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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:15 PM
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I need help on making a decision on a job offer
My job deals in creativity and art.

One job offer would expand my talents and I would learn new things along with the talent that I already have. I would be using my art skills for presentation work for the company and I would also learn from the head of the department and pick up his ideas and some of his skills. I would have to move to Florida for this position.

Over the weekend I was offered a job in my hometown which means that I wouldn't have to more.
There is no creativity involved at this job and all it is is basic artwork with templates on how they want things done. There is no room to learn or for expansion.

Which job would you take the one at home or the one that you have to move out of state for?
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:18 PM
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1. E-X-P-A-N-D your horizons.
There are a lot worse places to move than Florida.
What part?
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:20 PM
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3. Orlando
I have never been to Florida and I would have to pick up stakes and move my three cats to Florida.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:18 PM
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2. Take the creativity building one...
Sure you have to move, but it might set you up for something even bigger and better later using your newfound skills.
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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:22 PM
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4. Look for the Stable Company
I would look at the two companies and decide which is the more stable.
In this economy---right now... that's the way to go. Talking from experience here.
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:24 PM
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5. They both are stable
One is owned by a huge corporation the other is a small company that is stable.
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:48 PM
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12. If you go with the huge corporation
Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 02:49 PM by Squeech
make sure it doesn't have a history of layoffs. Especially if that's the job you have to move to Florida for-- if you had to pull up stakes and move to a brand new community where you didn't know anyone, sign a lease or take out a mortgage loan, and then be left without a job in a year, you could be hurtin'.

On the other hand, you could be in the vanguard of the Democratic resurgence in Florida in November-- if the touch screen machine deigns to count your vote :-)

My advice is free, and worth every penny.

On edit: good luck, whatever you choose!
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:25 PM
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6. whatever pays most
thanks
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:26 PM
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7. Try new things!
That's my motto. Go for the creative job.
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ArmchairActivist Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:30 PM
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8. Blossom where you're planted...
Why rip out whatever roots you've established in the community you live in now only to start over someplace else? We move around waaaay too much in this country, sometimes.

Just another take on things,

-AA
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:41 PM
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9. I don't know how old you are, or if you have other
committments, but if you are young and single with no kids and no mortgage, go for it!

Seriously, how tied-down are you? If you're not really tied-down, now is the time to explore everything. Take a chance, and if things aren't to your liking, move back home. It really does get harder to pick up and move once you've got kids, spouse, mortgages, etc

OTOH, if you like your hometown and want to stay, then stay. I'd move back to my hometown in a heartbeat, but I'd also have to take a 30-50% paycut to find a job in my field. With two kids, that's hard to do.

Good luck!
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:48 PM
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11. I have no commitments but I am 39
I am trying to get past a one sided friendship with someone that lives in another state and I need a change right now but Florida may not be the answer.

I love my hometown but my bones are starting to get old and it's below zero here right now. Florida sounds good but I don't have any friends there and the family that I do have in Florida I have never met.
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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:44 PM
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10. If you like where you are stay
Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 02:47 PM by Virgil
There is such a thing as self-learning and community colleges and then there is the Internet. You need a reason to move and not a reason to stay. It would be more complicated than that though and if you are staying with mom and dad, I would leave.
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:50 PM
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13. I have a degree
I also do volunteer work at the shelters here and I would miss helping out but they have shelters in Florida also.

I have no reason to move and I don't have a reason to stay either.



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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 03:09 PM
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15. something to be said for familiarity
Well, then, I think you should think about what a support system is worth. I got transferred around a lot early in my career (a big corporation) and while the pay and benefits were great, such moving around leaves a person without any type of support system. There is much to be said for familiarity.

You won't realize how much you miss your support system until it's gone. Even such things as knowing your way around a grocery store or knowing the friendly guy at the newstand become big things when you're in a town where you know no one.

Another thing is that once you're established in a new community, it's harder to pick up and go back. So if you ever want to move back to your community, it won't be easy.

Yet another thing is the job market in the new area. Even though you have a job now, you have to look at as if you might again be looking tomorrow. From what I know about FL, the salaries are low because everyone wants to live in the sun.

You can always work to make your job more creative and as the poster above pointed out, there is self-learning. You can also keep your eye out for a more creative job in your current community.

FWIW, I think it's a great idea to ask here. You get a lot of different perspectives.


Cher

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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:58 PM
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14. Practicalities: Do you have the money to move?
Will it make money tight temporarily or put your finances in peril?
If debt, do you think it will be worth it? Debt can often overshadow what should be a great experience.
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 03:29 PM
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16. I don't have the money to move
I think that it is best that I stay where I am at.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 03:42 PM
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17. I hope
my post wasn't too much of a downer. Some things are worth the risk and some things aren't, but only you can decide that. There's a lot of good ideas in the posts here on how to broaden your horizons at home. :) Best wishes in whatever you decide to do.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 04:00 PM
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18. Two job offers, good for you
I understand your dilemma. I am job searching too. Generally if it is a position that I'd have to move for, they'd either better have a relocation package or pay significantly more. Moving, especially a long distance, can be expensive. You will also need money up front for a down payment if you buy or two months worth of rent to get an apartment.
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:29 PM
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19. I wish they were offering that kind of package
The only thing that they are offering is opportunity to work with the best.
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 12:14 PM
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20. just a thought
Generally speaking, the option that you write down first is what you really want.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 12:59 PM
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21. I'd definitely take the one
I'd have to move out of state for, you may have to relocate, but you'll be stifled and trapped in the other job, and will quickly become very unhappy.
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:02 PM
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22. I screwed up big time today
They wanted a phone number and since my phone has been cut off I couldn't give them one so I rescheduled the interview. They will be back again in 2 months.
I am stuck in the cold town forever.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:04 PM
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24. Uh Oh!
Anyway you can ammend that?
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:06 PM
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26. I got the job but they can't let me have it
So I am stuck in this cold town but I don't mind I am use to my area. I will be here until the day I die alone.
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:11 PM
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28. I will wait the two months
I am going to try saving up to get my phone reinstalled again.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:02 PM
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23. Honor creativity above all.
Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 01:03 PM by rbnyc
I'm not a big fan of Florida, but I am a big fan of not living in one's hometown, and I'm a huge fan of jobs that let you grow and be creative.

Definitely move and take the better job.

EDIT: Plus, you HAVE to listen to me because I designed your avatar! ;-)
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:05 PM
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25. I am a f..k up
I wanted the job in Florida so damn bad and they are here for a few days but you have to have a phone for the relocation part.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:10 PM
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27. I have a pre-pay cell phone.
It didn't cost that much to set up. It's a pretty good solution for a person who can't afford a deposit or a monthly bill. It works great for me because I only need to make a few short calls each day, if that many. Look into it and maybe you can avoid this kind of thing in the future.

You'll get another opportunity. Don't worry.
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:34 PM
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29. I am going to get a cell phone
I have to save up for a few weeks and I am going to buy a cell phone package. Which one should I look into getting and how much do they require down?
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:41 PM
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30. It depends on your credit.
My credit blows, so I can't get anything but a pre-pay without putting down $500.00. If you do look into pre-pay, I'm pretty happy with T-Mobil. But if I had the means, I'd shop around.
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:46 PM
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31. I went to the mall the other day
I applied for a cell phone over the weekend and the guys computer started smoking when he ran my credit and I swear I saw flames shooting out of the back of it. When he came back he told me that I would have to put up $400.00 dollars and that I would get it back in one year. If I had $400.00 dollars laying around I would have paid my phone bill.

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