What do Atkins, freepers, and common sense have in common?

[denverbill]

Answer: OK, nothing.
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"For over 30 years the fast food industry, with the overwhelming encouragement and cooperation of the Federal, State, and Local nutritional gurus, have been pulling the wool over the eyes of the consumer. These so-called experts should be skinned for their pack mentality, systematic lies, distortions, and locked up for intellectual malpractice for their treatment of such visionaries as Dr Robert Atkins, who in the early 1970's warned the world of the perils of pizza, pastries, peta bread, and pasta.

It has only now become apparent that the agenda driven mantra of the food pyramid, was more akin to a grave marker than a monument to healthcare. And more is being learned everyday about the heavy handed influence of the enviro-vegan-terroist-socialist and their one-world vision and international lawmaking prowess. More people have died at the hands of these food-nannies in the name of love, than all of the bullets since the invention of gunpowder. "

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1068228/posts

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OK, most of the thread isn't this idiocy. There are actually good recipes and people talking common sense during most of it.

But how in the name of anything holy can this fucking moron blame
environmentalists and vegans for the fast food industry and corporate control fo the FDA. Methinks someone ate too much lead paint as a child.

Hey Carlos! If you read this, you are a fucking moron. Stop eating paint.

[curlyred]

1. maybe paint is low-carb

:)

[denverbill]

3. Replacing high carbs with heavy metals is probably frowned on.

[liberalhistorian]

2. Because environmentalists and

vegans are the wingnuts' bugaboos and scapegoats of choice, and their drones follow along in happy lockstep, with no real clue as to why.

It's the same reason Clinton gets the blame for everything that's happened anywhere in the universe since the beginning of time. These people HAVE TO HAVE bugaboos and scapegoats, or their brains will explode.

[denverbill]

6. Yes, I know that. I just don't understand how their brains are wired.

I mean seriously. Have you ever known a fat vegan? Have you ever known an environmentalist pushing for a McDonald's to be build next door?

The only ONLY possible connection between this boy's idiotic rantings and reality is that vegetarians do eat carbs and thus, promote carb eating over meat eating. Unfortunately, that alone seems to be enough for this brain-dead twit to blame liberals for fast-food and obesity.

Apparently, the FDA and board of directors at Kraft are both packed with tree-hugging lefty communists.

[BigDaddyLove]

4. Someone named 'ItsOurTimeNow' makes a good point......

"How long before these companies start asking for Government intervention/bailouts...like the Airline Industry has already done.

People are making smart decisions, and the companies are complaining...

Remarkable.."

[slappypan]

5. Clinton's penis made us fat!

People should take responsibility for their own goddamn poor dietary habits instead blaming the government or the Sierra Club. Environmentalists didn't tell anyone to eat fast food and soda and sit around watching TV instead of exercising.

[Robb]

7. Damn you, Clinton's Penis!

[Skittles]

8. people have been eating bread since people existed

the obesity problem is relatively recent. Yet people blame obesity on carbs? It's utterly f***ing stupid.

[BigDaddyLove]

9. It's stupid until you cut down on carbs and lose weight that is.......

beyond that, it's not just bread; the typical American diet is loaded with empty carbohydrates....one can of Pepsi for example has like 41. There is nothing f***ing stupid about cutting these types of carbs out of one's diet.

[liberalhistorian]

11. I was on the Atkins diet for two months,

yes, I lost weight, but I felt like SHIT! I didn't feel healthy at all, and I especially missed a lot of fruits and fruit juices, etc. I finally started having bladder infections, which I've had since I was about ten years old and I'm more than used to them by now, but then I had visible blood in my urine and went to my doctor since I already have mild kidney damage from multiple bladder and urinary infections.

He made me get off of Atkins RIGHT THEN AND THERE, and I had to promise NEVER to get on it again! He said it was fucking up my kidneys, not to mention gumming up my arteries, and a whole bunch of other nasty stuff, which was why I wasn't feeling healthy at all. Since I got off it, I've felt much better and much healthier. That's just me, though, I'm sure it's different for others.

[BigDaddyLove]

13. I never said the Atkins diet specifically.........

I'm just saying that cutting out a lot of the useless carbs upon which the typical American diet is based isn't such a bad idea.

I think the 'South Beach' diet is better anyhow....it seems a lot less restrictive.

[geniph]

17. High-protein diets are contraindicated

for anyone with pre-existing kidney or liver disorders. If your kidneys or your liver are operating suboptimally, the extra work placed on them by a high-protein diet can cause them to fail altogether.

For most other folks - including diabetics - the diets, in moderation, can be healthy. Note the IN MODERATION. That doesn't mean you get to eat a pound of butter a day just because it's low-carb.

The South Beach diet looks really sensible to me, very workable over the long term. I'm considering trying it for general health, not weight loss. My husband, on the other hand, has quite a bit of weight to lose, and maybe if we both eat South Beach, I can be a bit healthier and he can lose some weight. Since he does the cooking, if he goes on it, I go on it by default.

[BigDaddyLove]

21. That last paragraph of yours is the best way to look at these...

'diets'; a change in your long term eating patterns for the better can be nothing but good for you.

[Skittles]

25. it's much better to eat everything in moderation

and step up your activity. You cannot tell me a diet that limits fruit but fat is A-OK is good for you.

[denverbill]

10. I'm not against low-carb diets. I'm doing South Beach right now.

Yes, people have been eating bread since Biblical times, but they didn't make it with refined flour. They didn't put refined sugar in it. And they didn't spread it with Welch's grape jelly.

Same with white rice. Same with fruit juice.

[liberalhistorian]

22. They didn't spread them with

gobs of butter, either.

[FlaGranny]

12. Refined white flour bread is your answer.

White bread, up until a hundred or so years ago was eaten only by rich folks. Poor folks ate brown bread because, believe it or not, refining the flour made it more expensive. I know, you'd never guess that from the way these items are now priced. Brown bread (unrefined) is loaded with FIBER!! Fiber is a carb, but does NOT make you fat.

So, it is the kind of carb you eat that makes you fat.

[HuckleB]

14. What does science say you should eat?

http://www.discover.com/issues/feb-04/features/science-diet/

[BigDaddyLove]

15. I tried Science Diet, but grew tired of just the chicken or beef....

flavors.....they really need tuna or something.

[denverbill]

19. Sounds like South Beach to me.

For non-subscriber's to Discovery, here's an article where he talks about his recommendations.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/community/DailyNews/chat_willett020109.html

[HuckleB]

20. There is overlap, however, it's much more up-to-date than South Beach.

As well as in context with the whole of science.

[PVnRT]

16. Because right-wingers hate vegans and environmentalists

Pretty simple, when you get right down to it.

[geniph]

18. I'm surprised he didn't find a way

to also blame feminism, the "homosexual agenda," the NEA, and "social engineering" too.

:eyes:

Oh, and the "liberal media" too, of course.

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[Blue-Jay]

23. I know, I know!

Atkins: Makes people poop bigger.
Freepers: Are poop.
Common Sense: Never try to hold in poop.

I have found the common thread! (not surprisingly, it's potty-humor)

[onebigbadwulf]

24. You know what else is low carb? Heroin.

[Robin Hood]

26. This is absurd. Who can afford to live the Atkins diet.

Most people are carb addicts because it fills them up for cheap. You can't get filled up on meat for the same amount of money that you would spend on a loaf of bread, spaghetti, top ramen etc.