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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 01:34 AM
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Something strange is happening to me, (dreams),and I am curious...
as to what it is.

Lately I have been having some very strange dreams. Not Nightmares, but 'odd' dreams that seem to have no 'end'. Some of these have been repetitious, and never vary. What I find intriguing, is that NONE of them are 'positive'.

As a skeptic, I do not necessarily believe that dreams portend the future. I also believe that most dreams are releases from pressures of everyday life; sort of a "failsafe" mechanism to keep us from going completely bonkers.

One in particular seems to stand out. I find myself in the company of some people I have nothing in common with, and have developed a severe dislike for these people. They are generally ignorant, and discuss things in tones that are exceptionally aggravating. When I try to engage any of these people in discussion, their faces actually change into something that somewhat resembles a Gargoyle on a European Church. It is as if evil was being played out before me, and I am powerless to fight back. I am never afraid of these people, just revolted.

This has been going on for about two weeks, and always ends when I awaken at between 2:30 and 3:00 AM. I check the clock every time I have this dream. To me, it seems weird that this particular dream comes at that particular time.

My query is: Are there any others out there that have repetitious dreams that don't seem to have any basis in anything that has happened to them before, or is likely in the future?

This is new to me, and I would like to find out if this is unique.

Thanks for taking the time to jot a few lines if you have the time.

O8)
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 01:37 AM
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1. I have been having repetitive nightmares that I again...
find my ex-husband attractive. *gaack*

I am serious. Don't know what kicked these off. I can't imagine even being touched again by him. Yeesh!
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:05 AM
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6. Not trying to be a smart aleck...
but there must have been Something attractive about him initially?

O8)
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 01:41 AM
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2. last week i started...
Edited on Sun Feb-01-04 01:43 AM by LastKnight
having a repeating dream that all my teeth would fall out all at once, not pulled out, but not naturally falling out either...i see myself in the third person at eye level as if looking in a mirror. and suddenly my teeth fall out and my gums start bleeding. then i wake up. with a bleeding lip, donno if that has anything to do with the bleeding in the dream, mabye the taste of blood triggers it, i donno.

i dont have any fear/dislike of dentists, have never had any real bad teeth problems or surgeries. and its been about a month and a half since my last dentist visit. but yea, its a reoccuring dream.

-LK
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:07 AM
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8. Sounds like you are perhaps having...
grinding problems in your sleep. Not uncommon, but to find blood, I would look for an answer.

That is a strange one...especially by looking at it as a third person.

O8)
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twistedliberal Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 12:04 PM
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29. I have a very similar one!
Except mine is in first person. I lose a tooth for no reason, then another one. Pretty soon, I'm spitting out teeth one after another. THEN, my jaw just starts falling apart (that's the best I can describe it--it's like it just falls apart). It's painless in the dream, but I always wake up very disturbed by it.

No blood involved though.

My sister is a psychologist and said that some dream analysts say that it means you want children.

:shrug:

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 12:53 PM
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30. The analysis of your teeth falling out...
and equating it to wanting children is a bit bizarre for my taste.
Seems more logical to think of kids, changing diapers, watching them grow into their first steps seems much more logical to me.

Like I say, I'm no expert, and dreams can certainly be weird, but stretches things a bit to my mind. I would like to know how that correlates? Next time you talk to her, see if you can find out the correlation; would be interesting.

O8)
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twistedliberal Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 01:25 PM
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34. It's kind of bizarre to me too.
Edited on Sun Feb-01-04 01:27 PM by twistedliberal
I'm looking at a couple of websites to see if I can find an explanation. The closest thing I can see is that it can be triggered by a beginning of a new phase in life, or anxiety about the future or your self-image.

Maybe it's a common dream amongst couples who are trying to have children? :shrug: That's about the only connection I could make (although I'm not in that category--I think for me it's a self-image thing).

My sister isn't a dream analyst herself (she's a school psychologist), but probably has colleagues who do. She lives a thousand miles away so I can't keep track of what kind of riff-raff she makes company with :)

ON EDIT: Here's a couple of links:

http://www.dreamsleep.net/
http://www.dreamjournal.org/dj/forum/
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 01:37 PM
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36. Thanks for the links....
This kind of stuff can be interesting. But, being a skeptic, I find a lot of it a little, shall I say 'odd'; simply because there are few obvious answers to dreams that are bizarre, I often think people make stuff up to collect a fee.

:evilgrin:
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:07 PM
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37. I think that's a common theme.
I have dreams that my teeth are falling out, too. I've heard others say they have dreams like that. I also have the "forgot to put on clothes and went to work naked" dream occasionally. I still have them even though I stay home with my kiddos now.
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banana republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 01:48 AM
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3. ahhhh yes dreams
dreams are a doorway to the unconsious mind. what you don't know about your self; what you wish you never knew about yourself; and what you hope to become are all revealed through dreams.....


In biblical times dreams were how G*D communicated with mere mortals...


In modern times who give a rip...

except for people like Joseph Campbell; Martin Luther and Jesus
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:09 AM
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10. Like I said, i am a skeptic in such things...
but I realized a long time ago, that one man's hallucination, is another man's vision. Just depends on perception.

O8)
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 01:52 AM
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4. I have had some truly strange dreams, but never had a repetitive one
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:04 AM
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5. Read: Sigmund Freud's 'Dreams'...
Don't read: '1001 Dreams Interpreted' or some such.

Although Freud has fallen out of vogue in the curriculum of some universities, his very detailed analysis of the dreams of people with/without psychoses is very interesting, and very scientific compared to some of his research.

His conclusions about the origins of dreams are varied, rational, and make a lot of sense. It can be a deep-seated psychosis, or it can as simple as someone that you saw on a commuter train last week making a surprise guest appearance.

The fact that the current administration seems to enjoy tweaking the 'terror' knob up to 'high' on our collective consciousness may have a lot to do with your un-positive dreams.

----------------------------------

On the other hand, Carlos Casteneda's belief was that dreams are an out-of-body experience at times, and your non-corporeal self is actually interacting in another dimension.

If you can achieve consciousness in your dream without waking, perhaps you are astral-traveling. Try to examine your hands next time you are dreaming...if you know that you are dreaming... ;)
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banana republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:08 AM
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9. William James
Varieties of Religious Experience...

Not so much about dreams as about their interpretation.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:23 AM
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11. I read "Dreams" years ago...
and found it a little interesting, but somewhat offbeat too.

I will check it out again though.

As for the current administration, I have no fear of them, nor do I have any fear of being attacked by terrorists, etc. Both, however, are exceptionally repulsive to me.

O8)
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:31 AM
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13. How would...
...your conscious self know what your unconscious is afraid of?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:40 AM
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14. Interesting query...
and not to sound like I am some kind of superhuman; but I have very little fear in my conscious state. I spent a lot of time soul searching, and have done some in depth mental accountings. Because of this, I have made some changes in my life, some minor, a few major. It takes a brave soul to look deep into ones own psyche, but I did, and actually pretty well liked what I saw, (except for those changes I mentioned).

It will be interesting to figure this stuff out.

O8)
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:06 AM
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7. May I attempt an interpretation?
Without reading any replies first...

Your dream strikes me as completely normal for any independent-thinking American who feels surrounded by deliberately-ignorant wingnuts.
I am powerless to fight back. I am never afraid of these people, just revolted.
Yep, that's how it strikes me.

And yes, I've had several repetitive dreams most of my life, some of which awaken me at the same time every morning (3:33 a.m. -- which is significant to me, but would probably mean nothing to anyone else, so I'll skip why).

Most common: I'm alone, and stark naked, in a city, and I can't remember my own phone number. I know no one, and I have no way to get home. I have to walk, by myself.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 02:29 AM
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12. Funny thing is, about the current admin...
I don't feel powerless, I actually feel powerful. I spend a lot of time fighting these people and generally win in the local arena.

I can understand why I might feel powerless against the ignorance, because ignorance is self inflicted. In normal life though, the ignorant never frighten me, they just repulse me. Might be something there.

Glad to see I'm not the only one that wakes up at specific times from dreams though...that shakes me up a little.

O8)
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 04:20 AM
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15. I am an atheist and also a skeptic.
Edited on Sun Feb-01-04 04:57 AM by RebelOne
But I have had dreams in which something relating to those dreams occurred days later. One really strange one that will stick in my mind forever happened many years ago.

I used to own horses and kept them in a really remote pasture outside of Miami. This pasture was between two cemetaries. I dreamed that I was going out to feed the horses at night. Somehow I ended up in one of the cemetaries and started to run. I ran into a body hanging from a tree and that body had no legs. And of course, I woke up then. My mother used to rent one of her spare bedrooms out. Well, the next day she came by my house with a man in her car. She said she wanted to introduce me to her new roomer. I looked in the car and this man had no legs. He was a war veteran and had lost them in combat. Well, you can imagine how freaked out I was.

And then at another time, in a dream I saw my brother-in-law in an accident. His car hit a tree and I saw him lying on the ground. Well, several days later, he lost control of his car while going around a curve and he hit a tree and was thrown out. Luckily, he was not badly injured.

There have been many other dreams I have had in which something relating to those dreams happened. So pay attention to those dreams. They could be a sign of something to come.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 09:10 AM
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22. I am not an atheist, but certainly a skeptic...
however, recurring dreams seem to have my attention.

Over the years, I have had several 'odd' things happen, but I never had the expertise to work them out to a logical conclusion. While not a believer in prognostication, some things have turned out remarkably similar to what I thought or dreamt might happen. I am prone to the notion that one creates the situation they enter into. If you believe something will fail, it most likely will, type of thing.

There is alot to be said about 'gut feelings' too. That 'Dark Alley" you've been down 100 times before, might not be such a good idea at 3 AM, if you feel something is amiss. I've had many a situation relieved because I paid attention to 'gut feelings'.

I am glad your b-i-l was not seriously injured; but what became of the vet? Just curiosity rearing it's head. Was he seriously depressed, or worse yet, did he ever attempt anything remotely like suicide that you know of?

O8)

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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 10:35 AM
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24. Strangely enough, Murray has learned to live with his disability.
He was very happy-go-lucky and never seemed depressed. And to my knowledge, I do not think he ever tried suicide. At least not at the time I knew him.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 11:26 AM
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26. That is great news!
I still wonder about the 'hanging in the tree' thing though. There could be a lot of reasons for that; but the main point you've brought up, is that Murray did well! :bounce:

O8)
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 05:22 AM
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16. Forget what everybody else has said . . .
Your dream means you need to get laid! :)
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:47 AM
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19. Hmmm, get laid...
Ignorant people, that turn into gargoyle like creatures.....Maybe I should check out a GOP convention!


OMG...Ann Coulter!!!!!!:wow:

O8)
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 07:18 AM
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17. I've never had a dream that wasn't totally wierd.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 07:50 AM
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18. You're dreaming about republicans.
I suggest a martini before bed.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:48 AM
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20. By the barrell !!!!!
n/t
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 09:02 AM
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21. Spending too much time in GD: 04 ?
"...I find myself in the company of some people I have nothing in common with, and have developed a severe dislike for these people. They are generally ignorant, and discuss things in tones that are exceptionally aggravating. When I try to engage any of these people in discussion, their faces actually change into something that somewhat resembles a Gargoyle on a European Church. It is as if evil was being played out before me, and I am powerless to fight back. I am never afraid of these people, just revolted...."

Maybe your subconscious is trying to tell you to take a break ...

:hippie:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 09:14 AM
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23. LOL....
I NEVER go into GD '04....far to wierd for me. I have found myself going to Freeper links posted though....(cold shudder). :scared:

:hi:

O8)
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 10:44 AM
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25. The first thing that came to my mind is for you to ask yourself
if you have changed, or started taking, any medication of any kind around the time the dreams started. Some medicines (even herbal ones or ones applied to the skin) are known to produce weird and/or repetitive dreams.

Secondly, it is not weird at all for you to wake up at the same time after these dreams. I have often woken up several nights in a row, after dreams, at the exact same minute each night.

I had many repetitive dreams (mostly nightmares) when I was a child, but rarely have them now.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 11:52 AM
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27. I thought about that as well...
I take 1 Rx med; Vioxx 25mg, (NSAID), once a day on a regular basis for osteoarthritis in my C-Spine. Occasionally, I take 1 10mg diazepam, (Valium), for muscle spasms around my shoulders and neck, but I try to avoid using it unless things get a little too 'out of hand' with the spasms. I'd rather go with moist heat and stretch exercises, and use diazepam as a 'last resort'.

The literature on Vioxx says little about psychoactive situations.
Diazepam however, can have some pretty heavy psychoactive situations. Since I rarely use it, especially over the past month or so, even with half-life taken into account, I can't see the connection, although it may certainly exist.

You bring up an excellent point about what is taken into the body though. While I don't use any 'herbal remedies' per se; I certainly use herbs and spices in cooking. This may well be worth looking into. (Sure hope Oregano and Garlic don't cause this, I can't picture giving up Italian food!)

Nightmares are extremely rare for me...in fact I can't recall when I had the last one, maybe 35 years ago. I don't scare easily, and am usually in control of the things around me. I am a 'Type B' person, and work well with others; that is why I find the 'gargoyle like' situation somewhat unnerving. (Then again I saw Nancy Reagan on the tube the other night, and that is somewhat "gargoylish").

O8)

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 11:59 AM
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28. I've had serial dreams
I believe they are related to the deja vu experience.
But that's just me and my life speaking.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 12:59 PM
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31. By "Serial Dreams", do you mean ones that continue...
from a specific previous dream, and 'add' to the story? That is interesting. If that were the case with what is happening to me now, I'd like to see how things turn out.

Anybody else out there have, "Serial Dreams"?

O8)
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 01:29 PM
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35. Yes, repetitions of the same theme in serial form
at times during lifetime, sometimes having a profound deja-vu effect involved or intense feelings about strangers or first-time event experiences.

Does any of that register???
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 04:10 PM
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38. I've had deja-vu experiences, but not for a LONG time...
There are some 'close' deja-vu themes over the past couple of years, but nothing like I recall from the past, where I had literally "felt like I had been in that situation before" type of thing. I think it comes from close relationship things as opposed to actual deja-vu.

Definitely something to think about though.

O8)
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 12:59 PM
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32. Sorry, deleted dupe...
Edited on Sun Feb-01-04 01:02 PM by rasputin1952


n/t
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 01:24 PM
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33. I often have dreams about driving a car
They are always very vivid and while I describe them to someone, the meaning finally clicks. I have learned that these dreams are about the direction I am taking in my life and they are usually warning me that in some situations I take too much control of someething when just being a passenger works out better.

Dreams, hunches, gut feelings, etc. are how the sunconscious communicates with the conscious mind. Dreams are weird and seem to employ a lot of symbolism because the conscious mind has to make some sort of sense out of the messages it's receiving. The symbolism is more meaningful to you than anybody else. A repetitive dream may end or change when you've figured out what the symbols mean so that seems to be what you need to do. I would suggest you keep a dream diary and eventually something will click about this dream unless it's just as simple as "stay away from Free Republic."
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 04:15 PM
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39. LOL....Stay away from FR!...
That is the stuff of Nightmares!

One good thing about FR though.....I could NEVER lose an argument there! :eyes:

O8)
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