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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 08:46 AM
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Oh, for the love of God - Perry Farrell says he "created the music industry" (Lollapalooza)
I'm watching "Icons" (Discovery Channel, maybe?) show, and the feature is the creation and history of Lollapalooza. Perry Farrell, of Jane's Addiction (the guy who started Lollapalooza), is the featured person on the show.

In the first few minutes of the show he kept talking as though his was the first big rock fest ("We were doing something new; we didn't know if it would work; we didn't know if people would come to a big three-day rock fest; we didn't even know if the lights would turn on, this was all so new a thing" and so on).

And then, he had the audacity to say - and I quote - "We created the music industry".

What a jackoff. What an arrogant, pissy little jackoff. No, wait, scratch that - he is one of the biggest douchebags ever. And a jackoff. He's a jackoff douchebag.

Yes, jackoff douchebag Perry Farrell, there was no music before Lollapalooza. :eyes: Thank you for doing what the Beatles and the Stones and the Yardbirds and the Grateful Dead and Janis Joplin and the Doors and Hendrix and Santana and Country Joe and the Fish never managed to do.

Douchebag.

Makes me even all the more happy that I never went to one of those shitty "rock" fests.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 08:47 AM
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1. He may be a douchebag but he's also a fricking musical genius
Go figure
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 08:48 AM
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3. a fricking musical genius?
You gotta be kidding.

RL
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 10:28 AM
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7. House hunting has made Sissie lose her mind
I was afraid this would happen.

:cry:
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 10:43 AM
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8. Being the singer in a great band doesn't make one a musical genius.
Edited on Mon Aug-06-07 10:44 AM by asthmaticeog
Navarro *might* have been a genius, and the synergy of the original lineup was certainly brilliant, but Perry Farrell is in no way a musical genius.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 10:44 AM
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10. I'm not saying he isn't an asshole - I just think he's also extremely talented
Edited on Mon Aug-06-07 10:44 AM by LynneSin
Being an asshole and a genius sometimes go hand in hand.

But this is coming from a gal who has an avatar from the man who said "I am a Golden God"
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 10:46 AM
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11. I'm not saying he IS an asshole.
He probably is, but I didn't say anything about his personality, even in the pre-edit version of my post. He's got a cool voice, and he's not untalented, not at all, but he hasn't written even passable lyrics since "Ritual De Lo Habitual," and Porno For Pyros was just a fucking sad joke. Don't even get me started on the preposterous, Eric A-less Jane's "reunion." :puke:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 03:34 PM
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18. Your avatar is Russel Hammond?
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:17 PM
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25. Meh, when it comes to Hammond, the money quote is really "I'm on drugs!"
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:42 PM
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29. Huh?
OK, he had a few decent albums with Jane's Addiction, but a genius?

Dylan? Check. Lennon? Fine. But Perry Farrell? Ummm, no.

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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 08:48 AM
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2. Jane Says
that Perry Farrell is a douchebag...

:hi:

RL
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 08:52 AM
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4. I thought I was the only one who thought so.
:rofl:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 09:40 AM
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5. Very good - thank you!
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 10:24 AM
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6. I personally like Jane's Addiction (mainly for Dave Navarro's
superlative guitarwork), but I've always foound Perry Farrel to be a completely affected "artist-type" AKA a professional weirdo.

Dave Navarro still absolutely rocks the shit, though!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 10:58 AM
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14. Yes!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 12:51 PM
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15. Douchebag Farrel very much came across as an affected "artist-type" in the show
The kind of affected "artist-type" who's actually a talentless douchebag, and so has to LOOK like an artist and TALK like an artist, because what he actually does doesn't say anything.

Total poseur.

Seems like what he's really good at is self-promotion and business.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 10:43 AM
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9. He's been caught stealin'
credit for creating the music industry.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 10:57 AM
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12. Created the music industry? Three-day rock festival something new?
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 10:57 AM
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13. Uh...
okay. :crazy:

I'm sure Bill Graham would have something interesting to say about that...
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 01:37 PM
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16. Holy fuck I don't even know where to start.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 03:30 PM
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17. Thomas Edison, Columbia Records and the Victor Talking Machine Company created the music "Industry"
And this nonsense about festivals......

Montreaux and Newport jazz Festivals.....

Newport Folk festival.....

Monterey Pop

Woodstock

Live Aid

etc etc etc etc......



What a Blowhard

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 03:51 PM
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19. The Muslims in medieval Spain (al-Andulus) created the music industry.
Their music and poetry focusing on love and beauty inspired the troubadours of Languedoc, who created the courtly love movement of the late Middle Ages, which created the whole concept of silly love songs. The troubadours also toured the country, singing for money before live audiences. Some even became wealthy at it. They had a reputation for debauchery that included booze and seducing young women in every town. Love songs, concert tours, booze, groupies... There's your music industry. :)

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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:08 PM
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22. Why do you hate America????
Medieval Groupies, gotta love that......
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 03:51 PM
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20. It just drives home the fact that bands today have no historical memory or idea where they came from
The old rock stars knew where they stood - on the shoulders of the rockers who pre-dated them, and going further back, on the shoulders of the black blues artists of the Mississippi Delta and other southern areas.

I doubt that if one did a survey of modern day bands if even 1 percent of them would know that rock came out of the blues, let alone know who Howlin' Wolf or T-Bone Walker or Blind Lemon Jefferson or Robert Johnson or Lead Belly are, or Django Reinhart. Hell, they probably wouldn't even know about a little band called the Yardbirds.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 03:56 PM
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21. Jane's Addicition is my fifth favorite band ever.
Perry is a bit of a dick and a complete egomaniac but his music is fucking awesome. "Nothing's Shocking" and "Ritual de lo Habital" are absolute genius masterpieces.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:16 PM
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24. I think so too
their music sounded different from other bands, and still does...I think Farrell couldn't even articulate what his message is because it's probably not conscious, he is just a really unique artist. I think it's weird for him to say that about 'creating the music industry'...
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:21 PM
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26. Yes, it's a silly quote.
But you have to take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:36 PM
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27. he definitely never has come off as a
'genius'...as far as what he 'says'. But his musical vision is quite different. I don't remember there being anything like them before or since, really, they were a completely unique band. I guess someone can correct me if I'm wrong about that and there is some underground, alternative band that Jane's Addiction ripped off, who eshewed (sp?) record labels and may still be playing in a garage somewhere today...who knows. I just know that they sound as new to me today when I listen to them as 20 years ago, their music doesn't sound 'dated' at all to me.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:14 PM
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23. He created the music industry?
Well I think it's pretty obvious we need to go back in time and kill him before he gets a chance, because the music industry sucks.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:37 PM
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28. yeah, the two terms "music" and "industry"...
Kind of like "oil" and "water"... :shrug:
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