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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 01:28 PM
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How can I get my friend to see the harm in this email

She sent it around to her usual distribution list, because she thought the "facts" about Iraq were interesting. I emailed back "Ugh, pro-war propaganda". And included a link to the photo of the woman crying over her son that's on the greatest page. She wrote back and said, "I'm not political, I just thought it was interesting".

What can I say to her, without making her defensive, to show that sending this email is nothing but politcal?


Read all of this one, it is interesting!!




Read down to the very bottom highlighted in green, IT'LL GIVE YOU GOOSEBUMPS!!!




You don't want to miss this! ((*_*) )


VERY INTERESTING-

1. The Garden of Eden was in Iraq

2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization!

3. Noah built the ark in Iraq

4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq

5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq !

6. Isaac's wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq !

7. Ja cob met Rachel in Iraq

8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq

9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel

10. Amos cried out in Iraq !

11 Babylon , which is in Iraq , destroyed Jerusalem

12. Daniel was in the lion's den in Iraq !

13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the Fiery Furnace!)

14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the "writing on the wall" in Iraq

15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq

16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq ..

17. The wise men were from Iraq .

18. Peter preached in Iraq ..


19. The "Empire of Man" described in Revelation is called Babylon , which was a city in Iraq !

And you have probably seen this one: Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible.

But do you know which nation is second?

It is Iraq !

However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible.




The names used in the Bible are Babylon , Land of Shinar , and Mesopotamia ... The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris
And Euphrates Rivers ..




The name Iraq , means country with deep roots.

Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible.

No other nation, except Israel , has more history and prophecy associated
With it than Iraq

And also, This is something to think about:Since America is typically represented by an eagle.




Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages ...



Koran ( 9:11 ) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle.. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah;

And there was peace.
(Note the verse number!) Hmmmmmmm?!

I BETTER NOT HEAR OF ANYONE BREAKING THIS ONE OR SEE IT DELETED.




This is a ribbon for soldiers fighting in Iraq ..




Pass it on to everyone and pray.




Something good will happen to you tonight at 11:11 PM .




This is not a joke.




Someone will either call you or will talk to you online and say that they love you.




Do not break this chain.




Send this to 13 people in
The next 15 minutes.




Go.

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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 01:29 PM
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1. I hate chain letters
Superstitious nonsense
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 01:31 PM
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2. Send her the actual text of the Koran 9:11
"But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know."

Not quite the same.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/quran911.asp
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 01:32 PM
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3. Send her the snopes link on that one
Once she realizes most of it is untrue, (notably the part from the Koran is made up) she should realize that whoever sent her that is manipulating her for political purposes.
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regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 01:34 PM
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4. Snopes 'em:
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 01:47 PM
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6. Another homie for snopes!!!
How 'bout those Phils - no one I would rather see them sweep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love snopes. Send it out all the time. Gets me taken off everyone's "forwarding" list, which is fine with me.
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regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 02:14 PM
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8. Droppin' snopes bombs, yo! :-)
Still not feeling confident about the fightins given the pitching, but yeah, way to stick it to the Mets!
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 02:29 PM
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10. Being a lifelong Philadelphian, I'm never confident about anything
regarding our city's sports teams. Have had defeat snatched from the jaws of victory too many times.

When I was a tiny little girl - still in my crib, my Dad would come home from the road late at night and come into my room to kiss me goodnight and tell me how the Phillies did - it was often the only time I saw him weekend to weekend. That year, he assured me they were going to "win it all", but then they went and lost something like 15 games in a row, and my poor dad had to face his little girl, gripping the sides of her crib asking him hopefully every night "did they win, Daddy? Did the Phillies win?".

So anyone who has been a fan since that horrible 1964 season (even a tiny, tiny little fan) knows not to get their hopes up. (I still call my Dad after particularly exciting games)

This summer, I saw them ask Charlie what he wanted for Father's Day, and he just growled: "Pitchin'"
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 01:35 PM
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5. why do people believe the crap in these emails?
:shrug:
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 01:48 PM
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7. yes, Snopes! Thank you!
She's already recalled the email and for those where it went thru ( She actually got another complaint - which is good ) she's going to send the snopes link.

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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 02:14 PM
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9. I hate these bloody things
And automatically delete anyone who sends them. It's spiritual/emotional blackmail, and most of them are right wing-nut propaganda. I even delete the ones that purport to originate from the Dalai Lama (though I do open his snail mail).

Thank goodness for Snopes!
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 02:31 PM
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11. Snopes em! (nm)
x
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 02:34 PM
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12. Forget about the politics, it's just a stupid fucking chain letter.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 02:48 PM
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13. My response.
"VERY INTERESTING-"
Not really.

"1. The Garden of Eden was in Iraq"
If it was anywhere it was in Africa, but it was not anywhere.

"2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization!"
true

"3. Noah built the ark in Iraq"
Noah is as mythical as Hercules or as Zeus giving birth to Athena from his head.

"4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq"
Tower of Babel was also mythical. See #3.

"5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq !"
See #3.

"6. Isaac's wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq !"
I don't know that Nahor was in Iraq or even if it existed at all.

"7. Ja cob met Rachel in Iraq"
I'm sure a lot of Jacobs met a lot of Rachels in Iraq and elsewhere.

"8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq"
*sign* See #3.

"9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel "
Assyria was more extensive than just Iraq. I don't know if they conquered the Hebrews or not.

"10. Amos cried out in Iraq !"
I thought he makes cookies.

"11 Babylon , which is in Iraq , destroyed Jerusalem"
I don't know if that is true or not. If the source is Biblical, I will point out how often Biblical sources for history have been proven wrong.

"12. Daniel was in the lion's den in Iraq !"
Mythical. See #3.

"13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the Fiery Furnace!) "
So this is where we just make shit up?

"14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the 'writing on the wall' in Iraq"
See #3.

15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq
So is there anyone in the OT who did NOT carry the ancient Jews into captivity?

"16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq .. "
No one knew what the hell he was talking about back then either.

"17. The wise men were from Iraq ."
The wise men are mythical almost certainly invented after the fact to show that JC was worshipped by kings.

"18. Peter preached in Iraq .."
Possibly, but I am unaware of any evidence for it.

"19. The 'Empire of Man' described in Revelation is called Babylon , which was a city in Iraq !"
Which means what exactly? Empires are always of men (and women).

"And you have probably seen this one: Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible."
Since it was written by Israelites, I guess that is not much of a surprise. The myth of the founding of Rome mostly mentions *gasp* Rome.

"But do you know which nation is second?"
Judeah?

"It is Iraq! However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible."
North America was not always called that either. So what.

"The names used in the Bible are Babylon , Land of Shinar , and Mesopotamia ... The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris And Euphrates Rivers .."
Wow, right there in River City!

"The name Iraq , means country with deep roots."
I'm sure the writer of this chain letter is fluent in Arabic.

"Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible."
There's probably some astonishing revelation at the end of all this.

"No other nation, except Israel , has more history and prophecy associated
With it than Iraq"
Wait for it!

"And also, This is something to think about:Since America is typically represented by an eagle."
As was Rome, Germany, Austria, Poland, Imperial France, Russia....

"Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages ..."
Well, somebody should have read to him as a child. And Barbara should not have held Bush's head underwater when he was young.

"Koran ( 9:11 ) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle.. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah;

And there was peace.
(Note the verse number!) Hmmmmmmm?!"

What a load of crap. Saddam did not even do 9-11.

"I BETTER NOT HEAR OF ANYONE BREAKING THIS ONE OR SEE IT DELETED."
Or else what?

"This is a ribbon for soldiers fighting in Iraq .."
Have they run out of bandages?

"Pass it on to everyone and pray."
Let's see, how do I hang an air-freshener on this? Pray for what, our own forgiveness in starting this horrible war? Mmmm. Mountain pine.

"Something good will happen to you tonight at 11:11 PM ."
Yes, but it has nothing to do with you or your imaginary god.

"This is not a joke."
No, sadly, I would be laughing if it was.

"Someone will either call you or will talk to you online and say that they love you."
My wife usually mentions it, but not online or on the telephone.

"Do not break this chain."
Let's see, how can I put this? Fuck you.

"Send this to 13 people in
The next 15 minutes."
See previous response.


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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 02:53 PM
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14. Deprogramming is your only hope
This is why I think children shouldn't be exposed to religion. It should be like drinking and voting, and have a minimum age requirement. Because it can damage the thought processes irreparably, until people believe garbage like this without question.

Since Iraq is such holy ground it seems to me that to do what the Americans are doing and destroy it flies in the face of it's sanctity, i.e. the U.S. is committing an immoral act with this war. Seems simple enough.
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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 03:05 PM
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15. it's like a giant non sequitur
what a bunch of hogwash
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 03:55 PM
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16. Someone sent this to me last year.
Tell your friend that Jesus was not in the Firey Furnance (#13) because he wasn't born yet. So what's the big deal about Iraq...you heard those stories in Sunday School. Now, as far as the Wise Men being from Iraq....maybe one...the others were from India and China. That's what they were on my Christmas Card.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 04:17 PM
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17. You probably can't. I don't even try anymore.
The fact that your friend is so gullible as to be impressed by this (info from both the Bible and the Quran are wrong in this thing), probably means that logic won't work. I'd just let it go.

But that's me.
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