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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:49 PM
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Who else is getting this weird, creepy spam? (LONG)
Normally, I'd let Mailwasher take care of this and bounce it back, but this was just too weird not to keep.

Maybe one of you psych students out there will find this interesting. If nothing else, it'll remind you how disturbed some people really are.

The first message came into my inbox on January 8, 2004 (I'm cc'd in along with about 50 other addressees, many of whom I recognize as gay & lesbian net denizens and established gay/lesbian businesses):
I'm an Indian Immigrant and this old man has been stalking me since the September 911 attacks.. He put LSD in my Sprite at Chardees Dinner and Cocktails in Wilton Manors, Florida 33314. I made a police report, but the cops keep concealing his identity and they won't investigate him. I sent sketches of him all over to inform people. Now we find out he's a retired cop who is a Mafia Godfather. Charles (last name dedacted) is either one of his aliases or his real name. All the police in Wilton Manors conceal his identity. They would not investigate the police report. Chuck put a 4 inch laceration on my face and then stalked me at the hospital in Hollywood, FL. Joe Dimaggios Childrens Hospital. I was there to get stiches taken out of my eyelid. Chuck parked his car in front of the emergency room entrance to laugh at my scars. We never went anywhere together, I don't know what this obsession is. The other owner of Chardees was Tony Dee, he mysteriously disappeared. His body was never found. I'm telling everyone about it. They don't want people to know there is an unsolved murder from Chardees. He was the other owner of Chardees, "Charly and Tony Dees". Chuck is the surviving owner. The cops let him drug people there.

Chuck showed up at 2 of my telemarketing jobs and scared me away. Chardees is a hideout for Irish Mafia from Boston. He uses different cars to follow me. I think he takes cars from Wilton Manors Police Station. Chuck tried to kill me and my family with some kind of asphixiating gas through the window in 2002. I called the police. I saw Chuck within 100 yards of my house in disguise not 30 minutes before this. In my backyard, there was a figure behind the Mango tree. The fire department took my heartrate at 98 beats per minute. They monitored my heartrate all night with an ElectroCardioGram. My family sold the house and moved. Chuck makes Indian families hide and move from their houses. They pulled me out of FIU because Chuck kept stalking me. I was a senior in Computer Science. He found out I have a new 2002 Mustang and that I just received an A in Physics 1 and Physics 11. Then Chuck put LSD in my drink. Chuck has been rubbing ecstasy on my car door handle when I parked in the Alibi parking lot. As soon as I touch the car door, my heart starts to race, then an immediate erection. He's sick. He rubs ecstasy on peoples arms. It's a gel form. He puts it on his lips and kisses people. Then they go and crash their cars. It makes you stupid and absent minded...look how stupid it has made Chuck. He is walking evidence. When he first put LSD in my drink, he followed me and tried to capture my car accident on his camcorder. I guess so he could laugh at it with his friends.

Attached is Chucks picture. He is a disgrace to every cop in this country. There are people in uniform dying right now to protect us, and you let these old people spray insecticide in my face in my own backyard and show up at my job with his face all swollen like he's been drinking Vodca all night. His other Mafia friends follow me around. I'm appealing to Muslim Activist groups next. They specialize in dealing with people like Chuck. Chuck has these voices that they keep transmitting into my home and my car. I don't know how Chuck got me to start hearing his voice. The first time I heard it was when I came home from getting my stiches. He gives you scars and then tries to act like he feels sorry in front of other people. You know how sick he is, he has the cops helping him to use these voices to harass and intimidate people with. Chuck is FBI. By the way, Chucks friends all wear full face disguises also. Chuck comes right into Chardees in one of his full face disguises. It's 2209 Wilton Drive, Wilton Manors, FL 33314. He put drugs in my Sprite. I spit half of this giant bar tablet into my hand after swallowing the other half. I guess I would have become twice as crazy if I swallowed the whole thing.

Chuck stared at me and put a sterile gauge over his right eye. Then he gave me an accident where I almost lost my right eye. Chuck stole my teeth pattern and had his dentist put it in his mouth so he could smile at me and ultimately have my teeth knocked out.. I remember before when he had different teeth.

The first 4 numbers of his tag on his beige Cadillac were DG6-6, or D66-6, or D6G6, or DGG-6. It lead to
(street address dedacted) Hollywood, Florida 33020. An apartment complex called Grandview. He has a place in Pompano Beach. His other cars ?? A gold 5th Avenue, a 2002 Creme Colored Lincoln Town Car or Continental, a maroone 4 door small American car, a maroone colored van like Don Hazletts old van, but a caravan, a small white 2 door Pinto style car, A white Cadillac he rides in the back with a gay couple driving him around like Mafia. He drives in disguises between Hollywood and Fort Lauderdale. He drives a newer creme Lincoln Town Car. He walks with his a limp..his right leg extended his head straight forward. He also has another walk..he bounces with arthritis, his head down at a 45 degree angle. Young musclemen at Chardees protect him or 'clear' him like Mafia, he is like a Don, which is a higher ranking elder in Organized Crime. Chardees plants hidden cameras in the homes of everyone who goes there, as well as listening devices. When Chuck develops a homosexual attraction to a younger man, he will never get off your back. He puts transmitters around which enables him to talk to you and listen to you all the time. What if you don't want that. When the Mafia gets a hold of you, they constantly use these voices. They try to brainwash you in your sleep. He uses the police officers voices from Wilton Manors and the other mobsters voices from the bar. They put scars on your face and they like to watch you go through your suffering through the hidden cameras in your home.

Chuck is connected to Norman, at
(street address dedacted), Sunrise, Florida 33310. (directions and phone number dedacted) I'm telling everybody this address also. Norman threatened to scratch my eyes out right inside Chardees in public.

Chucks best friend who helps him hurt Indian Immigrants. The cops wont punish Chuck. I'm asking every recipient of this e-mail to send it to at least 50 other people.
Lengthy instructions for spamming recipients snipped...
Tell all your Indian friends about Chuck and Chardees Dinner and Cocktails. He also hides at Tropics Restaurant, Costellos, and Mustards. All on Wilton Drive. All Mafia and cops (the same). Chuck' left eye is lazy and he has a 30mm scar on the right side of his neck. His mouth has scars across the upper lip, especially on the corners of his mouth, as if his mouth was torn apart. He keeps a gel bag between his legs so people can't kick him in the balls. It may be a cholostomy bag. It may be removed by now. He follows people home from the hidden Valet at Chardees Dinner and Cocktails, 2209 Wilton Drive, Wilton Manors, FL 33314-2131

Additionally, Chuck has all his police friends hacking into my email and stealing my job responses from different Computer Science employers. He laughs about it and claims responsibility for it with his voices in my home. He even steals my passwords through hackers and through his inside cameras. He's keeping me from getting a good job. They all harass me with their voices also. I'm scared to go anywhere anymore. I don't go out at all.

I'm sick of hiding from Chuck's Mafia. It's going to stop. Chuck has to pay for his crime. No mercy for Chuck !! He tries to get sympathy from people because of his scars so they won't prosecute him. Chuck hacks into my computer and alters my word processing documents. They delete the parts About the voices and the way Chuck walks and talks and they delete the part about the food Tampering. Chuck drugs my ham right from Publix. Chuck steals my passwords and tampers with Netscape. Chuck tampers with Web Data Extractor software on the Internet. He also tampers with my bookmarks in my Netscape Navigator right on my desktop. He altered my document so I have to keep typing it over and over like some kind of fool. When I lived in Hollywood, Chuck snuck into the house next door and sat in the window across from my front door. He dressed up like the lady that lived there to scare the shit out of me. She has black hair. He had a black wig on and stared at me as I entered my home. The window was right in front of my door. He puts LSD in your drink and then tries to terrorize you. The lady must have been out at Bingo and Chucks friends watch to make sure she doesn't come home. He gets the exact same car like hers from the police station undercover units. He gets pass keys from other police captains.

Attached is Chucks photo in his police uniform, as well as sketches of him before we got hold of this photo. The sketch of the guy hiding his sagging neck is his right hand man Alec. Chuck is much older than this photo. When he first drugged me, the manager and bartenders kept covering for him and saying "Chuck, who's Chuck ??".
Following this is a long, long list of addresses the writer wants his message forwarded to, divided into "Florida Senate," "Florida Resorts," "California Resorts," "Muslims," "Broward Civil Attorneys" (prefaced by "I'm trying to get a civil attorney to file a class action lawsuit against Broward County, Wilton Manors Police Dept. Wilton Manors, and Chardees Restaurant without any retaining fee until Im compensated. For not investigating my police report, concealing Chuck's identity, ongoing stalking and harassment at my home and job, forcing my family to sell our home and move away, and for putting LSD in my Sprite. I'm suing for 35.5 million dollars. If you have been stalked by this person, you may be able to collect. Print out these pictures and ask people if he has stalked them."), and "Indian Students."

Attached to this message is some 3MB (!) worth of photos of the "suspect," crude line drawings, and bizarre collages.

Creeped out yet?

But, wait! There's more!

Today, I get this:
theres going to be a bomb blast at Chardees Dinner and Cocktails and Tropics this Valentines Day bitches

These punks go and fuck with Immigrants and drug them in other communities. They plant hidden cameras and audio listening devices. They fuck with Immigrants and their families. The other assholes can't get them off my back. Lets start messing with these assholes and their families. They drug people.

Lets drug them and their families. They constantly taunt me with voices. Lets use voices on them and their families so they can't function without fear. Give them Immigrant voices with accents all the time so they can experience long term psychological suffering. If their fingers get fucked up, they won't be able to mess with other peoples computers and emails.
So, what do you think, folks? The product of a truly diseased mind, or just a Net hoax?

Has anybody received or heard of this weird spam?
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:55 PM
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1. Wow
It could be a hoax. It does look like it's genuine from someone suffering a mental illness. That is really weird.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:04 AM
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4. Yeah, it's the excruciating detail of it...
...that makes me think the author really is delusional/schizophrenic.

I'd be impressed if an "un-disturbed" individual could fabricate such a thing.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:01 AM
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2. Could be either
but it looks like a direct thread on the last one. That would cause me to report it. :shrug:
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:07 AM
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6. Too true. n/t
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:02 AM
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3. I think I'd turn that one over to the FBI or whoever.
Just for this line alone:

"theres going to be a bomb blast at Chardees Dinner and Cocktails and Tropics this Valentines Day bitches"

Just because he/she isn't quite right doesn't mean they're not capable of something like this. Just my 2.

:scared:
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:09 AM
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7. Yeah, you're right...
Now I have to steel my courage to actually forward this to the FBI. Nothing to hide here, but I hate the thought of dealing with the feds.
:scared:
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:13 AM
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9. Gulp.
I know what you mean. :scared: I'd probably *confess* to being Lizzie Borden within 2 minutes from nervousness.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:20 AM
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12. I turned a threat I came across over to the feds before...
Edited on Wed Feb-04-04 12:21 AM by LoZoccolo
...and it's pretty much no big deal. They took it and that was it. You could contact the police over by where the Chardee's is too maybe.
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:06 AM
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5. It has to be someone sick in the head turn it over to the FBI
:scared:
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:44 AM
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14. I may be crazy but...
I just saw a post to "DU" in which a pair of cats were dressed up like 19th century British "tarheels," and they were hanging out in this bathroom which had an old vintage "water closet" in it, and the cats had apparently smoked a number of cigarettes, in fact one cat was smoking in the picture on DU! But that can't be right, can it? Cats don't smoke filter-cigs----only hand-rolled? Right?

Tell me I'm not crazy.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:12 AM
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8. If you don't report it, and something does happen
you'll regret it forever.

I'd rather feel foolish about falling for spam, myself.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:15 AM
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10. paranoid schizophenia

  • hearing voices
  • complaining about hidden cameras and other surveilance
  • complaints about being drugged
  • transmitted voices
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:17 AM
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11. That person is seriously delusional!

My late mother suffered from paranoid delusions. And that spam is as detailed and elaborate as anything my poor mother's sick mind ever dreamed up!
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 12:31 AM
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13. I'm not a psychiatrist, BUT...
My dad, sister and brother-in-law are, and diseases of the mind interest me greatly. So I think I'm fairly safe in diagnosing this dude as a schizophrenic with paranoid tendencies. I agree that the rather "cliche" references to "voices, listening devices, hidden cameras" and the like make it read like a hoax, or a parody. But I've read a good bit of prose written by mentally ill people, and the vast majority of this stuff rings true. Plus, what would be the point of the hoax?

My advice? Don't reply to the email!
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southerngirlwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 11:32 AM
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19. Agreed
Not a shrink either, but a paranoid schizophrenic that I knew murdered one of my friends about 10 years ago. This e-mail fits the profile PERFECTLY for a paranoid schizophrenic who is clearly capable of violence.

FBI. I've contacted them six or seven times (all but one was when I got spam of the kiddie-porn variety) and they were great every time.

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:23 AM
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15. It's A Beautiful Mind
Reminds me of that movie.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 05:43 AM
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16. Your friends are insane like mine
Tara protect you.

Om Tara Tutare Ture Soha
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:20 AM
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17. Did you "Snopes" this?
www.snopes.com

check it out .... could be a hoax.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 07:49 AM
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18. Not in Snopes (NT)
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 03:46 PM
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20. Update: What I'm doing
First, I want to thank everyone for pushing me to report this thing. You're right. And absolutely: If he were to harm anyone and I did nothing, I couldn't live with myself.

So, I've finally got my detailed explanation written and ready to send to the feds -- it took some time, as it's lengthy, requiring some detailed explanation, and I wanted to make it very clear I have no idea who the sender is, or how I ended up on his list of recipients.

Now I'm trying to find the easiest way to report it. I'm looking at the FBI 'Tips and Public Leads' form ( https://tips.fbi.gov/ if you're curious), and hoping I don't screw up.

Yeah, I know I'm being a wimp, but I'm sweating bullets here. As I said, I'm clean as a whistle (my only "crime" was a speeding ticket in 1990) -- and I know contacting them is freaking me out for no other reason than that I don't know what to expect from any federal law enforcement agency in this scary political climate.

Is it true that if you don't have an FBI file, just contacting them will automatically open a file on you?

Thanks to the folks who've mentioned contacting the FBI in the past, and how it was no big deal. Did you do it via phone, mail, Web...?

God, I wish there were a DU-friendly FBI agent among us here. (Uh, if there is, PM me!)

Incidentally, this story has gotten only more bizarre since last night. I just discovered a third message from this lunatic, sent last week, but which got lost amidst all the "normal" spam. I noticed it this morning as I was cleaning out my inbox:
I have attached a picture of the Sheite POW.

They have captured a Muslim Sheite and accused him of shooting down an American Cargo Plane. Yet, they have not presented one bit of evidence that this plane was not shot down by one of their own American Helicopters or Ground Patrol. They are accusing him of being a Top Level Operative with connections all over the World. I have drawn a picture of the Sheite and the 2 American soldiers who beat him up with their rifles on CNN prime time. They bashed in his face. They were in full camaflouge as the Sheite was in his grey gown. He wasn't even wearing any underwear. He was in a Military Stronghold and his whole right side of his face was swollen up like a grapefruit.. Cerebral Spinal Fluid was dripping from his brain, it was visibly dripping through his right nostril. They smashed his face with their rifles. I present to you.. immediate release of the Sheite Muslim. He is over 50 years old, and I don't think 2 soldiers of 20 years of age should be smashing his face in with machine guns when he's been unarmed. They are going to try to lie and say that he was killed on the battlefield so they can hide him and torture and interrogate him. We are demanding for him to have enough food and water. No torture.

Furthermore, there's and Indian Family who was firebombed in their own business on Sunrise Boulevard and Powerline Road in Fort Lauderdale..right after the Trade Center Incident. They were burned alive. Why are these Americans attacking Indians after the Trade Center Tragedy. They haven't spent one day in School or opened one book, and they want to Firebomb Indian families and burn them in their own business ??

They can't even tell the difference between an Indian and a Sheite Muslim. My heart goes out to the Sheite in the Grey Pajamas. I am his reflection. When he is cut, I bleed for him. I opt for Immediate Release of the Sheite. He is the equivalent of a 4 Star General of the Sheites.
The sender's e-mail address was different from the first two, but the message was again copied to the same 50 recipients.

But wait! There's more!

As I said, all 50 recipients appear to be gay or lesbian individuals or businesses. Some are easy to identify as gay, e.g., joeblow @ gaytravelguides.com or the like, and a few I recognize as the addresses of L/G webmasters. So, for whatever reason, this guy is targeting the gay community, at least in these e-mails.

Now, what bothers me even more is this: I Googled the "Chardees" restaurant he mentions (and threatens), and guess what? It's listed in just about every gay business directory on the Web. Apparently, it's a popular gay nightspot near Ft. Lauderdale.

Knowing this, if you re-read the original bizarro message, a few things jump out: He says the cop who's "stalking" him is gay, and being chauffered around town by a gay couple, and that he's being protected by "young musclemen."

Are you starting to feel sick, as I am? This might be, on top of everything else, a real, live, planned hate crime.

Okay, with that disturbing little revelation, I have to go tell some feds about a crazy person.

Wish me luck. Send good vibes. My stomach is in knots.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 06:43 PM
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21. You are doing the right thing.
If this turned out to be another Matthew Shepherd, you couldn't live with yourself again, and you know it.

Just take some very deep breaths, and know, I am sending you all the good vibes I have.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-04 09:56 PM
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22. FBI replied -- final update, I hope!
In short, they forwarded my info to the "local police" (so, I'm assuming the Broward Co. sheriff) -- but here's their response for anyone who's curious. If nothing else, the stats quoted here are kind of interesting:
Dear Ms. ---,

THIS IS NOT AN AUTOMATED RESPONSE

Thank you for your submission to the FBI Internet Tip Line. Please be advised that by opening the spam e-mails you receive, you validate yoour e-mail address to these people. The information provided will be forwarded to the local police as the FBI does not have jurisdiction in this matter. Thankyou again.

For your information, the Internet Tip Line (ITL) was created on 9/11/01, in response to the terrorist attacks upon America. We quickly established a mechanism for the public to submit information to the FBI via the Internet, and we received our first tip at 10:31 AM that first day. Director Mueller has since made the ITL a permanent part of FBI operations, and we have thus far received over 840,000 tips from around the globe, from which thousands of leads have been sent to FBI Field and Legal Attaché Offices for action.

Initially, almost 100% of the tips received were related to the terrorist attacks; now, approximately 45% of all tips received are related to almost every other FBI criminal program, e.g., drug trafficking, organized crime, money laundering, pyramid schemes, child pornography, fugitives, bank robbery.

Our operation is completely automated and paperless. Submitted tips are received immediately, reviewed within minutes and prioritized by trained Professional Support personnel, and Agents set action leads within the hour, as appropriate.

We encourage you to share this information with your family, friends, and co-workers, and encourage them to not hesitate to submit information they may deem of interest to the FBI. ...
So, I guess that's it. Yeah, I feel kind of dismissed, but on the other hand, I'm greatly relieved that somebody knows about it.

I will be a little surprised if I don't get a call from the Florida cops; I hate the idea of being involved even peripherally with anything like this, but I would hope they would take enough of an interest to ask for forwards of all the e-mails.

In the meantime, I'll keep my eye on any odd mentions in the news for any would-be bombers picked up in central Florida!
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