Healing vibes and thoughts for GOPisEvil, please.

[Madrone]

While he's supposed to be leaving on a jet plane any second now, he's actually back at my house in bed and floating away on percocet. We spent last night in the ER, and it appears that he has a kidney stone. He is not released to fly until it passes, and we have no idea how long that may be. In the meantime, I have to go to work each day so I can't be there to take care of him as I'd like.

Let this be a lesson in "be careful what you wish for." All yesterday afternoon and evening he kept saying how he didn't want to leave today ... well... we know how that turned out. :D

[no name no slogan]

1. You got it

poor fella.... hope he gets well soon!

[Fleshdancer]

2. OUCH!

Poor guy. I guess they can't dissolve the stone, can they? Someone told me doctors were doing that now but I never had a reason to look into it.

[Madrone]

9. They didn't say anything about doing that.

I need to take him back to the ER tomorrow for a recheck, and they will be able to determine more then regarding their next plan of attack.

[Fleshdancer]

16. I looked up the treatments and they sound promising:

He shouldn't be forced to pass it if there's no reason to IMO. This article describes the different ways of getting the stones out. If he has to go back tomorrow, it wouldn't hurt to ask about his options.

http://mens-health.health-cares.net/kidney-stones-treatment.php


Ureteroscopy. For stones in the lower tract, ureteroscopy is generally the best procedure although lithotripsy is also usually feasible and patients ordinarily prefer it. Ureteroscopy may be used for mid- and lower ureter stones. No incision is made in this procedure, but general anesthetic is still required. The surgeon passes a small fiberoptic instrument called a ureteroscope through the urethra and bladder into the ureter. The surgeon then locates the stone or stones. Smaller ones are grasped and removed with tiny forceps. Large ones are shattered with lasers or pneumatic drill-like devices. A small tube, or stent, may be left in the ureter for a few days after treatment to help the lining of the ureter heal.

[Madrone]

20. omg.

That sounds ... horrible. I guess if you're knocked out, not so much, but... :scared:

Not sure how he'd react to the idea of having that done. *I* would be freaking out at the thought, and you know men are much, MUCH more sensitive about their naughty bits. :)

Good info, and THANKS. I'll be sure to check that out and we will ask about it tomorrow.

[Fleshdancer]

37. considering the alternative....

It sounds horrible because, well let's face it, the urethra should ALWAYS be a one way street but the treatment described will be much easier on the urethra than a jagged stone forcing its way through. Whatever causes the least amount of damage is worth it.
:(

Also keep in mind this was a very quick google search so there may be better treatments out there. I recommend writing down every question you can think of to ask the doctor tomorrow and since he's high as a kite right now, he'll need you to be his advocate.

On edit: I re-read my post after posting it and I'm afraid I come across as patronizing. Please don't take it that way, that was not how I meant to sound. :blush:

[Madrone]

39. Not patronizing at ALL.

No worries - I didn't read that into it.

You are absolutely correct, too - and thank you so much for the information and the advice!

[Guava Jelly]

3. I am sorry for his pain

But i am happy it buys you guys more time together!
Vibes sent!

[Madrone]

5. Yeah but....

...it's not exactly "productive" time, if you know what I mean. ;)


:rofl:

[Guava Jelly]

7. You can still be mean and tease him though :o)

Poor fella..

[Madrone]

11. True dat.

And I really AM that evil. :evilgrin:

[SPKrazy]

4. Good Healing Vibes For GOPisEvil

and hey he doesn't have to leave... but under better circumstances would be better :D

[Shine]

6. Wishing him well....

May all pass smoothly...:hug:

[Pale Blue Dot]

8. Yikes, kidney stones are painful.

If he got one just so he wouldn't have to leave, then he must really love you. :hug:

[Madrone]

12. So I hear.

On par with childbirth, and all that.

He's pretty miserable, although after two ginormous shots in the butt early this morning he felt a LOT better for awhile. I am taking my 18 year old (a girl I've "taken on", so to speak) to visit him on June 6th for a week. Perhaps he'll be flying back with us. :)

[Pale Blue Dot]

14. Trying... so... hard...

Must not make snarky comment about "two ginormous shots in the butt"...

:D

[Madrone]

18. !!!

:rofl:

And I watched!

[Maestro]

10. Oh no!

Good vibes sent!

[huskerlaw]

13. Ouch!

I've been there...it hurts like HELL.

Tell him to drink lots and lots of water. Like, until he nearly feels sick. Unless it's too big, the only way to get it out is to pee...a lot. If it still hasn't passed when you take him back to the doctor, you might ask if they'd be willing to admit him long enough to hook him up to an IV. I had a stone that just wouldn't pass, but an IV turned to mega-drip did the trick. ;)

:hug:

[Madrone]

21. Thanks!

I will definitely keep him well supplied w/ water. I set him up w/ my laptop in the bedroom, and he's got tv so he shouldn't have to move around much. I also have some HUGE water bottles that I will have to be sure to fill up for him and leave next to the bed.

I'm sorry you had to go through that too! He was soooo sick. :( It didn't look fun from my perspective at all, and I didn't have to suffer through it.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

15. Here's a song for him...

Once upon a time you dressed so fine
You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you?
People'd call, say, "Beware doll, you're bound to fall"
You thought they were all kiddin' you
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hangin' out
Now you don't talk so loud
Now you don't seem so proud
About having to be scrounging for your next meal.

How does it feel
How does it feel
To be without a home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling kidney stone?

You've gone to the finest school all right, Miss Lonely
But you know you only used to get juiced in it
And nobody has ever taught you how to live on the street
And now you find out you're gonna have to get used to it
You said you'd never compromise
With the mystery tramp, but now you realize
He's not selling any alibis
As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
And ask him do you want to make a deal?

How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling kidney stone?

You never turned around to see the frowns on the jugglers and the clowns
When they all come down and did tricks for you
You never understood that it ain't no good
You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you
You used to ride on the chrome horse with your diplomat
Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat
Ain't it hard when you discover that
He really wasn't where it's at
After he took from you everything he could steal.

How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling kidney stone?

Princess on the steeple and all the pretty people
They're drinkin', thinkin' that they got it made
Exchanging all kinds of precious gifts and things
But you'd better lift your diamond ring, you'd better pawn it babe
You used to be so amused
At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used
Go to him now, he calls you, you can't refuse
When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose
You're invisible now, you got no secrets to conceal.

How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling kidney stone?

[Mrs.Matcom]

17. Good Vibage from the Matcoms!

Ask the doctors if they can use the sonic/sound/ultra sound/radar waves to break it up into little bits. A friend of mine suffers from them regularly and the blast him with, what ever the hell it is, to make the stones smaller so they will pass with out as much pain. If they won't do that tell them he needs MORPHINE! Christ I gave birth to a 8 1/2 pound boy with no anesthesia and it hurt like a mother...can imagine what poor GOP is going through. OUCH! :hug: to you both!

[greatauntoftriplets]

23. My mother had that done twice....

I think it's called lithotripsy. It sounds awful as it is happening (lots of BOOM, BOOM, BOOM) and she passed blood in her urine for weeks.

On edit: Best of luck to GOP.

[Madrone]

24. I have a super secret morphine stash ....

so he may be okay from that angle. Thanks for the :hug: - I hope he's doing okay now, I don't get out of work until 7pm tonight.

[blondeatlast]

19. Loads of love and healing vibes, etc. My husband has had a couple of those

ant they are just awful.

Take care, guy. :hug:

[SeattleGirl]

22. Lots of love and good vibes for my friend.

Be well soon. :loveya: :hug: :loveya:

[Flaxbee]

25. aw, poor guy. I know they really hurt a lot ...

a male family member had one/a few and apparently just felt like he had the flu on and off until it was expelled.... and then of course the process of getting rid of it was very painful. Poor GOPisEvil, I hope he feels better very soon.

[jpgray]

26. GOPisEvil rules. He gets all the best from me.

[EstimatedProphet]

27. OW! Dude! Get well man!

[SOteric]

28. Aww, Davey, -

Big hugs, best wishes for a speedy recovery, vibes and good old fashioned Catholic prayers headed your way.

And you too, Madrone, 'cause I know how hard it is to stand by and helplessly watch those you love suffer.

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

[Madrone]

30. hehe ....

Yeah, it is very difficult knowing there is nothing you can do.

I suppose this isn't the place to confess I was annoyed as hell because he was interfering w/ my sleep last night, is it? LOL In my defense, I was sooooooooo tired and I didn't really MEAN it. All I knew for awhile was that every time I'd start to doze off I'd be jerked awake - and that was about as far as my consciousness took me. Me + sleep depravation = pretty nasty combination. :)

I feel so bad that he has to deal with this, and I really wish there were something I could do to make it better. :(

[SOteric]

34. *L*

-Sounds pretty human, really. I'm sure you'll be really good to him tonight. -Just heed my warning, pamper your man or matcom will steal him away from you.

:cry:

[Madrone]

38. I vow to for now and always pamper him to the best of my ability.

If Matcom got his hands on Dave ... :puke: He'd be forever tainted and I don't think there are any antibiotics on EARTH that could clear that up. :cry:

One of the many wonderful things about David is that he knows me, and he knows I mean him no harm and that I care deeply about his well-being. He also knows I SUCK as a morning person and I am not very chipper when I'm overly tired. I love so much that he knows and understands me well enough to not take it personal. He is an amazing man. :loveya:

Glad you laughed instead of being mortified ... LOL I knew I was taking a risk posting that. :D People have been crucified on this site for much less!

[Mrs.Matcom]

42. you two owe me a new

keyboard!! I just :spray: all over mine reading about what would happen if matcom got his hands on Dave!!! OMG!! :rofl:

I am the same way when matcom keeps me up all night with his snoring. I want to strangle him! And I am wicked bitchy in the morning to him. That is when he knows he kept me up all night! :grr:

Davey knows how much you love him and don't feel guilty. :hug:

[Madrone]

43. Glad it's not just ME.

:D

Yeah, I know David does not take it personally, and better yet he has a great sense of humor. Just this morning before I left for work he apologized (I am EXHAUSTED and had to go to work!!) for everything and I told him he's a LOOOOOOOOOSER (kind of a twisted term of endearment around here). After he apologized again I told him I was just kidding, I'm not mad at all and I know it wasn't his fault - I was just hurting him emotionally so he didn't feel the physical pain quite so strongly. :D

Yes, he did laugh!

[Left Is Write]

29. Yikes! What a painful way to get some extra time together.

:(

I hope it passes soon.

[proud patriot]

31. Sending healing vibes

:hug:

[leftofthedial]

32. vibes, thoughts

and sympathy!

--OUCH!--

[matcom]

33. DUDE! This TOO shall pass!

:hide:

"But Doc, it only hurts when I pee!"

:hide: :hide:

get better asshole!

really.

:hide: :hide: :hide:

[lizziegrace]

36. And you said it with such compassion and feeling

;)

:P


:hi:

[lizziegrace]

35. Oy!

My ex-husband had (at last count)9 kidney stones in the 18 years we were married. I know what it's like to be helpless when someone is in so much pain.

:hug: to you both.

(BTW, if you ever get to the "in sickness and in health" part, you can say been there, done that. ;))

[Madrone]

LOL!

Funny you should say that because ... as we were leaving the ER he told me that this incident qualifies as a "for worse." I forgot ALL about that until reading your post. haha!

Holy cow.... NINE? I don't think I want David reading your post! :scared:

[lizziegrace]

44. Hide it from him!

My ex started passing them when he was 25. Runs in the family.

:)

[RevolutionaryActs]

40. Yeesh!

I hope you feel better soon David! :hug:

[mwdem]

41. Ouch! My husband went through that a couple of years ago.

He passed it, but it was painful. Healing vibes coming David's way.:hug:

[nini]

45. owie

:hug: for David.

he needs some Cold Stone stat!

[Madrone]

47. We just went by one of those on Sunday.

He can't see one without thinking of you guys. :)

[nini]

54. LOL

It was quite the scene and something we'll laugh about for a longgg time.

I'm sending him as much strength as I can. I know those hurt like hell though I'm lucky enough to have it not happen to me.

[Madrone]

56. Yes, you will. (laugh for a long time)

I hope I never have a kidney stone either!! I've heard all of the horrible things about them as well ... although they are supposed to be very close to childbirth pain, so maybe someday I'll get my crack at that type of pain as well. :cry:

I have an hour before I can finally go home to check on him / take care of him. :( Seems like forever. I half expected him to pop up in this thread at some point - I will have to print it out and take it home for him when I leave. :)

[Redstone]

46. My best wishes. I hear those things REALLY hurt.

Redstone

[wildhorses]

48. sending energy now ---

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~healing vibes~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[KitchenWitch]

49. I am so sorry

Pain bad, but percocet good!

:hi:

:hug:

[LeftyMom]

50. Tell him if he's trying to one-up my tonsilitis, he wins.

He's now officially king of the LDR illness horror stories. Oh, and to hurry up and get better already.

[Madrone]

51. Did you have that while you were visiting Flvegan?

Suuuuuucky.

Well, at least he should be over it before I go there in a week. I don't want him ruining *MY* vacation! :D


;)

[LeftyMom]

52. Yes, I did.

I got better quickly enough, but I looked and sounded just lovely, I'm sure. And I was very tired.

[Madrone]

55. That's horrible!

Well, I'm glad you two got to see one another....FINALLY.... even if you had to suffer through it!

Glad you didn't have to deal with it for too long.

[LeftyMom]

57. I get it almost every spring, so I knew the drill.

I think it was just being around exciting new allergens that got the inflammation started, and it was all downhill from there. Hopefully we're going to get to see each other a bit more often from now on, hopefully without too much more medical drama but I think I'll make him bring all his allergy meds out here anyhow since he's even worse than me in that department.

I'm excited for you- moving in! That's such good news.

[NoPasaran]

53. Damn, David!

Get well and get back here before I get TS'd, 'K?
:hug:

[Pied Piper]

58. If I may, my 2 cents...

I know that GOPisEvil is in a world of pain. I have suffered kidney stones for 20 years, so I am well-versed in their effects and treatments. I've had 4 lithotrypsies, and passed about 12 stones bigger than a pencil eraser (ouch!). The most painful part is when the stone travels from the kidney to the bladder, through the ureter. Once the stone has reached the bladder, the body reacts as if it has an infection: fever, discomfort, slight nausea. This phase can last from a few hours to a few days. Then, without warning, he will feel an incredible urge to urinate - the stone is ready to be released! At this point, my only advice is to shut your eyes and push hard. The harder he pushes, the sooner it is over. If all goes well, he will hear the "ping" as the stone hits the bowl, and he will heave a sigh of relief.

Kidney stones - nasty business. But as they say, "This too shall pass."

Good luck, GOPisEvil!

[Madrone]

60. Thanks SO much for that.

Having a general idea of what to expect will be most helpful! I will share this with him as soon as I get home! :hi:

[Pied Piper]

63. PS

Remind him to keep drinking lots of water, ever after he is out of pain. DO NOT stop drinking water until the stone has finally passed. My father and I have both experienced the trauma of a stone only making half way to the outside (ie, lodged in the penis itself). Make sure he has plenty of water to push the stone all the way out!

[Madrone]

64. omg

*faints*


Yes, that would be QUITE horrible. :(

[RiffRandell]

59. Good vibes and thoughts sent from us. n/t

[salin]

61. Prayers sent...

and hope that some of the 'side benefits' of the extended stay off-set the bad circumstances. :hi: to you both!

[Capn Sunshine]

62. old skool good vibes

from one old cat to another.

It's not meant as a pun, but he'll appreciate this pithy saying:
"This too shall pass"

[SarahB]

65. Hey, dude...

:hug:

I hope you get through this quickly.

p.s. Strong narcotics are your friend. Take them. And another big :grouphug: from the entire Belle/Fan clan!!!

[Zomby Woof]

66. It's my fault

:cry: I begged him to try my ultra-high-sodium and milkshake diet. Or maybe it was that Tommyburger we made him eat last time he was in L.A.

I had no idea how fragile he was. :-(

Get well soon, David-o! :yourock:

[GOPisEvil]

67. you people are SCARING ME!!

:scared:

Seriously, though, thanks for the good wishes and advice. I think I'll be needing them. :loveya:

Mmmmmm...percocet...:9

Hi honey - you're the best. Love ya! See you soon Don't forget my sammich. :P:loveya:

[Pale Blue Dot]

69. Yeah... and don't forget the 2 GINORMOUS BUTT SHOTS!!!

:rofl:

[GOPisEvil]

70. Don't laugh...

If only all butt shots felt so good. :D

[Madrone]

71. Are you in bed?

Hope you're feeling better. :* You need me to bring anything home for you? Buxom twin blondes? Porn? Booze? Rachael Ray? :D Anything at all?

Leaving in a bit. *yay*

[Pale Blue Dot]

73. OW! I have a painful kidney stone! Please send the buxom twin blondes!

OW!

...waiting...

[GOPisEvil]

76. Dude...

...your wife posts here, you know?

Send a PM for crying out loud. ;)

[SarahB]

78. That's ok.

I know the truth. He has a hard enough time keeping up with his one buxom blonde. :rofl:

[GOPisEvil]

81. LOL!!! I was totally going to post that!

I was going to post that the one he had already was probably too much for him. If he got mad I could have blamed it on the percocet. :rofl:

[Pale Blue Dot]

84. Yeah, I blame it on the percocet too.

But that still doesn't satisfy her!

:scared:

[Pale Blue Dot]

82. ...

:evilfrown:

Looks like it's going to be you and the dolphin tonight....

:evilgrin:

[SarahB]

86. Everything I want to write now is too dirty.

Dammit! You got me! :spank:


Oh wait :think:

[GOPisEvil]

74. Yeah, I'm sitting up in bed.

I feel ok, actually.

The things I require:

1. YOU!
2. Ibuprofen.
3. Water.
4. Percocet.
5. A stone that passes QUICKLY!

How's that? :*

[Madrone]

75. Sweet!

I stole a GINORMOUS BUTTLOAD of Ibuprofen for you at work so I don't have to waste time after work going to the store. I have a water tap and a bottle so that's good, you've got percocet..... I'm OUT of here. Love ya!

[Pied Piper]

79. Don't be scared

Seriously, dude, the worst part is what you're going through right now. And percocet, dayum! I have always found that percocet makes me really sick to my stomach, but I've also found that if one takes an herbal supplement :smoke: beforehand, the nausea isn't quite so bad. In fact, the herbal supplement is often enough to take the edge off. When you start to get the chills and a cold sweat, the pain is pretty much over. As I said before, this stage can take anywhere from a few hours to a few days, just keep drinking lots of water. And by lots, I mean a quart at a time, if you can stomach it.

At some point soon, you will feel an INCREDIBLE urge to pee, and I mean RIGHT NOW! Brace yourself, it's really not that bad, but it will sting for about 1/2 second or so (probably less, if you push really hard). Then it's all over, whew.

Best of luck to you, and welcome to the kidney stone club!

Pied Piper

[GOPisEvil]

83. Thanks!

If last night's pain was the worst, I'll be ok. Right now, it's just more like a pressure. I'm drinking water like a camel stocking up at Costco.

[Pied Piper]

85. One more thing...

My urologist told me that unless my urine runs clear, I'm not drinking enough water. Just thought I'd pass that along to hopefully prevent any future episodes!

[GOPisEvil]

88. I have heard the before.

Strangely, at work, I drink water like a madman. I get my gallon a day and more. I wonder if this is something else. :shrug:

[SarahB]

87. You consultant nurse also says

Percoset, um, slows you down, so water is good, but if you can eat plenty of fiber that's good too. Don't want any more, blockages if you know what I'm saying. Again, I hope you feel better. :)

[GOPisEvil]

89. Thank you!

I've only taken one does of percocet. Right now the ibuprofen is keeping the edge down. Honestly, I don't feel THAT bad.

Madrone is off buying me some ice cream. There's fiber in that, right? :D

[Darth_Kitten]

68. Healing vibes sent.

:D

[idgiehkt]

72. vibes to you

hope you feel better soon, I've never had one of those but I've heard they aren't fun.

comin' at 'ya

[libodem]

77. Best healing Vibes ever

Oooh, do do do ...oooh, do do do....(spooky music) wiggles fingers

[crim son]

80. The poor fellow.

I'm sending vibes right away. I've heard those things hurt like the devil.