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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:21 PM
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Enlighten this furrinah, part 923,847: what exactly New England is?
Is it the original 13 States?
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:22 PM
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1. 6 States: MA, CT, RI, ME, VT, NH
Edited on Mon Feb-02-04 02:22 PM by RationalRose
some of the original 13 colonies.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:22 PM
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2. i guess
Edited on Mon Feb-02-04 02:23 PM by soundgarden1
it's the are where the English initially settled in the "New World". New York, New Hampshire, Massachusetts all qualify, maybe Pennsylvania too.

Obviously, from reading a more informed post i dont know jack-shit.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:23 PM
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7. Geographically, New England is the six states I mentioned above
and yes, it's called New England because it's where the Puritans settled when they came over from England.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:22 PM
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3. Nope.. it's
Maine
Vermont
New Hampshire
Massachusetts
Connecticut
Rhode Island
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:22 PM
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4. Not the 13 colonies...Commonly considered...
Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachussetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island.

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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:24 PM
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9. The corrollary to your Q is: the football team WAS the Boston Patriots...
Edited on Mon Feb-02-04 02:25 PM by Richardo
...until they moved out of Boston and regionalized themselves... (late 60s, early 70s??)
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:23 PM
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5. New England is:
Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island.

They were part of the 13 original states.

Terry
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:26 PM
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12. You left out Maine
which was part of Massachusetts until 1820 when it attained statehood as part of the Missouri compromise. Missouri was allowed to become a slave state only if a free state--Massachusetts' Maine territory--was also allowed.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:29 PM
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16. I realized that after I posted.
Another example of the dangers of posting before thinking.

And thanks for the history. Interesting!

Terry
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:30 PM
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17. I only knew about the MO compromise because I grew up in Maine.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-04 02:35 PM by BurtWorm
:hi:

PS: out of vanity I clarified title to make it not sound like I only knew ME was in NE because I grew up there. I would have known that if I'd grown up in NM or ID, I'm sure! But I might not have remembered the fact about the MO compromise.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:23 PM
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6. Not quite, since Georgia is part of the colonies.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-04 02:25 PM by GOPisEvil
Not sure of the official designation, but when I think New England, I think Mass., RI, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont...that area. Forgot Connecticut. :-)
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:24 PM
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8. It's the six most northeasterly states
Edited on Mon Feb-02-04 02:25 PM by KamaAina
Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont.

In fact Maine and Vermont were not even among the original thirteen.

Note that three Dem candidates (Kerry, Dean, Lieberman) come from the region, and that the New Hampshire primary was held there. It's always been highly political.

edit: Gee, I forgot to put 'U' in Massachusetts. Kinda cold up there this time of year, but I do hear they're having a parade tomorrow!!!
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:25 PM
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10. Oddly enough it's just south of New Scotland, just like the old England.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:25 PM
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11. Yes...Nova Scotia.
Interesting point...
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:26 PM
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14. Yeah, and before anyone says 'What about New Brunswick?"
originally, that too was part of Nova Scotia.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:28 PM
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15. And culturally, Northern New England has a lot in common with Canada
I think. Lots of French Canadians in NH, ME, and VT. Many similarities in the original settlers also.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:26 PM
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13. Good Canadian geography quip, SLB...
:D :thumbsup:
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:32 PM
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18. Hey, I can turn any thread around to a Canadian thread in 3 seconds flat!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:41 PM
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20. AH! That's true - never realized it!
Funny.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:33 PM
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19. I had to pretty much "teach a class" at work explaing what New England
is and why. It took me over 30 minutes to convince my SoCal co-workers that New England is not a state.

I've been out here on the westcoast for 24 years and am still shocked at how many public school educated people dont know that there is no state called new England.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:43 PM
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21. You're shitting me? They think New England is a STATE??
:wtf:

Don't kids have to memorize states and their capitals anymore? How can anyone be that "re-TAHD-ed", as we say in Boston....
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:47 PM
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24. "wicked re-tahd-ed" even
:D
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 03:18 PM
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27. Knowing about New Enland is wicked pissah!
:-)
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 03:04 PM
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26. and New Mexico
remmeber when Atlanta had the Olympics? There were complaints from folks in New Mexico that there was being charged as non-US citizens becasue the ticket folks in Georgia thought New Mexico was a country, not a state...
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SPQR Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 03:41 PM
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28. Wait a minute...
you mean there's a NEW Mexico?
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 03:50 PM
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30. I actually argued with 2 of them who refused to believe it!
One of which telling me that she has a map at home and there is a state back east called New England. Then she and the other one rapped back and forth on what the capital was. One of them said Providence.
AAARRGGHHH!!!! What is wrong with people and the public education system in this country.

When I met my ex some 24 years ago she also thought that NE was a state.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:46 PM
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23. Everyone knows the New England isn't a state...
It's a country just off the US coast near Canada. Duh! :)
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:47 PM
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25. Did it secede and I didn't hear about it yet?
;-)
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jimbo fett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 02:45 PM
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22. New England is the group of states that wants to control New India, New
Hongkong, New Falkland Islands, etc.

;-)
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He loved Big Brother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 03:42 PM
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29. It's the part of the country the "patriotic" flag-humpers dislike
You know, the ones who love America so much that they attached a stigma to New England citizens and the very area their greatly admired white forefathers settled (stole).


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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:48 PM
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31. Paul Begala just said that Kerry is from the state of New England.
on crossfire OMFG!!!!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:49 PM
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32. it's a region of 6 states
Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachussetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:02 PM
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33. Great thread!
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 05:03 PM by CBHagman
I had a good laugh over some of those stories about ignorance of geography. Aiee! It really is that bad out there.

I was born in New England, in the same hospital as *, to my everlasting shame.

On edit: I meant shame about the connection to *, not the Nutmeg State. :-)
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