11-year old kills 1,051lb hog

[MonkeyFunk]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8PBKB5G0&show_article=1&image=large



MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - Hogzilla is being made into a horror movie. But the sequel may be even bigger: Meet Monster Pig. An 11-year-old Alabama boy used a pistol to kill a wild hog his father says weighed a staggering 1,051 pounds and measured 9-feet-4 from the tip of its snout to the base of its tail. Think hams as big as car tires.
If the claims are accurate, Jamison Stone's trophy boar would be bigger than Hogzilla, the famed wild hog that grew to seemingly mythical proportions after being killed in south Georgia in 2004.

Hogzilla originally was thought to weigh 1,000 pounds and measure 12 feet in length. National Geographic experts who unearthed its remains believe the animal actually weighed about 800 pounds and was 8 feet long.

Regardless of the comparison, Jamison is reveling in the attention over his pig, which has a Web site put up by his father—http://www.monsterpig.com —that is generating Internet buzz.

"It feels really good," Jamison, of Pickensville, said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "It's a good accomplishment. I probably won't ever kill anything else that big."

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. I say give all 11 year olds guns.

We need to be saved from this porky menace.

[Deep13]

96. You miss the point.

People like this who grow up in the so-called gun culture are not the problem. They will never shoot anyone. They will never have an accident because they were raised from a young age to know better. The problem are people, mostly from the city and 'burbs who want to be tv or movie cops, gangsters, secret agants or whatever and just are not in the habit of gun safety.

All my friends from high school owned guns at a young age. They were closely supervised and never had an accident or shot anyone. That is a pretty common story too.

[Kixel]

112. By golly, I think you have it!

I knew how to shoot a 22 at a young age-and I have a strong respect for fire arms safety. No interest in owning a gun (that tomboy stage didn't take), but I know how to behave around one. The firearms training class was also good. Of course, there's also a healthy dose of common sense involved.

[Danger Mouse]

2. Oh shit he killed Rush Limbaugh.

Give him a damn Presidential Medal of Freedom.

[krispos42]

27. roflmao

:spray:
:yourock:

Damn! I almost fell off my stool!

[razorman]

38. And in a completely unrelated incident,

Rosie O'Donnell will not be on "The View" anymore.

[Zuiderelle]

39. Oh ha ha ha, how not funny you are.

:eyes:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

43. And ain't it real SWEET of him to provide much-needed BALANCE?

I mean, it must have been really discomforting for him to see a jab at a right-wing personality without an accompanying jab at a left-wing one.

Oh, and by the way: Search by Author is your friend.

[u4ic]

3. Guns kill...

who knew. :eyes:

[Danger Mouse]

4. What i want to know is how he managed to drop that monster with a pistol.

He must've had to empty and entire box's worth of bullets into that thing to kill it.

[MonkeyFunk]

5. From the article:

"Jamison, who killed his first deer at age 5, was hunting with father Mike Stone and two guides in east Alabama on May 3 when he bagged Hogzilla II. He said he shot the huge animal eight times with a .50- caliber revolver and chased it for three hours through hilly woods before finishing it off with a point-blank shot."

[Danger Mouse]

6. Well I guess that'll do it, even to a monster pig.

Who's up for some BACON?

[Kutjara]

45. Oh lovely, so the pig ran through the woods in pain and terror...

...for three hours before being finally killed. Fucking heart warming.

[MonkeyFunk]

48. Who ever said

it was fucking heart-warming? :shrug:

[Kutjara]

49. I did.

What's your point?

[MonkeyFunk]

51. Oh ok...

if you find it heart-warming, so be it. Nobody else here seemed to.

[Kutjara]

53. Nice try. n/t

[A HERETIC I AM]

79. EIGHT TIMES WITH A FIFTY CAL.??

Sheesh. Once in the right spot with a .22 would have done it.

Hunting with pistols is about as smart as fishing with a shovel.

[TheMightyFavog]

81. It's like bowhunting, people like the challenge.

Unlike a rifle, where a hunter can take down a deer at ranges of 200-250 meters (I know of skilled hunters who have taken down deer at 300-350 meters, ranges where one has has to make serious compensations for gravity and windage) Using a handgun, one has to let his target come within under 50-100 meters, depending on the gun and the skill of the hunter.

As I said in the other post, at that range, you are pitting yourself against your quarry's senses.

[TheMightyFavog]

80. He used a .50 AE to take it down?

Let's see, he had to have been no more than 25-50 meters away from his target. He also shot the thing eight times and the thing still got away. Considering the fierce knockdown power of .50AE, (a round designed for this sort of big game hunting) it's amazing that this thing was big enough to shrug off getting hit by eight of these rounds.

One thing you people not familiar with hunting need to know: pistol hunting is a lot like bowhunting in that you have to be at a very close range (anywhwere from 50-75 meters, deprnding on your shooting skill) before you have a good chance of hitting your target. Taking in to consideration the highly developed senses of most animals, getting them to come that close is very difficult indeed.

I also applaud the kid for having the patience and persistance to track his quarry down after he wounded it. Because my father worked with the state Department of Natural Resources, I've seen the results of idiot hunters who do not pursue their quarry after merely wounding it. It's not pretty.

So enjoy your kudos and applause kid, you damn well earned it!

And I hope you let some scientists at the very least observe and collect some samples from this beast before you throw it on the barbecue!

[conscious evolution]

18. A pistol?!?!?!?!? HFS!!

That was my first thought when I saw that photo.
I still can't see how that kid could fire that gun without it knocking him on his ass.I mean,geez,a .50 cal?I didnot even know they made a hand gun that big.

[DS1]

19. Yea, you can put your finger down the barrel

it's some crazy shit. I knew a guy with a .50 Desert Eagle, he had to use his feet to slide the chamber back because he was a 90 pound weakling.

[TheMightyFavog]

82. it's .50 AE, not .50 BMG

The round they use in machine guns is different that the .50 round for pistols.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_BMG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_AE

[Deep13]

120. Looks like a S&W X-frame. That would be either .460 or .500 S&W magnum.

I was under the impression that .50 AE was for the Desert Eagle automatic.

[Drum]

67. first thing I thought, as well...

pretty damned ambitious to take on a behemoth like that with a pistol...yowza! brave kid!

[razorman]

37. Assuming that all the story is true, give the kid his props.

For an 11-year old to handle the S&W .50-cal revolver, then track the hog for three hours in the hills is quite a feat. I hope he was smart enough to try to herd the wounded hog closer to a road. I would hate to have to pack that entire beast out of the woods.

[Elidor]

7. I always worry about razorbacks when I go out in the woods here in the south

After seeing that, I think maybe I'll just stay indoors for the rest of my life.

[GreenPartyVoter]

30. I think he can probably break through a door if he really wanted to

The pig, not the kid. LOL

[Redneck Socialist]

8. Holy shit!

That's fucking amazing!

fifty cal or no, a handgun would not be my first choice hunting a hog that size.

[Danger Mouse]

10. I'm thinking 'tank'

I wouldn't want to be on the business end of that pig's hooves or tusks.

[Nikia]

9. I don't think that I could have shot that hog

Because my instincts would have been to run away screaming.

[Whoa_Nelly]

11. The dad's website says

Bad Request (Invalid Hostname)

[Nicole]

23. It worked for me.

Maybe he fixed it after you tried it. :hi:

[Whoa_Nelly]

26. It's working now!

Thanks, Nicole! :hi: :loveya:

[dropkickpa]

12. Interesting fact about feral pigs

Pigs become feral VERY easily. They can begin to regain some of the characteristics of wild pigs (thicker haircoat, enlarged tusks, etc) in less than 1 generation (basically, the hog that went feral can get these characteristics!!!!!). All piglets carry the feral characteristics, and the traits become more akin to wild hogs with each generation, more rapidly if there is interbreeding with existing (but not native, imported from Europe) wild boar populations.

[alphafemale]

14. Even "tame" pigs can be mean as hell.

And yes they will go completely feral in one generation.

[dropkickpa]

16. Oh hell yeah

My great uncles raises some hogs (for family use, he farms corn) and those are some mean sumbitches. But they CAN be fantastically intelligent and fun, I work with pigs occasionally, and my coworkers always call me the pig whisperer. Just what I always dreamed of.

[GreenPartyVoter]

31. I would think that applies to any young of formerly domesticated

animals. No reason for them not to be feral if they've never been handled or managed by humans.

[dropkickpa]

66. It's not just behavior

It is also physical characteristics, they devolve VERY quickly back to most of the traits of wild (never domesticated) pigs. The interbreeding of escaped domestic stock with wild (imported) populations further speeds this.

There are no true swine native to the western hemisphere (n and s america).

[Hand]

60. Yep.

Other interesting factoid--I was told once that they're immune to rattlesnake venom. :wow: was my reaction.

[BreweryYardRat]

13. Wild hogs that size are dangerous, and should be removed.

For the good of people who might want to hike/bike/fish/etc... and the local wild animals.

[ET Awful]

20. Wild? It was shot on a commercial hunting preserve.

It may have been "wild" but it was contained and bred strictly to be shot by somebody with too much time and money on their hands.

"Lost Creek Plantation, a commercial hunting preserve in Delta"

[BreweryYardRat]

21. My mistake.

I just read the blurb here-was too lazy to read the article. Until now.

Sorry. Although I doubt a hog that size would have much trouble getting through any barrier separating a hunting preserve from the surrounding area.

[conscious evolution]

57. Most hunting clubs in the south

are not fenced-in cages.
Most often the land is owned by timber companies,which they rent out to groups of hunters.This releases the owners from liabilty in case a hunter is injured on the property.

This mornings AJC article said they had to make a road to the body and use a backhoe to drag the it out.

[alphafemale]

15. The kid is obviously several feet back from the Hog.

There is no true perspective to really judge the true size of the beast.

[Shakespeare]

17. At 1051 pounds, it's not that far off. n/t

[NV Whino]

22. I was not that fond of Alabama anyway

[Nicole]

24. That thing is Hugh!

Plus it's still growing. A google link says it now weighs 1500 lbs. :rofl:

[snailly]

25. I have a hard time believing something like that mofo

could be runnin' 'round the woods like a squirrel for some 11 year old to pick off with a pistol. I live one state away and the South is troubled but the trouble ain't with the animal population. Just sayin'.

[krispos42]

28. I'm smelling some bullshit here

First off, that's not a .50-caliber revolver in the picture. Nobody that I could find makes a .50-caliber revolver in those colors. Smith & Wesson makes the Model 500 in .500 S&W Magnum available in 8 configurations, all of which are made of polished stainless steel.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&pageSize=10&published=1&beginIndex=0&resultType=2&attributeName1=Caliber&attributeValue1=.500&attributeValueType1=STRING&attributeValueOperator1=EQUAL&isFirearm=Y

Freedom Arms makes revolvers in .500 Wyoming Express, but, again, those are all shiny stainless steel numbers.

http://www.freedomarms.com/

Magnum Research also makes revolvers, in both .500 S&W Magnum and in .50 Action Express. And again, all of those are in shiny stainless steel.

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Browse.asp?Category=BFR:Revolvers

Smith & Wesson does make revolvers with that style and color. It may be, for example, a Model 460 Compensated Hunter. But that's not a .50-caliber, it fires the .460 S&W Magnum cartridge.

http://www.smith-wesson.com.nyud.net:8090/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/images/firearms/170267_large.jpg

Second, all of the .50-caliber revolvers mentioned, and the .460 as well, only hold five shots in the cylinder! How did he fire 8 shots, then chase it for 3 hours?

Finally, why was his finger on the trigger?!? UNSAFE!

[Indy_Dem_Defender]

29. My thoughts exactly

Bull Shit

It's like those fishing shows that have mailed in pictures of people who have caught fish, there's always that one picture of this 50 pound 6 year old who caught a 17 pound Bass, you know it's BS and the kid's dad caught if it was even caught at all. This story falls under the same category of lies and tall tales!

[rocktivity]

36. The gun was "a Smith & Wesson CUSTOMIZED .50 caliber revolver

shooting 350 grain bullets," according to the "offical" web site.

:headbang:
rocknation

[krispos42]

44. So we're now talking near two grand...

S&W custom isn't cheap, IIRC. Especiall the 8-shot versions... :-)

[Hangingon]

90. Perhaps he reloaded...

[Auggie]

32. "It feels really good?" "A good accomplishment?" Reveling in the attention?

What a sick little fuck.

[Kutjara]

46. My thoughts exactly.

Deriving one's self worth from the taking of life is not particularly healthy.

[conscious evolution]

58. Can't blame the kid.

It really takes balls to go after a wild boar with a pistol.
I sure as hell would not do it.

Normally I am against trophy hunting.Some guy sitting in a tree with a high-powered rifle and a scope shooting something a mile a way is not sporting in any sense of the word.
Going up against a 1000+ lb boar with a hand gun is batshit crazy in my book and most definitely earns my respect.

[Shakespeare]

59. This wasn't a trophy kill.

He's having the head mounted, but the rest is being turned into over 700 pounds of sausage. That'll be some good eating, and it also gets rid of one nasty, vicious feral pig, who most likely was a non-native critter.

[conscious evolution]

61. Great!

I hope he donates some of it to those in need.
As someone who has spent a day and a night treed by hogs I can say I am not sad to see it go.

[Arugula Latte]

70. I know lots of humans who are nasty, vicious, non-native monsters

yet, somehow, it's not okay to kill them ...

[Shakespeare]

72. LOL....and the vegan contingent checks in.

No, I have no problem killing and eating animals. And kindly go find someone else to attempt to impose your personal morality on. I'm not buying, thanks.

[dropkickpa]

100. The only pig like animal native to the US

is the collared peccary, found in the southwest desert (prefers saguaro forests and likes to eat pirckly pears) and it reaches a max weight of 40lbs.

In fact, the only pig like animals native to the western hemisphere are peccaries.

[TheMightyFavog]

83. Even those long range kills like that are accomplishments, in my book.

It's a testament to a hunter's skill. At those ranges, you have to compensate for gravity by aiming high, and even the wind. You have to know your weapon and even the performance characteristics of the ammunition you are using in order to pull off long-range shots like that. Hell, you even have to know your own body to pull off shots like that. The way you breathe can mean the difference between making a kill shot and missing.

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[poiuytsister]

34. Talk about bringing home the bacon! n/t

[jilln]

35. And thus the need for this T-shirt

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-17800188898367_1947_4886173

[Deja Q]

40. Yawn. The coward used a gun.

Other people who use guns to kill are called cowards. What makes this kid any different?

The pig should be lucky it got to be that big before becoming Hormel's latest supermarket entry. Mind you, what the hell did it eat in order to get so big? I recall an episode of "Gilligan's Island" where some discarded, chemically altered seeds arrived on the island and the resultant crops were gigantic. Did the pig eat radioactive beets?

If only the Lord populated Earth with more big-ass pigs. We could all be proud in accomplishment for killing them. :eyes:

Which makes me wonder, using a gun usually doesn't get people very far in life... what will his career be?

Now, I'm going out to purchase an archery set and aim at a haystack with a piece of paper with a printed bullseye target attached. I'll be proud to hit the middle of it.

[MonkeyFunk]

41. back in my day

we killed giant mutant hogs with our bare hands! One guy used a plastic spork once, and we all laughed at him.

[Deja Q]

42. LOL

True, I know, but still... we always talk of people using guns as being cowards.

Ineded, little boy blue in that photo thinks it's a big accomplishment. I wouldn't say it's not an accomplishment, but I don't think it's the accomplishment of all accomplishments ever accomplished.

[Kutjara]

47. I wonder if there are any commercial reserves...

...where people can go to hunt bloodthirsty eleven-year-olds? Imagine the prestige and sense of satisfaction you'd feel at having one of those heads on your wall. Talk about a conversation-piece.

[MonkeyFunk]

50. No there are not

that would be illegal, you know.

[Kutjara]

52. Even in the South?

:hide:

[MonkeyFunk]

54. Yes

even in the South, people aren't dumb enough to equate the hunting of a boar with the murder of a boy.

[Shakespeare]

55. Yeah, even us inbred mouthbreathers do better than that.

:eyes:

I'd say the boy most certainly can be proud of what he did. He took out a frighteningly large feral pig (which are considered dangerous pests, by the way--and most are non-native and bad for whichever ecosystem they've ended up in), and the pig is being used for food, so it's not a trophy kill.

[Danger Mouse]

63. KILL THE BOY ANYWAY! HE KILLED POOR LITTLE PORKY PIG

HE MUST SUFFER!
I guess if the pig had killed the boy, people would be dancing and celebrating?
That being said, the pig doesn't look all that tasty.

[PVnRT]

69. Of course

Human life is less than those of animals, just ask any PETA freak.

[Hangingon]

92. From the news reports,

there are apparently parts of LA where young people with guns regularly hunt other young people.

[Hand]

62. Pfui. Back in my day we didn't have hands.

In fact, we didn't have any limbs--we just wrapped our stumps around the suckers and gummed them to death (we didn't have teeth, either).

We were toothless, hog-gumming stumps! You young 'uns have it easy... :rofl:

[Danger Mouse]

64. HA! Wimps.

Back in MY day, we were just torsos. We headbutted stuff to death!
Of course, the average life expectancy was about 23, and lots o' people seemed to get brain damage...

[eppur_se_muova]

85. ... and we LIKED it that way! {Channeling Dana Carvey's "Grumpy Old Man"} nt

[jmowreader]

56. Hard numbers on the size of this animal

These measurements were taken by the taxidermist who is mounting it:

Around the head (across the ears): 54 inches.
Around the shoulders: 74 inches.
Length of snout (from eyes to nose): 11 inches.

These pigs are unpredictable and dangerous--they've been known to track down the person who shot them...and a hog that size is capable of killing someone.

[MilesColtrane]

65. Even More Impressive!!

Because, according to that picture, that makes that kid only 2 and half feet tall.

[jmowreader]

68. Not quite

This pig probably stood five feet from ground to backbone. If there's a foot of ground clearance, you've got four feet of pig body. There's about a foot and a half between the top of the pig and the top of the kid who killed him, so he's five-six.

That is one Big Ass Pig. I'm impressed.

[hedgehog]

71. Is anyone else here familiar with the Irish tale of the drunk who fell

into his pig pen? The pig(s) had to killed and buried in consecrated ground after the owner was eaten.

[chelsea0011]

73. So it happened at the beginning of the month, they have a website

up where you can purchase a poster, and the creators of the movie being shot are all over TV and have announced a large part for the kid? All I need to know now who they hired for the PR. Nice story, but I somehow belive the truth to be in a gray area here.

[Orsino]

74. We're supposed to be in awe of the kid's manly prowess...

...but doesn't this support the idea that anyone can pull a trigger? The eleven-year-old's bullets have the same muzzle velocity as anyone else's would.

[TheMightyFavog]

84. You ever fire a .50 AE?

The recoil is insane. They kick like a mule. Hell, I've heard of people who have broken thier wrists firing those things.

[Orsino]

95. Well, I wouldn't argue that point...

...but I would insist that whatever the kick of the rifle, it's a lot less than the impact of the charging hog would have been.

I don't think I ever fired anything bigger than an M-60 (AT-4 hardly counts). While I realize that marksmanship takes skill, I'm failing to be impressed by the kid's heroic pulling of the trigger, or by the weight of the animal.

[LostinVA]

75. Canned hunt

[Shakespeare]

78. No, it was just on private property.

Very common in the deep south, and not canned at all--there are no fences or barriers to keep wildlife in or out.

[Danger Mouse]

93. Personally, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that hog's tusks.

The kid is either brave, stupid, or both.

[RebelOne]

99. Doesn't look like that hog had any tusks.

That kid is just stupid, especially by his remark that it was a good accomplishment. What, a good accomplishment to kill an animal?

[mainegreen]

76. To bad a hog that big will taste like crap. Otherwise I'd say put up the spit!

BBQ tonight!

[xmas74]

86. They'd just roast it here anyway.

Hell, half of it would be slathered in sauce after cooking.

I don't even like pork but KC-style bbq sauce is pure heaven. It can make nearly anything taste good.

[Deja Q]

77. If the article was about the 1,051lb hog killing an 11 year old,

would the hog be going hog-wild, gossiping to reporters about oh-what-a-big-accomplishment it had done?

:(


(Don't you love perspectives? :evilgrin: )

[pinniped]

87. It would be an accomplishment if he killed it with a spear or knife fashioned out of obsidian.

He had armed backup as well, so that would certainly make him less scared and more eager to chase the hog.

"I was a little bit scared, a little bit excited," said Jamison, who just finished the sixth grade on the honor roll at Christian Heritage Academy, a small, private school.

His father said that, just to be extra safe, he and the guides had high-powered rifles aimed and ready to fire in case the beast with 5- inch tusks decided to charge.

[Joey Liberal]

88. He's a scary young republican,,,,,,,n/t

[TheMightyFavog]

91. News flash, pal. Democrats hunt, too.

And we wonder why we have trouble getting our message to resonate with rural voters.

[Joey Liberal]

101. Only cowards hunt

[TheMightyFavog]

107. Thank you for insulting many of my family and friends.

I'll be sure to let them know.

[Joey Liberal]

117. Should I be afraid?

Killing animals does not make a person tough.

[TheMightyFavog]

119. They don't hunt to "be tough"

They enjoy the challenge of pitting themselves against nature.

Besides, none of these people kill any animal unless they intend to eat it.

A number of them end up donating any excess meat they have to local food pantries.

[Shakespeare]

109. Bullshit.

One side of my family subsistence hunts. They eat what they kill, and hunt because they need the food.

[Joey Liberal]

118. Okay, that, I have no problem with,,,,,n/t

[Deep13]

111. That is only if you equate hunting with combat.

It is not. It is a sport of people finding and killing animals. If you think it is not immoral to kill animals (and I don't) then you may as well say bowling is cowardly because the pins cannot fight back. You may draw a moral distinction between pins and hogs, but hunters have a different value judgment on that matter. Either way, it has nothing to do with cowardice.

[Deep13]

98. You can take my gun when you can pry it...

...from by cold, dead, socialist fingers.

[Joey Liberal]

102. Who wants your gun?

I own a gun too. I just don't let an 11 year old young republican borrow it to go out and kill animals for fun.............

[Deep13]

103. Well, that's your prerogative.

:shrug:
P.S. on edit:

How can an 11-year-old be a Republican? He's too young to register as a party voter and is too young to make up his mind about that sort of thing.

[undeterred]

89. Was that Walt on LOST - that's the only place I've seen hogs that big...

[doggyboy]

94. I need some help with The Math

How many pit bulls go into a 1,051 lb hog?

[Deep13]

97. Yeah, a pig that's as big as a bear. Horseshit!

Here's my theory. The kid is posing next to a moose or a bear with his Dad's S&W Performance Center .500 magnum revolver. The head has been photo-shopped to look porcine. The kid did not shoot it because his arm would be on the ground if he did.

[MonkeyFunk]

104. That would be a shame...

I think the Alabama Moose is very endangered.

[Deep13]

105. Well, we only have their word for it that it is AL.

Could be ME in the summer.

[no name no slogan]

106. This could be a hoax

http://fieldandstream.blogs.com/news/2007/05/breaking_news_1.html

(can't read article because it's blocked by Websense at work, because it's about firearms)

[Deep13]

108. One of those posters suggested it could be forced perspective.

That kid might be a lot further away than he looks. A narrow lens aperture could keep them both in focus at once. This will create the illusion of a giant hog when the proper interpretation is a tiny kid (because he's far away). Instead of an 11-foot-long hog, it could simply be a five-foot-long oinker. Also, the posters there noted that this was a feral pig, if anything, and not a wild one.

P.S.
The revolver looks more like a S&W .44 Magnum rather than a .50 cal. A 44 that size is something an 11-year-old can handle and is far more common in hog hunts than the monsterous S&W .500 magnum.

[MonkeyFunk]

110. here are some more pics

and, the gun in question:

[Deep13]

114. It definitely is forced perspective.

Notice how in each of the pictures there is nothing in the foreground or background that is a size reference. The ground-level pix have an empty foreground and the background could either be small trees close or big trees at a distance. The picture is composed so we don't know which. also in both case, the people are behind the hog so that the hog covers their feet. As a result we don't know how close to the hog they really are. There are no shadows on the ground to tip us off. Our mind assumes that are only a little further away than the pig. If, however, they are a few yards behind and the lens is close tothe subject with the iris stopped down they will all be in focus perspective will be distorted.

For the hanging hog, likewise, the people are standing, but the post holding the pig is not attached to the ground in the photo. We have no idea how far behind the hog the people are. The whole thing is like the engine room of the Starship Enerprise original series. Forced perspective made it look a lot longer than it was. This is a normal size hog.

The gun is probably an X-frame S&W which makes it a .500 magnum or a .460 magnum. The relatively small handle compared to the frame is the give-away. I could be mistaken on that, however, as it might be a .44 magnum. I don't have a reference in front of me.

[SaveElmer]

113. What's the point...hunting for sport is just lost on me...

I just don't understand how blowing away an animal with a high powered weapon(or any weapon for that matter), just to say you did it, is something to take pleasure in...

I don't think it should be banned or anything...I understand not everyone feels the same way about it that I do...but I just don't see it..

[Deep13]

115. That is a perfectly valid value judgment.

As you say, not everyone shares it.

[Parche]

116. Quick, Call Oscar Meyer

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