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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 04:08 PM
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Math people out there: How would you solve this problem.
Okay, this was an extra credit assignment that my teacher gave out. I worked on it for a while (ALG 2 btw) and got a couple pages of notes, before finally getting it right.

I want to see how y'all would have progressed and done the problem.

You have a circle with a radius of 1. Inscribed within this circle is an octagon, each of the vertices's touching the edge of the circle. Determine the area between the vertices's and the circle (Or find the area of the circle and take from that the area of the octagon).
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 04:11 PM
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1. I'd have cheated off the smart girl directly to my left.
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:39 PM
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10. It would have been 'cute' more than smart though
There aren't any other girls around me, so smart wouldn't have been an option.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 04:14 PM
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2. I would have focused on the first quadrant.
Set up a quarter circle centered at the origin, draw three vertices: (1,0), (sqrt(2)/2,sqrt(2)/2), and (0,1). Then use those to make two triangles which form a quarter of the octagon.

Which means I get pi - 2sqrt(2).
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:19 PM
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5. Well played, and that's the right answer.
I made a square in the center, found the sides, and then made four kites out of the octagon.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:09 PM
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11. Woohoo!
And geometry's my weakest subject! (Mathematically speaking.)
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 04:23 PM
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3. Simple
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 04:40 PM by jasonc
Find the area of the circle and the octagon, subtract octagon area from circle area and get an answer.

Octagon area: http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/QQ/database/QQ.09.01/laurie2.html

Edit: Area of the circle is 3.14 A=(pi)R^2

edit, answer coming soon, I just figured out how to get it, draw straight lines from the vertices to the midpoint, you will form triangles with two sides equal to 1, get area, add up, and then subtract.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:01 PM
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4. I got it
want to know how?
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:22 PM
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7. I finished it and turned it in, I was curious how DU would do it though.
Answer is pi-2*sqrt2 correct?
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:21 PM
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6. Yea, but where's the fun in simple?
yea, but you can't determine the base or the height of those wonderful isosceles triangles with the information given.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:28 PM
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8. Extra extra credit question
The problem, as stated, doesn't say if the octagon is regular/equilateral (all sides the same length)(I'm not sure which is the proper word). Does it matter or is the answer the same for any octagon?
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:38 PM
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9. That was my mistake. Yes, it is regular.
However, as long as they had the same area, it wouldn't matter. Finding that area is a whole 'nother concern if it is irregular.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:11 PM
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12. It's definitely a regular octagon...
I saw a box of Bran Flakes next to it!
:)
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carly denise pt deux Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:16 PM
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13. let me get out my protractor, compass, slide ruler
the hypotenuse is connected to the pi, the pi is connected to the right angle, the right angle is connected to the Isosceles........oh, I used the math tools as drum sticks while I sang my ditty....I have no idea what the answer is, I would have to ask my kid, who would probably know the answer. I stopped helping her with her math in the 3rd grade.
Carly
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:58 PM
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14. It's a simple SAS trig problem
There are 8 indentical isosceles triangles. We know the interior angle and the length of the two sides. Compute the area of the triangle, multiply by 8 and you have the area of the octogon.



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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:02 PM
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15. Simple - find area of circle and subtract area of octagon.
Not very difficult, since the octagon is a regular one.
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