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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:28 AM
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Anything as/more reliable than a Honda?
Those who care about performance, safety or stylishness of a car may not choose a Honda... but mine is at 220,000 miles, and frankly, I want another car that will give me that kind of bang for the buck.

What other car makes/models TYPICALLY last more than 200K miles?
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:29 AM
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1. Ive had great reliability from a Toyota Corolla
and I got 200K+ out of a Ford Explorer, but I think that was not typical.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:28 PM
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13. I bought a brand new
1979 Toyota SR-5 pickup (in 79.) Put 180,000 miles on it and sold it to a shipmate in 1991 (for practically peanuts) when I bought a new Chevy Truck. My old shipmate is still driving the old SR-5. Toyotas get my vote of approval. My wife is looking at a new Honda Civic, and it gets all the up checks from consumer articles.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 09:51 AM
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36. *wrong place*
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 09:53 AM by Deep13


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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:29 AM
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2. Yes. A Toyota.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:07 PM
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18. Yep... with little maintenance too
:thumbsup:
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:32 AM
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3. My wife just traded out of a '94 Toyota Celica
It had over 220k miles on it and still ran like a dream. No mechanical problems to speak of, either.

We now both drive Hondas (Me: Ridgeline, Wife: Element) and are hoping for similar durability.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:37 AM
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4. Toyota
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:37 AM
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5. Ford/Lincoln/Mercury large sedans
Crown Vics and Town Cars. Totally bulletproof engine-wise and very cheap to maintain. Also incredibly safe in an accident.

Not so hot on gas, but not really bad for the size either if you take care of them.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:38 AM
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6. I bet you can get another 100,000 out of the Honda
unless the interior is trashed or something, consider putting a little money in the Honda and driving it a few more years. That's earth friendly. :)
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:39 AM
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7. Toyota, Volvo
I had a Volvo S70, T5, with a 5 speed manual. I donated it at 175,000 miles - with the original clutch. I mean, Volvo built a clutch that lasted 175K miles!!!

I had a Toyota Corolla that I picked up with 90,000 miles on it. I gave it away with over 200K miles on it.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:41 AM
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8. yes, a toyota camry
or many toyotas, but i'm a camry man.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:53 AM
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10. I recently bought a Camry Hybrid
it now has 1900 miles, and I just put in its fifth tank of gas........And they're very comfortable.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:28 PM
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14. That's what TM drives.
Great car.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 02:03 AM
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27. This is too easy
I'll try and hide this thread matcom for you.
:D
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:52 AM
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9. Only when it comes to lawn equipment.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:21 PM
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11. I don't even like Mercuries (Mercurys?) and I've had two with >350K n/t
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:27 PM
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12. 1987 Ford Thunderbird
At 253,000 miles the head gasket finally blew.

Everything in the engine and transmission was factory original. A lot of the accessories were replaced (brake master cylinder, alternator twice, water pump twice, fan belt idler pulley, distributor cap, radiator) but the engine mechanicals, the camshaft and crankshaft and rings and seals and pistons and valves and pushrods and rocker arms and timing chain, were all factory original.

Synthetic oil is a wonder.


And my 1989 Olds Regency just passed 182,000 miles. The interior is shit, it stills starts right up, has plenty of power, and only a small anti-freeze leak. And I got 26 MPG on my most recent tank of gas.

Beater pride, man, beater pride.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:17 PM
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19. I had an '87 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Darned-near bulletproof, until that sneaky patch of black ice at 187,000 and change.

I wept that night.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:21 AM
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20. I know, right?
I had the unfortunate luck to hit an Audi and a Volkswagon on two seperate occasions. On my car, that piece of silver trim in the front bumper got a little patch of spiderweb cracks. On the German cars...

Well, it wasn't pretty. Disjointed bumper and crumped fender on the VW, and the bumper on the Audi suddenly matched the V-shape of the T-Bird's bumper.

:-)
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 05:02 PM
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31. What I liked about the '87 and '88 T-Birds
was that beak, especially on the Turbo Coupe, the headlights had an almost sinister look to them.

Looking at some pictures, it has a seriously dated interior (not surprising for a twenty year old car), but the exterior is still very nice to look at.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:38 AM
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33. I thought the exterior lines were very graceful
Mine had the aluminum 14" rims with the seven holes bored in them. I think with the same rim style in 16", it would have been just about perfect.

The inside was okay. The placement of the mirror controls kinda sucked. In my car, which was my mom's car beforehand, they were ruined because my mom would put her fruit on the controls and the juices gummed up the works. But the seats were very comfy, and unlike the stalks in GM cars of the era, the writing on them didn't wear off.

And the automatic headlamps were great! I miss those...
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:31 PM
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15. subaru, toyota
I had bad luck with my honda (I just did not want that car by my then husband insisted on honda) - I traded it in as soon as we got separated and got my subaru.

My toyota went over 200k and my subaru is pushing that right now.

Those are the only three cars I have ever owned in my life - and I am 38.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:59 PM
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16. I'm at 252K+ on my Honda Accord
Loves me some Honda!
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:07 PM
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17. SATURN!
1997 SL1, 40 mpg and runs like a sportscar.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:31 AM
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21. My wife had a 1993 SL1...we got her a minivan and the Saturn was going to
be my "to and from work" car. We had it all tuned up and it ran like a champ.

That is, until some pencil necked chickenshit hit it while it was parked on the street (hit and run) and totalled it.

Man, I miss that car!
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:59 AM
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40. I'd say Saturn, yah!
My husband's neglected and neglected his and the dirty little thing still hasn't turned on us. Messy as it is, I have to love it :loveya:
He recently changed from jobs where he parked to a job where he drives half the day and it's still going.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:39 AM
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22. I'm at 175K on my Toyota Corolla
With no real problems (knock on wood) but shit, I just had a leaky power steering hose replaced and that shit was 300 bucks! x( Half of which was for the f***ing hose! x(
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:42 AM
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23. Oh, but the interior is strangely trashed.
All the panels have fallen off. It's truly odd. :shrug:

And my mom's Honda Civic drove like a tank until the timing belt gave way.

RIP Honda Civic. :cry:
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 02:50 AM
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29. Wait till you have to replace the...
starter-- $350 and up
crankshaft balance dinguses-- 400 and up (I forget what they're actually called)

radiator, water pump, timing belt, other whatsises... 3 Corollas and everything on a Toyota costs more than on my Saturn or my chevy van. Except oil changes, but the local Saturn dealer gave me a free carwash with the change, so that was worth something.




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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:46 AM
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24. The car gods have been good to me
Edited on Thu Oct-11-07 12:47 AM by libnnc
I drive a '93 Eagle Summit wagon. No longer in production but has a Mitsubishi engine if that tells you anything.

Just turned 173,500 miles last week. Had some transmission work done at 90,000 miles. Need to get the horn fixed but that's about it.

I've been a lucky ducky.

edit to add: my next car will probably be either a Hyundai or a Honda
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:56 AM
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25. all of them
take care of them and they'll run til they rust out. Been true for fifty years. I put 250K on a 1972 Ford LTD that I bought with over 100K. After its been paid off for a few years, the occasional major repair - say up to a thou - is still better than car payments. So get the engine flushed, get the trans rebuilt, etc, and just keep driving and driving.
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SoCalDemGrrl Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:02 AM
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26. Prius & Lexus - Toyota rocks!
Although I had a Honda Accord which was very reliable too.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 02:41 AM
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28. I drove my brother's hand-me-down 1990 Accord until it went kaboom
three months ago. And by kaboom, I mean some dumbass in front of me in a big van decided to stop at a green light on a wet road with no warning. And the van was big enough that the bumper went right over mine. Not a high-speed collision by any stretch of the imagination, but they ended up with a few scratches on the bottom of their bumper... and I ended up with the first 6 inches of the engine block above my bumper crunched back.

Other than that it was a tough little thing. Another big-ass van rear-ended me at a stop light a few months before that (of course, when I stopped at a stop light, it was because the light was RED.) and it didn't even leave a scratch. Enough force to push me forward four or five feet, but not a mark on the car.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 05:34 AM
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30. Toyota
I've got over 240K on my '86 4Runner. Not even any signs of body cancer (rust). Given regular maintenance & oil changes, that little R22 engine just keeps going.

And yes, I use the 4WD. Backpacking and canoeing takes me onto roads that would destroy mortal vehicles.

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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 05:28 PM
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32. Toyota.........maybe every third nissan
I've had a Honda accord that had 246k when I sold it.
I now have a honda accord with 126k
I had a civic in college with 160 +/-10k
And once a Sentra with 132k

I've never owned a Toyota, however.com I know they kick ass when it comes to quality.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 09:21 AM
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34. My dad drove a 1994 Dodge Caravan for 240,000 miles
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 09:23 AM by PeterU
It didn't have its first breakdown until after 200,000. Say what you will about driving a minivan, but he kept it up well, and it treated him well in return.

Hondas? Eh. I've always found them pretty ugly in styling. I have no desire to buy one myself. But they have a good reliability rep and the Civics get good mileage, so if that's what you want, go for it.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 09:23 AM
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35. Hondas are pretty safe. nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 09:56 AM
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37. a tale of two cars
When we bought a VW Jetta station wagon in 2002 (model year 2002), my 1978 Nova which was on its last legs (rust &c). I wanted a small wagon to transport my telescope to dark sites. Since the passanger truck craze was in full swing, few small wagons were available. We eventually settled on the VW. It's efficiency is okay at 29 highway and 22ish city.

Shortly thereafter in winter of '03/'04, my wife's '92 Chev. Cavalier had a major engine failure (after a mere 127k miles). It was rusted out too and had horrible crash-test data, so we scrapped it. The replacement was an '03 Honda Civic Hybrid. It was the first model year with a brand new drive system.

Since then I have had the following problems with the VW:
A/C inadequate in summer.
Heater inadequate in winter.
Recommended oil, 5W40, not available until recently.
No room in front seat with rear seats folded flat.
Wiper motor came off in a snow storm 600 miles from home.
Rear hatch lock was defective.
Doors lock when warming up the car when door is closed from outside.
Door remote never works well.
Defective coil ($300!!) and plug wires ($100), <60,000 miles.
Requires its own brand of coolant.
new muffler
new catalytic converter
Some of these things were under warranty, but that's not the point. These things should not be failing on a car that is almost new. The warranty did not do much good when the wiper motor fell off during that snowstorm. I crept home with my head out the window. I owned three Novas in a row, all with well over 100k miles. I have never had to replace a converter or an ignition coil. I have never had a wiper motor fail. And all that electronic door shit? Cars without it don't have problems. When I did have problems with Chevy, I did not need to buy new parts in Euros. That was the 1970s. The '92 Cavalier rusted out quickly and had an engine failure after a crummy 127k miles.

I have had these problems with the Honda:
Uses a weird 0W20 oil.
Tiny rust spot on trunk.
And this is on the first production year of a brand-new drive train.

I will never buy another American or German car.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:34 AM
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38. I just bought a Honda Pilot.
It had 30,000 miles on it and I want at least 150,000 more. I want this thing to last me until the last kid is out of college. He's in 1st grade now. Driving roughly 10,000 miles/year, I should barely squeak by in terms of my goal. :D

My mom just got rid of her Accord after 17 years and 200,000 miles. Those things are great. Toyotas aren't bad either, but my Honda experiences have been even better.
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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:43 AM
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39. Pretty much anyhing, if you take care of it.
You have to work pretty hard to buy a total POS these days.
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:04 AM
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41. Subaru
Just got another one...I love it and they are all wheel drive
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