Have you heard that kids are getting potty trained later these last few years?

[raccoon]

A co-worker said he read that in a baby magazine. I mean, magazine about babies. :silly:

[femmocrat]

1. I have heard that from Kindergarten teachers.

I have no idea what it means, however.

P.S. Is this a copycat? If so, please disregard my reply. :shrug:

[raccoon]

2. Nope, wasn't a copycat. nt

[havocmom]

9. Yep. Helped pre-school teacher out and parents expected we had time to potty train.

Three and a half is minimum age for the preschool. About a third weren't really ready to be out of diapers. About half weren't real reliable about getting to bathroom on their own when they needed to. The kindergarten teacher does not have it much better.

Those diapers & throw away undies don't help. When a kid stays dry and comfy no matter what, there is little incentive to pay attention to messages from their bodies and get to the potty when they are at the stage where they can control bladders and bowels. Thinking a child will potty train themselves is foolish.

Thinking a child just will just magically learn all the stuff they need to know is foolish. It sets everybody up for a lot of kids who haven't been taught anything because somebody assumed a kid will somehow 'grow up'. Big news: growing is NOT the same as growing up. Kids need attention & parenting.

Parents too busy to do laundry so kids get to feel WET when time comes to get them potty trained? To busy to take charge, monitor, and remind youngsters to go potty? Then, they are too busy to raise kids and probably shouldn't have them.

Too busy working too many hours to be able to afford all those disposable things that are full of crap.

Too busy to potty train means too busy to do the other child rearing stages.

OK, flame away. I don't mind, and I'll probably be too busy to reply to the enablers. :hi:

edited for duplicate pharse

[susanna]

21. OK, I'm giving myself away...

as a genetic anal retentive.

According to mom, I potty-trained myself at two. I hated certain qualities borne by my diapers (full and/or wet). So I figured out the adult method of handling it, and had no trouble; I was in pre-school at three and kindie at four, never a changed diapie in the mix.

I guess I'm shocked by this thread; are there really are that many 3 to 4 year olds who have NO idea of how to handle this?

I have no children myself, which makes this thread interesting to me as an observer. I guess I'd like to understand why children aren't trained at that stage?

on edit: clarity

[MissMillie]

10. my son was trained by 2

and not through anything I did. He was in a daycare with other kids and when he saw other kids using the potty he wanted to use it too.

[Fire Walk With Me]

3. Just when we'd managed to get Vitter off of our minds and out of our threads

;-)

[mopinko]

4. that's good.

i have known a few idiot who made their babies sit on the potty chair not long after they learned to sit up. and people who thought one year olds should be all trained. it is the parents that are the one getting trained at these ages, not the kids.
the thing about this is the unrealistic expectations they have, and how visceral the reaction is when they are not met. seen too many reports of murdered kids where the beating started with a kid wetting their pants.

[momophile]

5. my girl is almost 2 and she is giving us the signs

that she is ready. not peeing through the night; interested in what a toilet is; tugs at her wet diaper. I think it's about time for us to start. I guess I should read up on it first, though.

[kath]

19. IMHO, this is one of the best articles on toilet training ever - Dr. Barton Schmitt is one of my

mega-heroes (I was a pediatrician in a former life...) His advice on just about any topic under the sun is sooooo good. His book "Your Child's Health" is probably the best book a parent can buy. Some smart pediatricians give every family in their practice a copy of this book.

Anyway, here's the first of two great articles by him on Toilet Training:
Title is "Toilet training: getting it right the first time"
http://www.americanbusinessmedia.com/images/abm/pdfs/events/neal_library/Contemporary%20Pediatrics--Class%20A%20Cat%205--1.pdf

The second article is about toilet training resistance - I'll try to find a good copy of that online, on a no-registration-required site.

IMHO, your instincts are correct. Like so many developmental stages, there is a period when a kid is READY (to give up the bottle or pacifier, or thumb-sucking, to start toilet training, etc), and if you miss that chance it becomes much harder to take that step later on, often ending in wicked power struggles and kindergartners who are still not potty-trained - YIKES! and 3- 4 year old kids who talk with a pacifier hanging out of their mouth or carry a bottle around all day. NONE of these are appropriate, all are fairly easily preventable **if the proper parental interventions are applied at the proper time**.
You gotta seize the moment!

[kath]

20. Here is Schmitt's second article:

Titled "Toilet training problems: Underachievers, refusers, and stool holders"

http://www.americanbusinessmedia.com/images/abm/pdfs/events/neal_library/Contemporary%20Pediatrics--Class%20A%20Cat%205--2.pdf

[momophile]

31. thanks so much for the articles, kath

I'm going to print them and read them today and then maybe we'll start potty training soon!
:hi:

[Breeze54]

22. Truth! My youngest son trained inside a week, at 20 months, on his own!

I kept saying, "P...U!!" and he'd laugh and I'd sit him on the pot.

Literally, one week later?

He was trained and dry through the night from then on and we never looked back!

I didn't use gimmicks or candy or any of that. Just humor!! :P

The older two? They were potty trained before age two also.

[skygazer]

6. Oh, good, something else to fight about

:popcorn:

[redqueen]

7. hahahahaha

:crazy:

[LostinVA]

8. I know -- yummo!

This may even be better than some of the breastfeeding threads.

:popcorn:

[Parche]

11. Trained

Thats a real pisser............:silly: :hi:

[Oeditpus Rex]

12. Maybe it's connected to kids breast-feeding until they're 19

"You can get off one when you get off the other, and Mommy isn't ready to let go."



:popcorn:

[LaraMN]

13. It's just my kid offsetting the median.

*sigh*

[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. yes because of the comfort of the modern diapers

[Deep13]

17. Known to environmentalists as landfill-stuffers.

So if landfills are for solid inorganic nontoxic waste ("trash"), how does one dispose of a padded bag of hman waste?:shrug:

[Deep13]

15. When is Bush going to start?

Seriously, the wet spots in the Oval Office are embarassing.

[quiet.american]

16. Yes -- my mom had us all trained by a year-and-a-half or so --

My sister didn't start potty training until her kids were 3 years old. When my parents expressed surprise over this, they received the reply that "that's normal." I guess it is, because her friends' kids are also still running around in diapers and they're between 3-4 years old.

[dropkickpa]

18. Dropkid was trained by 2.5

I threw out the pack of pull-ups when she asked for one so she could go potty.:eyes: Went to the old-school heavy cotton training pants, potty training for pee was done in about 2 weeks (she'd been dry overnoght since about 1 year old). Poop took about a month to get started, 2 months to be fully trained. She was scared to poop in the toilet until some sneaked out during a pee session and she didn't die.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

23. Is this Vitter's latest excuse?

[TroubleMan]

24. The parents are working so many hours nowadays - don't have the time to spend.

At least that's probably what's going on with my daughter. She's 18 months and she has her little baby potty. She tries to go to it a lot, but with my wife working all night, my step-son (16 years old) is watching her. He's not attentive to it as I or my wife would be. I get home around 8PM or 9PM (I leave around 8:30AM), so I can't spend that much time with her either. If we weren't both working 50-70 hours a week, then she would have been nearly potty trained by now.

I have a wife and kids in a bush economy....that means I have to work extra long hours just to make ends meet.

[Breeze54]

26. 18 months and potty trained is wishful thinking!

A little to young to make that connection just yet.

You can do it in a three or four day weekend. Plan ahead.

You still have time and forget the 16 yr. old doing it.

It's not his job.

It comes from the child wanting to please the parent, not the brother.

Make time!!

;)

[TroubleMan]

27. She's actually ready. She's been way ahead on all the physical stuff.

Every time she's not doing anything too engaging and she feels it coming on, she tries to run to the little potty we bought for her. However, during the day my wife is sleeping (because she works all night), and the door is shut so she can't get to it. We're just in a bad situation right now because we're both swamped with work.

I'm not going to rush her, though, but she seems to be pleased when she uses the potty. When my wife and I can afford to cut back on some work hours, I'm sure she'll go right back to it.

[Breeze54]

29. I was a single parent. Working and going to school full-time.

If she is showing interest, as most girls do before boys, then seize the day (as they say!)...now!!

You'll save tons of money on diapers and day care costs go down when the child is toilet trained!

Isn't there a long weekend coming up soon? Get rid of her bottle and pacifier too, if she still takes one.

That will clinch the deal. ;) Good luck!!

[KT2000]

30. My great-nephew

was 18 months. He was getting his bath and all of a sudden stood up and said something that made the sitter think he had to go. She took him to the toilet and he has done that since! The sitter has already raised her own three kids and had not seen this before.
Maybe the changes are on the older side and younger side too?!?!?!

[SPKrazy]

25. i think that disposable diapers

are so extra absorbent that the kids don't mind getting wet because they don't feel much.

so it makes it harder for the stimulus response reaction to take place.

cloth diapers on the other hand let you know right away that er, YOU'RE FUCKING WET

and then that gives incentive

:shrug:

[WCGreen]

28. That explains the puddles in the men's room,,,,

[elehhhhna]

32. Lou lou wouldn't poop in the toilet (2 1/2) until my Mom

came to babaysit for a weekend and told her she really didn't want to wipe a pooy butt.

Lou was trained from that day on.