Boxed wine

[Deja Q]

:beer:

[alarimer]

1. Depends

There are some pretty good ones out there; they are more expensive than, say, Franzia (which my mother drinks daily- yuck).

[Guava Jelly]

2. Wine is probably the only thing i am prudish about

No Boxes,Twist tops(I need a cork),or whites.
I prefer non domestic wines but i have had a few notable ones.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

8. I make an exception for the screw off

top ---- There is an excellent white, Kim Crawford New Zealand Makes it: http://www.kimcrawfordwines.co.nz/popup_2005_marl_sauvignonblanc.htm
One of the best in its price range --- goes great with just about everything.

No Boxes unless I am duct taped into a room waiting for the terrorist attacks.

[Mz Pip]

16. Screw tops are

becoming more popular. Wineries lose about 10% of their wine to bad corks, so the trend toward the stability offered by screw tops will just increase with time.

I really hate it when I've chilled a nice bottle of wine and then the cork falls apart and wine tastes like bad sherry. :puke: Stores will take back bad wine but it's still a hassle.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Guava Jelly]

22. I have noticed rubber and polyurethane corks a lot lately

That should fix the decaying cork problem.
I will have no choice eventually i guess

[Lex]

28. I've read that natural cork is becoming scarce

and that's why the switch-over.

[triguy46]

49. Much Aussie and NZ wine in screw capped. No loss of quality or flavor.

[pitohui]

56. well not using cork will not help the cork forest habitat

if we want spain and portugal to preserve the cork forests, then we need to support them so people can make a living, these aren't "agricultural deserts" like a pine tree forest, they are the only remaining habitat for such rare species as the iberian lynx

we do need to support cork, maybe not every time, we all have budgets, but we should not turn away from cork altogether -- if we do that land will be turned into something else and the habitat lost

the current droughts are also harming the cork forests

[Guava Jelly]

19. When i open a bottle of wine with a cork

It is like a celebration.
When i twist a top off it takes part of the magic away.
I will eventually come around.

[BarenakedLady]

10. Gimmie something new to try.

I like heavy reds.

:D

[QueenOfCalifornia]

13. For around $7

Smoking Loon makes a good Cab or a Merlot ---

[IntravenousDemilo]

35. I've noticed lately that a lot of people have trouble with the word Sauvignon.

Even on Food Network. I think I've may even have heard Emeril (who is no stranger to French, and a chef, and thus should know better) pronounce the first syllable with a short "a" instead of a long "o", and it's really grating. Tyler Florence does it as well.

Sacré bleu! I guess I've been conditioned to being brought up in a country where there's a sizeable French population.

[BarenakedLady]

47. Thanks

I'll check those out.

[Guava Jelly]

26. sure

Ruffino Chianti is a good one for about 11 bucks
Norton Malbec is good for under 10 bucks
I would try almost anything from the Mendoza region.
:hi: bnl

[BarenakedLady]

48. Thank you dearheart.

I'll put those down on my list.

:hi:

[baldguy]

11. I spent 7 yrs as a professional wine snob

I remember when composite corks were introduced & the controversy they caused.

Now, you don't even think about it. What matters with wine is the wine - not how its packaged.

[Deja Q]

12. Package a quart in glass, another quart in plastic, wait a month, and taste both.

Trust me, plastic is not suitable for maintaining the taste of a product. Chemicals leech into the drink...

[baldguy]

17. Thats why a mylar bag is used.

Its chemically inert, and reduces the transmission of light and oxygen to the wine.

[Lex]

21. Exactly. Very nice.

We have enjoyed some great boxed wines over the last few years.

[Guava Jelly]

27. Point taken

I will miss the cork when it is no more though.

[lost-in-nj]

40. You should try

Rustenberg
Stellenbosch Chardonnay
from Stellenbosch, South Africa

Very different taste than American Chardonnay
When I buy a domestic wine its Covey Run chardonnay
from the Columbia Valley
both of these are 2004

maybe you should try white again..... :)


I drink white because all I have to do is smell red wine and it gives
me a headache.... :silly:
:hi:

lost

[NaturalHigh]

3. I don't really like wine, so I'm not an authority on the subject.

If they put beer in a box, let me know.

[Catshrink]

6. Beer here!

I agree -- I'm not much for wine but am a total beer snob.

[Catshrink]

4. Remember Walter Matheau bringing Sofia Loren a box of wine?

Grumpier Old Men. I loved that movie -- I swear the Walter Matheau character was based on my dad.

[AlCzervik]

5. i have never had box wine but now i would like to try it.

[Lex]

9. Check this out.

Wine in a box: Upscale wineries trade cork for cardboard

As Americans stock up for family gatherings and parties, wineries in California and Australia are giving us a taste of how grape lovers in many other countries purchase their wine - in a box with a spigot.

The latest "bag in a box" wines, so-called because of the wine-filled bladder that comes inside a box, have come a long way. The new ones are from top producers, made with premium grape varieties and vintage-dated. They are not the sweet pink mystery wines that Americans are conditioned to seeing in a box.

In fact, they aren't even called box wines anymore. The preferred name is "cask" wines.

"Cask wines are the hottest trend in Australia and the U.K.," says Marc Jonna, national wine buyer for Whole Foods Market, with 145 stores in the United States and one in Canada.

[Lex]

7. Box wines are much improved of late and are perfectly acceptable

if you choose the good ones.

People who are stuck with the idea that you need a true cork or a bottle in order to have a good wine are stuck in the 90's in their wine knowledge.

[OzarkDem]

25. Haven't tried them since the '80's

they were pretty bad then. What do you recommend?

[Lex]

34. Some good ideas here

in this article http://www.slate.com/id/2146720

But I like to experiment to see what I like, which is part of the fun of wine drinking to me.

[OzarkDem]

37. Thanks

I'll make sure to check out that part of the wine section next time.

[Tian Zhuangzhuang]

14. Am I the only person here...

Who has ripped open the box and squeezed another glass or two from that silver bag inside?

[Mz Pip]

15. Me, too

What often feels like empty usually isn't. Kind of like milking a cow...:-)

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Deja Q]

18. I've seen the bags within and did my share of squeezing...

It's not in the shape of the udder's teat...

[Mz Pip]

24. Perhaps not the same shape

but the hand motion is the same. Squeeze from the top, pull down, release, repeat.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Tian Zhuangzhuang]

42. Here is the offending udder

Kinda looks like a blood bank display I guess that is why many companies use opaque bags. :7

[Deja Q]

46. Are you single?

:evilgrin:

[Mz Pip]

61. Heh, heh...

Married 32 years. :evilgrin:

But if Mr Pip ever gets run over by a truck, I'll look you up! :-)

Mz Pip
:dem:

[pitohui]

57. no you're not and i'll go you one better

after squeezing out all of the wine then i saved up the mylar lining for a homemade solar cooker!

can i make a dollar cry tears when i squeeze it? you'd better believe it! :-)

[sasquatch]

20. As Midlodemocrat would call it: "A spacebag"

:D:evilgrin::rofl:

[Midlodemocrat]

29. Douchebag. I never called it that.

:rofl:

I prefer Barefoot in the bottle.

[sasquatch]

30. Liar, liar, pants on fire

:rofl:

[Midlodemocrat]

31. Oh, yeah? Well, your mother wears army boots. Take. That.

[sasquatch]

44. Don't make me get matcom down here.

:evilgrin:

[OzarkDem]

23. I prefer French

because they usually don't have a lot of crap additives that give me headaches after a glass or two.

Its easy to find inexpensive French table wines.

[IntravenousDemilo]

32. Yes, I'll have to get some boxed plonk for my next wine and Velveeta party. n/m

[Lex]

33. hmmmm

Wine in a box: Upscale wineries trade cork for cardboard

As Americans stock up for family gatherings and parties, wineries in California and Australia are giving us a taste of how grape lovers in many other countries purchase their wine - in a box with a spigot.

The latest "bag in a box" wines, so-called because of the wine-filled bladder that comes inside a box, have come a long way. The new ones are from top producers, made with premium grape varieties and vintage-dated. They are not the sweet pink mystery wines that Americans are conditioned to seeing in a box.

In fact, they aren't even called box wines anymore. The preferred name is "cask" wines.

"Cask wines are the hottest trend in Australia and the U.K.," says Marc Jonna, national wine buyer for Whole Foods Market, with 145 stores in the United States and one in Canada.

[IntravenousDemilo]

36. But the bag is made of PLASTIC, for shit's sake. That can't be good for any wine -- yeesh! n/m

[Lex]

38. wrong again

read upthread

Baldguy who was a wine professional for many years said:

"Thats why a mylar bag is used.
Its chemically inert, and reduces the transmission of light and oxygen to the wine."

[IntravenousDemilo]

41. As far as transmission of light goes, I'll bet the box helps, too.

Still, it would remind me of drinking out of a hot water bottle, and I'd rather pour wine out of a glass bottle, which I truly trust to be chemically inert as well as not déclassé.

Funny thing is, I don't have a major problem with artificial corks or screw-caps, as long as the container itself is made of glass.

[Lex]

43. cool

to each his own

My whole point, which was probably badly made (and I apologize for that), is that boxed wines now days shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.

It's a green/Earth friendly thing too:
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/04/french_rabbit_s.php

[IntravenousDemilo]

45. I can't drink red wine anymore in any case, or I get all stuffed up.

White wine, that's OK.

Speaking of being Earth-friendly, a couple of months ago, the province of Ontario finally started recycling wine and liquor bottles, and I was glad to see that! A deposit has been added to the price of the wine or liquor, just as it had been with beer all along, and you get it back when you return the bottle to the LCBO.

Now if only we still did that for pop, I'd be over the moon.

[dropkickpa]

39. It's multipurpose!!!

When yer done chugging, take the foil bag out of the box, blow it up, and you have a pillow!!!

[Xipe Totec]

50. Safer to carry in a backpack n/t

[GirlinContempt]

51. Tetrapacks and boxes never enter my house.

I don't care if the best Australian wine in the world is in there, I still hate Australian (and American and Canadian) wine and I've never had shit out of a box that I'd take more than one sip of.

[Lex]

53. I used to be sort of tightly wound about what was acceptable

but then I met some real wine professionals and learned to loosen up and really enjoy wine and be interested in it in a more open-minded and global way--Chilean, Spanish, German, etc.

I'm the same way about food too--interested in what is out there to sample and what different places have to offer.

[GirlinContempt]

60. It isn't about 'acceptable'

it's about tasting like ass :P

[TK421]

52. It depends if you are looking to go cheap...then go for something like Peter Vella

or something like that........some of these can do in a pinch.

If you're looking for a special occasion, then don't go for boxed wines ( although, some boxed wines will do nicely )..




http://www.blackboxwines.com/index.shtm?month=8&day=25&year=1975


Then you could look at this site

[Vilis Veritas]

54. I guess I am a traditionalist...?

I like the ceremony of opening a good bottle. Inexpensive reds and whites can be had, although I prefer red. Properly aged. I usually buy cheap good reds that age well. I prefer bottle, you turn them occasionally for various reasons - my mom's reds (she makes her own) are really wonderful...I recently uncorked a 7 year old bosenberry...oh my god...it was like ambrosia and the buzz was slightly hallucinigenic...probably just me...

Cheap good wines aged properly are better suited to bottles. Boxes are meant for wines that are to be drunk at earliest opportunity.

To note: after reading this thread, I will try a wine bag once I get some people together that are up for the task...or cask, as may be...;-)

Great OP HypnoToad...

No Fear...

[Debi]

55. The only liquid item in Midlo's survival kit

[sasquatch]

58. LOL!!

:rofl:
That's what I said.

[Mutley]

59. Screw it.

If I really wanna get lit, and I'm really low on funds -- why the hell not?



Luckily, I don't desire drunkenness very often.

[DarkTirade]

62. Boxed wine is blasphemy!

I'm no snob, but there's a limit. :P