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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:40 PM
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Racist POS.
This fucker killed a 60 year old corrections officer here in Salt Lake today. Then went on a high speed chase before finally getting tackled in an Arby's. I'm not a supporter of the death penalty, but I'd like to think there's a special room in hell for scum like this and the sooner he's there, the better.



What an ugly fucker.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070625/ap_on_re_us/medical_center_shooting
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:46 PM
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1. I'm sure the jury will see him as a clean-cut, young, American man.
Jesus, he would be better off wearing one of those Mexican wrestler masks to trial.

D.A. to the victim: "How can you be sure this is the same guy?" Wow.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:47 PM
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2. The fact he ran from the police boggles the mind.
Did he really think he could blend into the crowd? Ok, Utahns are white, but we aren't crazy, honkey, racist white like this nut.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:49 PM
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3. Nothing a shot-gun blast to the back of the head wouldn't take care of.
But, Oh lets rehabilitate him... :eyes:
What a piece of shit.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:45 PM
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14. Rehabilitation implies prior habilitation...... n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:53 PM
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4. Looks like a bright enough fella
:eyes:

Actually he looks like a wanker wannbe
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:54 PM
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5. Sometimes you CAN judge a book by the cover...
Yikes!! I see him walking down the street..I go the opposite direction..fast:hide:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:57 PM
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6. It looks like someone doodled with a sharpie all over his face
If your gonna tat your face at least have some sort of function to the tats you're putting on there instead of giant scribbles that says "I'm a dumbass"
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:02 PM
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7. Modern prisons are terrible.
They are intensely racially segregated. Those strong enough to defend themselves on their own can do so, but everyone else has to group up for "protection". Those divisions are primarily along racial lines nowadays...the Aryan Brotherhood is really big in all of the US prisons, offering to help defend whites for a simple pledge of loyalty. The blacks and hispanics have their own gangs, and other prisons have large asian gangs.

The self-segregation is appalling, and it's worsening as time goes on. Tattooing like this is a fairly normal way to mark yourself for protection (though this particular guy seems to have taken it to extremes). The ironic thing is that many of these guys WERE NOT racist when they were originally incarcerated. The racism was imposed on them by the modern prison system.

Even our local county jail here has to segregate prisoners. Blacks go in one wing, whites and asians in another. The hispanics are on a different floor, divided between a Norteno and a Suereno/MS13 wing. No mixing is permitted, and even their outdoor rec times are staggered to keep them from bumping into each other. Despite that, the county honor farm had a lock-down earlier this year after a race riot between the Aryan Brotherhood and a black gang left a couple of black men seriously injured.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:16 PM
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8. Xithras, there is NO FUCKING WAY
that someone who's not racist but has pledged to AB for protection is going to get an entire face-full of swastikas and iron crosses. This guy is obviously the real deal.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:21 PM
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10. Maybe, maybe not.
There's no way to know. He may be the real deal, or he may be some loser who got himself tattooed up to overcompensate for his perceived weakness and "prove" himself to his fellow gang members. It happens.

The fact that he killed the guard does prove that he's a grade A scumbag though, so it's probable that you're right. Still, talk to any doctor that performs tattoo removal and they'll confirm that there's big business in removing racist or gang tattoos from people just released from prison. Lots of guys do it just to survive, but aren't the real deal.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:31 PM
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12. I'm not saying people wouldn't get tattoos that were anathema
to them for the sake of survival. I'm saying that getting the entire face and head covered is several clicks beyond that.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:36 PM
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13. There is a way to know, because he had these tats LONG before entering prison.
Edited on Mon Jun-25-07 02:36 PM by Drunken Irishman
He's been affiliated with the Aryan Brotherhood and was thrown in prison for a parole violation.

Here's his mugshot from 2006.



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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:27 PM
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11. racism is the coin of the realm
in institutions.

if you remain unaffiliated, shit gets rough for some guys.

it depends on the prison too.

supermax gladiator academies are run by the gangs.

the hacks are in on it, they often get caught up and either bring in dope or have allegiances to one or another type of gang.

people have the impression that inmates (not saying that you do) are stupid. in fact, they are some of the shrewdest, most conniving bastards out there.

the profound intricacy of psychological manipulation, information gathering, and social networking is truly breathtaking.

these "gangs" even have reading lists. they get into machiavelli, walt whitman, nietzsche, sun tzu, and the law. even if they are of low intelligence, being an effective convict means being able to fake your way through anything. these are people who have no probably with selective conscience.

the same person who will stab an enemy in the yard 37 times with a scraped toothbrush is more than likely the same guy who would defend a child to the death. it's a really fucked up morality, something a mainstream suburban, safety conscious citizen type will never be prepared to understand.

i don't condone it, but i understand it.

there are some high caliber predators out there. i'm not lauding them for this, but in a way i am. for society's refuse to be that resourceful and maintain some kind of pride while being underneath the system, let along outside of it, says something about the tenacity of the human will.

even if the net result is patently offensive and despicable.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:17 PM
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9. the bulls count on this
if they're busy shanking each other, a c.o. is less likely to get lit up.

still, violence against staff is prevalent too.

i've heard of situations where the hacks will set up "punk pens" and set up disrespectful inmates to get gang raped or beaten for a host of "infractions."

they reward the guys who carry out orders with cookies or sneakers or some shit.
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