You're so vain -- to whom was Carly referring?

[CatWoman]

My first poll!!!!!!!

Vote early and often :D

http://www.turnto10.com/entertainment/2379835/detail.html

[short bus president]

1. and there you have the correct answer

with one vote in, and 100% of the votes going to JT.

;-)

[catpower2000]

2. I'm confused by this poll...

It's not like an opinion question, it WAS about James Taylor. It's a fact.

Cat

[Sequoia]

5. James Taylor Vain?

I find that hard to believe when I listen to the words of the song. None of those actions seem to fit him. Come on, a lear jet, hob knobbing with spies...can't be him.

[CatWoman]

7. That's not what the story says

check the link.

[catpower2000]

10. Wow, I see! I have been minsinformed!

That pisses me off because I've been going around for years saying I knew for sure it was Taylor. :) I hate when I read stuff that's not true!

Cat

[msanger]

19. I hate it when I KNOW stuff that's not true n/t

[Az]

54. Um, she hadn't left him when she wrote the song

In fact they had just gotten married.

[nuxvomica]

3. Actually, the song is about me

But then again, everything is, now isn't it?

[JeniB]

56. Yes, of course it is!

Why would anyone write about anyone else!!

BTW, did I miss it when you knew her?

[Rhiannon12866]

65. Wow! Congratulations on 100 posts, JeniB!

I'll bet you never even noticed. Isn't this cozy?:hi:

:toast: CONGRATULATIONS! :bounce: 100 POSTS! :wow: WOW! :bounce: JENIB MADE 100 POSTS! :wow: CONGRATULATIONS! :toast: AND MANY MORE! :kick:

[phillybri]

4. Warren Beatty

Who told you guys it was definitely James Taylor???

[catpower2000]

6. I'm looking for a link...she definitely said so in an interview...

I remember reading it, because I had wondered about that for years. Common sense said Warren Beatty, since she had dated him around that time, and he was known to be a real shit. But she definitely said it was Taylor. Hang on, I'm still looking.

Cat

[CatWoman]

8. I've always thought it was Mick Jagger

[Gato Moteado]

21. it's about warren beatty, but jagger.....

...is singing backup on the recording.

[CatWoman]

40. Hi Mike

:hi:

[Gato Moteado]

52. hi honey

how are ya?

[CatWoman]

62. hanging in there

and trying to be nice while posting in GD :evilgrin:

:hi:

[playahata1]

58. Jagger merely sings background on the song.

If "You're So Vain" was indeed meant to be a slap at Jagger, he would not have agreed to be on the record.

[catpower2000]

9. Huh, the only links I can find...

say that she said it WASN'T him. I know I remember reading she said it was him, but perhaps the article I read was wrong. Supposedly it's still a mystery.

Well, now I understand why there's a poll. :)

Cat

[foo_bar]

11. canonical non-answer

http://www.carlysimon.com/vain/vain.htm

[mourningdove92]

13. I was always under the impression it was

Kris Kristofferson

[CatWoman]

14. Kris Kristofferson???

hmmmmmmmm.................

should I add him to the poll??

[foo_bar]

18. and Cat Stevens

cause there's a million ways to go, you know that there are. ;)

[radwriter0555]

16. Kris hit on me... well, LEERED at me, is more like it....

I was at a show of his with some industry folks and he wouldn't stop LEEEERING at me while I was offstage. It was nasty. I was only 22, and he was old, drunk, wrinkly and nasty.

Ew. That always creeped me out.

[mitchum]

22. I bet that was creepy

I've always thought of him as a perfect example of early promise dissipated away by self-indulgence. A former Rhodes scholar who really did revolutionise Nashville songwriting, only to become an embarrassing drunk and...THE WORLD'S WORST ACTOR

[playahata1]

59. Kristofferson -- RHODES SCHOLAR???

Well, that's news to me.

[mitchum]

66. Hard to believe, but it's true...

he also taught lit at West Point

[Demobrat]

33. You think that's gross?

I got hit on by Dick Clark. I was 23. He was about a million.

[bocadem]

26. OMG look how tired she is

of being asked that question... as the decades progress... lol

[THUNDER HANDS]

12. nope

She's definately admitted that she WON'T say who it was.

[CatWoman]

15. Read the link, Jason

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

17. He's so vain he even thanked her for the song!

Jeez I thought everybody knew THAT!!

[matcom]

20. OJ SIMPSON!!

silly :P

:bounce:

[CatWoman]

23. ah, just like the good ole days

Mat "Threadjacker" Com.

:D

:loveya:

Did you retire the Mattsignal??? :D

[matcom]

24. THIS old thang?

[CatWoman]

27. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:loveya:

[rasputin1952]

30. Great pic Matcom!...

I can always count on you for something interesting!


BTW CW...you look great!

[chimpymustgo]

25. Neil Young's name popped into my head. ????

It's all so long ago and far away.

[opiate69]

28. Actually,

I'd be happy if she would just explain the whole "clouds in my coffee" bit... I mean, how the hell did that slip in there??

[rasputin1952]

29. LOL!...

I've often thought of that as well...what IS with the 'clouds in my coffee' bit.


As an aside...what's up with the song, "A Horse With No Name".....
"For there ain't no one for to give you no pain". It's almost as if bush wrote that little gem.

[Jawja]

31. CatWoman,

it's James Taylor! That was the big story when the song was released....

[opiate69]

34. hehehe...

maybe we should start a "stupid lyric" thread...

[DrBB]

43. Um, shear pretentious mid-70s pseudo-poetic gobbledy gook?

That's what I always thought it was.

[SOteric]

46. When you pour cream into coffee

it' billows through the hot liquid forming what look like cumulous clouds.

I'd always taken it to mean that the "Cloud Castles in the Sky" kind of phantasies young women in love tend toward (what if one day we marry and have children, I wonder if we'll live together, vacation in France together, etc...) were unnaturally small based on how self-obsessed she thought the dude was.

[ScreamingMeemie]

32. Don't they have a contest going right now, I think I read about it in the

paper, that one winner will go to her house for dinner and she'll reveal the name and sing the song. The winner has to sign a statement saying they won't reveal the identity. I think it's in this week's People.

[iluvchicago86]

35. Richard Nixon

Just like in the movie!

[Bossy Monkey]

36. I always heard Don McLean

but one-hit wonders can't afford Lear jets. Anyway, a new name for you to consider.

GF says James Taylor did fly to Nova Scotia around that time, but Lear jets don't sound much like his style either.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

44. No silly that was KILLING ME SOFTLY

the first time Roberta Flack heard him sing AMERICAN PIE. BTW...don't you be dis'in Don McClean...I LOVE that guy!

[Spirochete]

37. I always thought...

that it was about me. does that mean I'm vain? hehe

[stlsaxman]

38. Mick Jagger... The dj's always said it when it was released...

THAT much I remember from the '70s ;)

[Aristus]

39. I've only ever heard that it was Warren Beatty.

Well, it makes sense doesn't it?

[Throckmorton]

68. Funny, I heard it was Ned Beatty,

And I should know, I went to Junior High School in the same building as all three of Susan St. James and Dick Ebersols kids. I also argued cases against lil Petey Ebersol in Litchfield Superior Court, well not actually argued, but I was in the building at the time. So, therefore I ought to know.

[priller]

41. Someone please explain something to me

Alright, she says the guy is "so vain" because "I bet you think this song is about you, don't you". But, the thing is, the song *is* about him, so is he really vain if he picks up on this or is he simply perceptive?

I probably think to logically about things, but this song never made much sense to me.

[TrogL]

60. It's a conundrum

It's word play.

[ForrestGump]

42. I always thought it was about (almost said Ned) Warren Beatty, though

I also heard the Jagger and Taylor versions (even though Mr Jagger sang backup). So maybe it's all three, and then some.

[SOteric]

45. I dunno...

few could "out-vain" Warren in his heydey. Dish magazines have made a point out of Jagger's apparent certainty that he's an ugly blighter who wouldn't have gotten half the attention he has if he weren't a rich rock-n-roll star. Warren's always been a pretty boy and up until Annette, he has sooooooo played the field.

[NightTrain]

47. How the hell can you have "clouds in your coffee," anyway?

n/t

[salin]

67. spoilt milk, perhaps?

;-)

[Rhiannon12866]

48. I knew it was Warren Beatty.

James Taylor was merely her husband.

[salmonhorse]

49. Pixie says...

Jagger ~

[MRDU]

50. It's all about HER!!

Who's SO vain now? After 30+ years of this crap, WHO CARES?

[Terwilliger]

51. I thought it was talking to me

that song always bothered me...

"no I don't! I said I didn't... STOP STAYING THAT!"

So, was the song about Sweet Baby James?

[CatWoman]

63. Have I got a Barry Manilow song for you!!!

:loveya:

[LuLu550]

53. If we already knew for sure

Why would she be auctioning off the answer??
Just wonderin' :shrug:
LuLu

[CO Liberal]

55. When That Song Was a Hit.....

...I was still a Catholic and a member of our church's Folk Group. We used to provide the music at the 10:00 Folk Mass every week. One of the parish priests served as our advisor. He was a bit of an egotist, so when he wasn't there we used to sing a version of "You're So Vain" about him:

"You're so vain, you probably think this Mass is about you".....

:-)

[slackmaster]

57. You're all SO wrong

It was about ME!

[Loonman]

61. You're so lame....I bet you think this song is about you

nt

[anti_shrub]

64. According to Mother A_S

Its about George Hamilton, who fits the lyrics of You're So Vain a lot closer....

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

69. I don't think it was about JT

Because he doesn't strike me as a vain person. I think it was either Beatty or Jagger.