Why does America fear Janet's breast? Even here at DU?

[DemLikr]

Hell, my jaw dropped to the floor, but on reflection, I love the in-your-face, what the hell, aspect of Janet's and Justin's little stunt?

Screw the conservatives who are screaming about this...it's OK to blow breasts off women in Baghdad with bombs and bullets, but immoral to see a nicely shaped boob during a halftime show?; only in America.

And I'm surprised at the streak of Puritanism Janet's breast has exposed here at DU, frankly.

Next year I want to see Justin's ass!

[Kamika]

1. I just don't like forcing sex on young children

Nobody should accept that

[KG]

8. what does a breast have to do with sex.

[Kamika]

13. dude

she's in some latex suit oozing sex, practicly having sex with Justin, then flashing her tit.. it's not like she's preparing to breastfeed a baby.


If NFL(cbs) doesn't straighten up they WILL lose viewers.

[maveric]

16. Its only a breast.

Lighten up!

[Kamika]

22. Hey it doesn't bother ME

But I think my small cousin has a right to a nice childhood, I know she will start having sexual images of how a girl should act and look, crammed down her throat when she's 12 or so so let her have a cool childhood till then ok?

You'd think a damn Football game would be free of sex..

[maveric]

34. Was it "crammed down her throat"? And do you really think that a

naked breast will disturb her to the point of ruining her childhood. Or making it "uncool".

Thats the problem with the fundies in this country. They think the human body and sex in general is dirty so they condemn it as sinful.

Very "Ashcrofty".

How does you cousins parents feel about the whole incident and her exposure to seeing a breast on TV?

[Kamika]

36. I dont think sex is dirty

I do think a 7 year old and sex doesn't MIX!

If it had just been nudity it wouldn't have bothered me, but this was sexual. And I dont think kids should be exposed to that

[sangh0]

98. Then turn off the TV!!!

If you don't want your child to be exposed to inappropriate images of sexuality on TV, then why do you allow your child to watch TV.

TV is filled with innapropriate images of sexuality!!

[DemLikr]

86. Nothing in human nature is free of sex. Toddlers are already sexual

creatures.

When a youngster asks about Janet's boob, try yawning, and saying, "yes, it was a very nice breast. Now, do you have your homework done?"

Kids pick up on our neuroses about bodies and sex.

[Anaxamander]

100. But were you okay with Janet's whole "oozing sex"

outfit BEFORE she flashed her breast? I mean, if the whole dance number was inappropriate, wouldn't the kids' heads be turned away before the breast was shown?

[Kathy in Cambridge]

74. Someone needs to get laid!

:eyes:

It's only a boob, fer Chrissakes! I'm with ya, buddy!

[HuckleB]

21. And your point?

Ever watch the NFL's "cheerleaders"?

Anyway, this is a violent game we're talking about, and I mean no disrespect to the game -- it's a fine game. But if you're willing to subject yourself to violent hit after violent hit, then what's the big deal about a breast?

[Kamika]

23. check post 22

topic

[HuckleB]

27. So, it's OK for her to witness violent hits and grinding cheerleaders?

But a breast goes too far?

Call me suspicious of this line in the sand.

[Kamika]

28. those violent hits is a sport..

With rules.

And I dont think those cheerleaders were so bad.. they even showed how some of the cheerleaders went to Harward etc

[HuckleB]

31. Uh huh. And Janet was just performing on stage.

What's your point?

[Kamika]

35. My point is

We KNEW what we were getting with the match, not with the performance.

If we had known that she would show her tit we would have switched the channel or something. This is like they would have shown porn.. same thing..

[DrWeird]

38. God forbid you should take your cousin to an art museum.

Little girls have no business knowing about the female anatomy.

[Kamika]

40. You don't get it do you

there's a big damn difference between nudity and sex/porn

[HuckleB]

43. Exactly!

Now you understand!

[maveric]

45. Does she like britney Spears or Christine Aguilara videos?

Theres more sex in those than in that split second of exposure by Janet.
I think that you are sending her the wrong message about her body and sex in general.

[DrWeird]

52. An allegory of time and lust. Get it?

<>

[HuckleB]

41. And keep those A & P textbooks out of REACH!

[HuckleB]

39. Not the same thing as porn, sorry.

Sorry. It's a boob, and it's covered, and you always expect the unexpected with the NFL. As for the rest of your complaints about the Justin/Janet performance, that's exactly what you should have expected to see.

[lolly]

42. Lose Viewers??

Come on now, listen to that a minute.

Like there's NOTHING the average football fan hates worse than seeing naked women . . .

[KG]

46. yeah, them football watching white guy are getting fed up

with scantily cheerleaders gyrating on the sideline every sunday!!

[Demonaut]

92. it was'nt a breast , its was a tit

with a pierced nipple...............I loved it, More nudity less violence

[amandae]

103. <NFL(cbs) doesn't straighten up they WILL lose viewers>

I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen. Most people who watch the NFL games are guys .... I'm sure not many of them will stop watching because Janet Jackson flashed a boob.

JMHO

:hi:

[LoZoccolo]

18. So tell me KG...

...you have a girlfriend?

Can I see her boobs?

Oh.

[HuckleB]

24. Relevance?

[LoZoccolo]

37. There's plenty of relevance.

Like there's reasons people don't show their boobs that are sexual.

[HuckleB]

47. Hmm.

I'm not sure if I understand that sentence, but, are you saying that all the children in Europe who have seen breast at the beach can't get their minds off of sex? How about children who grow up in cultures where covering breasts isn't an issue?

Sorry, no relevance noted.

[LoZoccolo]

48. Send me some topless pictures of your mother.

They're just boobs y0.

[HuckleB]

53. Go ahead. Ask her for some.

Why would I care?

[LoZoccolo]

56. PM me with her number.

I'll PM you with the bank account with the bail money in it. I think you can just type "Cook County Jail" in MapQuest and it'll take you right there.

[HuckleB]

60. You can get that yourself, funny guy.

As for the rest of your bizarre post, I'm quite shocked that you, of all people, are afraid of Janet's breast.

[LoZoccolo]

65. I'm trying to get it...from you!

As for the rest of your bizzare posts, I'm quite shocked that you, of all people, are afraid of a fascist government.

[HuckleB]

68. How much have you had to drink?

That post doesn't make sense on any known stage of consciousness.

They're her boobs, and it's her number. You deal with it, if you want it so bad.

[LoZoccolo]

80. Nada. I boycotted the Super Bowl because of the MoveOn.org thing.

I don't really want to see them so much as I want to get a laugh out of you calling your mother up to have them taken. Explain to her that they're just breasts y0.

[HuckleB]

81. My mom doesn't owe me any favors.

So you're out of luck.

Great to hear you didn't watch the game, either.

I went skiing. It's the best day of the year to hit the mountain for some nordic action.

[Djinn]

66. come to any beach in Melb

on a hot day, LoZoccolo, and you're likely to see mine and lots of other women's who don't give a shit if someone see's their chest

[LoZoccolo]

50. No relevance noted there either.

Going to a topless beach is a lot different than this ripping thing.

I'll admit I think Janet's got nice breasts...but it's not appropriate for a Super Bowl halftime show.

[HuckleB]

58. How is it different?

And why is it "not appropriate?"

It's the frickin' Super Bowl. Everything is appropriate. It's the biggest consumerfest around.

[LoZoccolo]

62. Ask women you work with to walk around topless.

Bit by bit, this "appropriateness" thing will get clearer and clearer.

Wish there was a good enough dictionary or something...but there isn't.

[HuckleB]

67. You're funny.

Perhaps you'll find an understanding for yourself someday. Keep trying. The relevance of your posts to the matter at hand is, well, nonexistent. But keep trying. This great tragedy will be overcome! Breasts will be locked away, underneath several layers of tear-proof clothing! You shall overcome!

[LoZoccolo]

70. Women on the N side of Chicago that wants their breasts fondled, PM me.

We can call this HuckleB fellow and you can serve as a witness of just how much I enjoy it.

Don't worry, it's all for science.

But hurry. I'm thinking of going to bed at midnight.

[HuckleB]

72. I get it.

You're one of those preacher types, who plays it all straight and narrow, but sneaks off to the porn shack at the end of the day.

Well, enjoy yourself. But I'm a very expensive voyeur. I don't think you can afford me.

[LoZoccolo]

75. Never did I play it "straight and narrow".

But I don't think that whole endevour is necessary, now that I'm not being accused of being afraid of breasts anymore.

(That was your best comeback yet, though.)

[HuckleB]

77. If you say so.

Thought it was pretty weak myself, but I'll take the compliment.

[LoZoccolo]

83. On second thought, no, it made no sense.

Figuratively, I'm not sneaking off to the porn shack, I'm doing it in front of everyone!

I'M GONNA GRAB ME SOME A-CUPS! THEN I'M GONNA GET MY HANDS ON SOME B-CUPS! AND C-CUPS! D-CUPS! AND THEN IT'S ON TO A PAIR OF BIG-ASS DOUBLE-D'S! YAAAAAAAARRRRH!

(My point for anyone who's not got it by now is that you don't have to be afraid of breasts to think there's a time and a place for tits-out.)

[Djinn]

69. good idea

Given that her nipple was WELL AND TRULY covered all you actually saw was the fleshy bit (does that part have a name, I've always sufficed with just left one and right one) that is on show ANY time a women wears a low cut top - kinda like the one I have on now - in the office - please explain the difference (seeing as condescension seems a hobby of yours) between "top of boob cleavage" and "bottom of boob cleavage" Is there a specific amount you can have on show??

[LoZoccolo]

73. You're the one at work right now.

And thus you're in a better position to run that kind of experiment.

It's probably the only thing you could do that might get you a promotion and make you want to quit your job at the same time. Should be interesting.

[Djinn]

82. yep

I'm at work and my top is showing cleavage SHOCK HORROR CALL THE COPS!!! people in my office can see about as much boob as Superbowl viewers - the ones that weer SO outraged they played in back in slo-mo that is

[KG]

51. no relevance.

methinks he just don't like my opinion so he wants to make a snide comment.

no big deal. yawn.

[LoZoccolo]

55. Better yet...watch the Janet thing with your mother!

YAAAAAAAARRRRH!

[HuckleB]

63. Oh, cool idea!

Do you feel better now?

[KG]

26. heh

you'd have to ask her.

my girlfriends aren't my chattel.

[maveric]

9. She wasnt engaging in a sex act. Do you think that boobs are dirty?

And it may have been an accident.

[aquart]

15. No way that was an accident.

It went exactly as rehearsed.

[DrWeird]

10. Yes.

Small children and exposed breasts should never be in the same room together.

:eyes:

[earthside]

17. That's a Joke

That's a joke, right?

How were many of us fed during our early childhood months?

Actually, I'm with the person who says we can drop bombs on children, women, and men in Baghdad, but we're outraged about a little risque action during a half-time show?

More boobs, less bombs ...

[DS1]

64. I'm not sure, DrWeird's one serious no-bullshit motherf*cker

I wouldn't mess with him... :scared:

/this is a joke too

[Kahuna]

14. A tit is "sex?" Since when?

:shrug:

So what. Parents will now have to explain tits to their small children. Oh, the humanity. :eyes:

[Ramsey]

87. Why are young children watching a football game??

I would think the violence of a football game would be far more potentially damaging to a young pysche than any flash of skin. Why are young kids being allowed to watch a violent sport like that? Why does our society condemn the human body while glorifying violence?

[trigz]

94. SEX?! Seeing a tit is supposed to be sexual? Come off it! (nt)

[onebigbadwulf]

2. It's more of outrage at hypocrisy.

Not the actual boob.


If it was on ABC, no one would have cared.

[brainwashed_youth]

3. we're not so much shocked

it's just that it caught us by surprise. I myself had no prob with it, seeing as how i smiled a mile wide after i saw that incident. I think most of us are more mad because CBS rejected the moveon ad, but let janet flash the whole world

[baldguy]

4. We are all a product of American Puritanism.

Violence will always be more acceptable than sexuality.

[DS1]

5. I am not afraid!

*hands on hips in classic King of Siam pose*

Show me these breasts you speak of!

[baldguy]

25. I can just hear Yul . . .

[DemLikr]

88. LOL

[greatauntoftriplets]

6. Oh gods! Not another JJ boob thread!!!!

Jeez.

[LastKnight]

7. i have no fear of breasts.

infact, i say, bring em on...

-LK

edit: i also have no fear of misspelling... ha, wont find me using spell check.

[Sannum]

11. boobs are hardly offensive...

...and the only boob I am afraid of is living in the White House.

[peekaloo]

12. I'll bet Rush milks this incident to shame libruls!

[Kamika]

20. yah no kidding

Damn he's gonna go on how we evil liberals corrput small kids with our sex orgies during the nfl show :D

[NewHampster]

19. A breast is not Sex - Nothing wrong, let it go

No sex was forced on children.

Relax.

[HuckleB]

29. I'm just wondering.

Of all those who want to save the children from Janet's breast, do you think that all the children in Europe who've seen thousands of breasts on the beach are completely warped and basically out of balance for life?

[Edge]

30. Her breasts came out during halftime?

Damnit...I missed it. :cry:

[dawn]

32. I don't think it's a big deal, but I didn't see it.

I do think we are too uptight about sex and not uptight enough about violence. Traveling around Italy and France, I saw alot of nudity on TV, during family time. It wasn't considered a big deal. Of course, since people bathe topless there, boobs weren't a big deal. Italian men seemed to idolize butts more than boobs!

However, this was an attention ploy, which is cheesier than showing a boob.

[Beearewhyain]

33. Burkas...we need burkas

Must have burkas or the temptation for the males will be to inflame the demon and make the males do the evil to the women who flout the divine law. Dirty, Dirty, dirty women. :spank:

<end sarcasm>

[demgrrrll]

44. I watched the damn thing and I didn't see her boob. I must have a

tiny television, or maybe I wasn't looking in the right place.
Oh well, maybe someone will flash a boob at the Grammys.

[Terwilliger]

49. 2 things

1) The whole bare breast thing is just an example of ridiculously blatant hypocrisy on the part of CBS

and

2) Janet Jackson is fine...I didn't mind seeing her breast at all ;-)

[KG]

61. 2) word

:)

[JVS]

90. I just don't want this thing to go too far

We will rue the day that the Beverly Hillbillies tapes are altered to make granny appear topless

[corporatewhore]

54. Ladies Lets Be Proud of our Bodies!!!

[arewethereyet]

57. there were a lot of interesting conversations in homes with kids tonite

for the boys it was better than National Geographic.

for the girls, going to be a real toning down on attire and choices of music.

luckily my daughter dosen't care for football.

the good news is that we'll never have to worry about seeing Janet Jackson on broadcast television again. at least before 9 or 10 PM.

it was worth it for that alone.

complements to the plastic surgeon by the way

[tomreedtoon]

71. My problem with this, which I didn't see...

...except for the still someone posted here (thanks, guy!)...

...is that Jackson is supposed to be a musical performer. We are supposed to respect her for her talent, not her plastic surgeon's talent.

If she knew this was going to happen, and she allowed it to happen, she wasn't engaging in something revolutionary. It's a cheap old vaudeville trick. Drop your pants when the audience gets bored. (Which they may be, with the way her singing career is going.)

It would be different for someone whose business was exposing her body. Say a stripper. Or a cheerleader. Or an actress playing a character who was in the nude for dramatic reasons.

But coming in this circumstance, it looks like Jackson trying to put silicone enhancement in a sagging career.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

76. Nice that you raise yer daughters so well

what century are we in again?

:eyes:

[Kamika]

91. That was the worst boob job ever

The breast was like hanging down

[NashVegas]

59. I Wasn't Scared, I Was ANNOYED

big difference :)

[Kathy in Cambridge]

78. I really didn't notice

it was only the uptight, poles-up-the-ass, judgemental, pseudo-Christians that need to get laid who drew my attention to it.

O8)

[jus_the_facts]

105. yeah everthing should be made into a *girls gone wild* extravaganza....

.......god knows the pharma industry needs to sell more viagra :eyes:

[neverforget]

79. My problem with this was that I didn't see it!

:evilgrin: :spank:

[DS1]

84. I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of kittens

suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

[rocktivity]

85. It just wasn't necessary

Then again, when you're a no-talent pop sensation whose sensation has worn off, maybe it is.


rocknation

[nolabels]

89. The only time I fear them is when they are more than handful

The fear I have when they are more than a handful is that I might lose control gawking at them (such a terrible fear, don't you know).

Normal biological responses are immoral, such a twisted road we lead.

[EV1Ltimm]

93. I HEART BOOBIES!

I'm trying to find one reasonable explaination that will justify why breasts are considered taboo and dirty.

If breasts are purely sexual, then millions of breast-fed babies deserve an apology from their respective mothers.

[beyurslf]

95. How does seeing a breast for 2 seconds

make it so sexual as to be damaging but watching Janet and Justin gyrate and grind next to each other throughout the song doesn't do damage?

It may have been over the top, but I think the song was sexual enough. "I am going to have you naked by the end of this song" and "Gonna rock your body" are the words they (the kids present)listened to... and they didn't even have to be looking at the screen to hear that.

Let's not forget "It's getting hot in here so take off all yoru clothes" Nelly's song. And the women who ripped off their clothes at the end of it (while still very skantily clad). And putting their asses next to him and grinding and shaking.

I didn't really see anything wrong with the show but I don't have kids so I may see it from a different perspective. Of course, if I was worried about sexual content, I think I would have turned it long before the breast came out.

[GainesT1958]

96. Well, if it had been done at the MTV Awards...

Or even at the Grammys, it still would have been over-the-top (or would that be "off-the-top"? :eyes: ), though it would've been "in context" of a music awards show, where the outrageous has become the norm. BUT...at the half-time of the Super Bowl, where so many of America's CHILDREN are watching with their parents, it was shocking, stupid, perverted, and just plain tacky as hell. Janet jackson looked like a prostitute, and Justin Timberlake looked the part of an overzealous college kid at the local topless club. There's just NO PLACE for that at a major sports event watched by millions of all ages. x(

Hey, didn't that emphasize the irony of CBS not showing the streaker at the start of the second half? My wife was complaining and yelling "I want equal time!" I responded with, "Don't you mean 'equal exposure', dear?" :eyes:

B-)

[buddhamama]

97. i find the uproar to be rather silly

the breast was pleasant enough but the reaction borders on hysteria.

we can subject our kids to images of destruction death war,etc., which is far more obscene imo, but the sight of a woman's breast is just going too far :eyes:

[TopesJunkie]

99. The terror of the breast!

Bush is labeling Janet a terrorist this morning, thus we have been told to fear the terror of the breast! You'd better fall in line!

[ronnykmarshall]

101. JT's butt!

"Next year I want to see Justin's ass!"

Amen!

[nolabels]

104. That was one of the reasons both teams were so successful

They made good use of all their tight ends

[TopesJunkie]

102. The kids are all right --

We teach our children rules regarding touching and the body in a matter of fact manner, along with the other rules of life, in increasing complexity as they develop. This fosters safety and understanding, and makes the unexpected much easier to discuss.

This was no big deal. It is now, thanks to people getting all upset about it. That's what cracks me up. Parents and moralists have such a tendency to feed their own fears and make the situation bad, when they had a wonderful teaching opportunity that they let go down the tube.