing for a particular day (among other things, he told me to keep my disgusting, perverted "lifestyle" to myself, and stop trying to "infect" the rest of the world) ... Another guy was outraged when I referred to Ken Starr as "Independent Weasel" ... Another took me to task most recently for using the word "botched" in relation to the Iraq invasion; his lengthy tirade boiled down to "anti-Americans" like me being directly responsible for the deaths of our troops in Iraq.

Uh... What country is this again? I don't recognize it at times.

[Bertha Venation]

47. Cool.

Thanks. I haven't rec'd a reply, but neither have I rec'd anything from Daemon. I'll post whatever results here.

Thanks for posting your sites. I'll check them out when I have time.

:hug:

[Kamika]

18. holycrap im moving to France

well maybe :p

[TheMightyFavog]

19. It's assclowns like this

who really make me seriously consider breaking out the old Louisville Slugger.

[Djinn]

22. cricket bat's work better

and make a very pleasing "thunk" sound!

On edit: Just read your post about yourself and Sappho - crappy situation, a friend has just got married to a american guy she met while travelling - they spent 6 or so years flying backwards and forwards and trying to decide who's country to live in, not an easy choice as both were close to their families, they've now settled on Australia. So I just wanted to say hang in there to you and Sapphocrat from a fellow Melbournian

[Sapphocrat]

36. Thanks, Djinn...

We can use the positive vibes!

And, um, yeah, I will try to drop phrases like "positive vibes" from my lexicon before I settle down there. :D

[foreigncorrespondent]

42. Djinn...

...where abouts in Melbourne are you, my friend? I'm pretty close to Chelsea.

And thank you for your wonderful words of encouragement. It helps both Sappho and I to know, there are people in both our countries supporting our efforts to be together. :)

[Djinn]

49. Preston

sometimes in bad moments known as DePreston!

[kmla]

20. If ignorance is bliss, this dumbass is one of the happiest

idiots walking on the face of the earth.

Don't bother trying to respond to him, though - he's too busy trolling at the family reunion for his next wife...

[Duncan Grant]

25. Paul Lavins - Please come out, travel to France, and enjoy.

Geez, and I thought 12 million children living in poverty was offensive. :shrug: :eyes:

[LTR]

26. Forward the email to AOL

send it to [e-mail]

This is a terroristic threat. Or you can make it out to be.

I'm sure this is against AOL's rules, as I know they have many conduct standards in their little online gated community.

If that doesn't work, tell 'em it's spam.

[Sapphocrat]

37. Done and done.

And cc:'d to [e-mail], which, IIRC, is AOL's internal spam-processing system. Sometimes that gets a quicker response.

Oh, yes, I can almost hear the doors creaking shut on this clown's account. Account cancellation... Mmmmmm!

[EV1Ltimm]

27. All this "ass eating"...

I'm sure mule meat is pretty gamey. You'd probably have to marinate it for a while.

[HEyHEY]

28. Jeez that's the bes t Dem endorsment ever

Make that a sticker and put it on your car

[TXlib]

29. I'm guessing he's still in high school

[Cannikin]

38. Anyone besides me reply to him?

Or am I the only fool?

[foreigncorrespondent]

41. Nope!

I also sent the brainless idiot an email:

Re: Feedback

Hi,

I understand you wrote some rather nasty comments to my partner? Don't remember? Let me refresh your mind:

> You scumbag faggots must all get AIDS. Go to France where they love
> to eat each others ass all day and not go to work.

> George W Bush four more in 04!!

> Supporting a Constitutional Amendment to ban homosexuality for
> ever in the USA

Hmmm! Do you actually have an intelligent thought in your mind? Because this diatribe you sent my partner isn't exactly intelligent is it? All you republican scum bags must follow after that thing you call a pResident, in the brains department. He certainly doesn't have an intelligent thing to say either.

As for four more years of that insane idiot, if you really love the world (which I happen to do), then you might reconsider your thoughts on him. Look at how he led, not just your nation but my nation (Australia), and the mother country (for you, who happens to be a simpleton, that means the United Kingdom) to a war based on lies, just for oil. Do you realize, that the 3000 deaths on 9/11, and further the deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq have all been for oil? How do you feel knowing your pResident gave the order to send your troops to Iraq on a lie, and since then, there have been over 500 (yes that is right buddy, 500) of your nations soliers killed, just for oil? Wow! If you support that, then you obviously have no pride for your nation, or her people.

As for us so called "faggots" as you termed it, you better get used to us buddy, because we are gonna be getting married in Massachusetts! Thanks to the supreme court who realizes unlike your dopey pResident, and yourself, that it is actually against the constitution to keep loving and committed couples from marrying, just because they happen to be same sex. By the way, women aren't exactly faggots, but you know what? As a dyke I am happy to be put in the same class as my gay brothers. In fact, I consider it an honor!

Hmmm! And I was always lead to believe that the United States was full of intelligent beings, obviously I have been lead down the wrong path with that little assumption, after all, anyone who would support a group of war mongering, hateful, bigoted idiots (i.e: the republican party) obviously isn't at all intelligent.

Next time you want to insult someone buddy, try getting a brain first.

You moronic piece of shit!

Signed me

The Aussie with a hell of a lot more brain matter in my little pinkie, than you will ever have in your entire life!

[TXlib]

44. Please post his reply, when you get it!

[foreigncorrespondent]

52. He replied!

Here is what the little dirty cop out decided to send back!

To:
Subject: Re: Feedback
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:46:59 EST

> You have sent your e-mail to the
> wrong person. I support the
> comments that you have made
> about the scumbag George W. Bush.

Hmmmm! I guess my words must have gotten to him!

[terrya]

39. Isn't it just emotionally exhausting to hate all the time?

I mean, I've read this "all faggots should die of AIDS" stuff and it gets so damned depressing. This guy sounds exactly like Fred Phelps...who spends what seems like every waking moment hating gay people. Who have done no harm to people like Fred Phelps and this Paul guy.

I just don't understand homophobia. And I suppose I never will.

Terry

[ProfessorGAC]

40. Sorry, Terry, But No!

The emotional energy is consumed by the effort to repress any tendency to hate.

Hate and violence are both among the most base emotions. They are easy to generate and hard to repress. It takes thought, effort, and tolerance to repress the natural feelings of loathing and hate.

The more simple minded one is, the easier it is to just stay in a state of hatred. It actually requires significantly less effort than keeping an open mind, learning something, processing the information and reaching new conclusions.

I understand your point completely, and you'd think you'd be right about that. Unfortunately, it's just easier to hate what you don't understand, than it is to actually understand it.
The Professor

[CanuckAmok]

43. smeone should start a site called:

www.stupid-RWmorans-sound-off.com, or something like that, which would consist of nothing but a guestbook. My bet is that it would fill up instantly with statements like the one from your friend there...these people just love to spew for an audience. Plus, they don't ever seem to have a sense of irony, so they wouldn't get the fact that such a site exists solely to advertise their stupidity.

By the way, I've been to parts of France, and everybody was just eating cheese. Obviously, I need to change travel agents.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

45. It's important to print their names and email addresses

anyone that spews so much hate deserves to be spammed. I think someone wrote Bob Boudelang and gave his work email addy, which was the state of West Virginia. Dumbasses.

[Interrobang]

46. Wow, you're made of stronger stuff than I, Sapphocrat...

I used to get this kind of shit verbally all the time in High School (note that I'm 80% straight and engaged to a man -- but I do dress kindasorta butch), so getting it through a website would probably twist my dials to 11.

You did the right thing by reporting it. (Personally, I *love* getting morons' <or morans'> Internet accounts terminated... ;-) )

[beyurslf]

48. Banning gays from the US?

Think of what we might have lost:

James Baldwin
Andrea Dworkin
J Edgar Hoover
Janis Joplin
Billie Jean King
Harvey Milk
JOhnathon Larson


Just to name a few...

[foreigncorrespondent]

50. Yeah...

...but people like Sappho's latest hate mail idiot are just too bloody stupid to realize what would be lost, because they are so damned blind from their bigotry.

[Cannikin]

51. HE REPLIED!!!!!!

submit_by = '[e-mail]'
feedback = You scumbag faggots must all get AIDS. Go to France where they love to eat each others ass all day and not go to work.

"You have identified the wrong person. I never sent the e-mail that you identified. "


So I replied...I beg to differ...SOMEONE on your accound did. And it has been submitted to [e-mail] by more than one person. If it was in fact not you, I'd report that your account was hacked.

[Cannikin]

53. kick

[Az]

54. I did some digging

I found some posts in various forums with this guys email addie. They have been consistantly antibush, antirepuke, and no mention of any homophobic tendencies. I suspect he is being targeted by the sender of the hate mail by forcing his address into their return address thus faking the source of the email. Ease up on this guy. Sounds like he is a victim.

[Cannikin]

55. Let us know if you find 'the real killer'