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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 03:58 PM
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smoke arising from this gun
read this and tell me I am wrong but if this story is true and it gets public legs I think * has a major problem.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_2518.shtml
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 04:00 PM
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1. That's a mighty big "if" given the state of the press these days.
Edited on Tue Jul-08-03 04:01 PM by GOPisEvil
But, I don't know that this in and of itself would constitute a big problem. However, with all of *'s other lies, it could add up to something less than pleasant for him. Let's hope!

Hey! I just edited my subject line! Whee!!!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 04:17 PM
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2. Washington Post has it.
I think there's a thread and link in GD.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 04:27 PM
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3. NOT the same story!
Why does everyone keep thinking it is?

The Post and everyone else are reporting the WH admission that they should not have used the Niger evidence in the SOTU, given what they know now. (of course, we all know they knew or should have known it then).

The Capitol Hill Blue story (with its misleading headline that the "WH admits Bush Lied") actually quotes an alleged insider who allegedly personally heard Bush say that "if the current operatives working for the CIA couldn't prove the story was true, then the agency had better find some who could," and that "He said he knew the story was true and so would the world after American troops secured the country." This in angry response to the CIA recommending he remove the Africa/uranium reference from the SOTU address because it was unreliable. It's this alleged CIA insider who's "admitting" that Bush lied.

Now, I doubt the WH word on the former story (they HAD to know). But I also doubt the veracity of the latter story. Capitol Hill Blue seems to be a bit of a Drudge/NewsMax type conspiracy page, and the misleading headline doesn't give me faith in the quality of their reporting.
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 04:44 PM
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4. the man is identified
it is not very difficult to verify if he said this and witnessed this extremely serious situation. The guy must be crazy and should not fly on any small aircraft in the near future.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 04:59 PM
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5. As other posters in other threads have pointed out...
Google searches do not turn up this guys name (Terrance J. Wilkinson). That doesn't mean he doesn't exist, but if he's a CIA staffer who takes part in Oval Office briefings, you'd think his name would be out there somewhere.

As much as I hate to admit it, until I get independent verification, I'm not hanging my hopes on this story.

(If it is true, and the guy is real, you're right... don't fly on small planes!)
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 05:26 PM
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6. Okay, I'll bite. Could THIS be the guy??
From a June 20th New York Times story on searching for Saddam Hussein (via the Oakland Tribune reprint of the story: http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82~1865~1467084,00.html):

"It has been known that Task Force 20 has led the hunt for chemical and biological weapons. But the unit's role in trying to determine the fate of Saddam has not been previously disclosed. Some officials have suggested that the efforts are linked and that he or his sons left power with a precise knowledge of Iraq's weapons program."

"Task Force 20, the military organization that defense officials said had been charged with conducting the search, reports to the Central Command and its leader, Gen. Tommy R. Franks. The Central Command has only recently acknowledged the existence of Task Force 20, and and a spokesman for the U.S. Central Command, James Wilkinson, said he would not comment on the special military team or its mission. But other United States officials said the team was being supported by several intelligence agencies, including the CIA, and was organized to allow it to act quickly on intelligence gathered by satellites and electronic eavesdropping."

"J. (James) Wilkinson", in Iraq, linked (by the story at least) to the CIA and the hunt for WMD. Could this be the same guy? Could a guy working with the military in this capacity, as a "spokesman" on sensitive issues in Iraq, also be a "CIA advisor present at two Oval office meetings"?
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:58 PM
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7. While Capitol Hill Blue's heart appears to be in the right place
his earlier stories never checked out. I've gotten my hopes up over his stories twice this year; both just sort of petered out. I hope you're right, but would counsel against getting too excited about this.
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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 10:28 PM
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8. One more nail in *’s coffin


The people are beginning to see that he is a liar on many fronts. Once it starts it will become apparent quickly that the SOB has no clothes.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 10:29 PM
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9. And what a frightening vision that is!
:scared:
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