Creating sites that won't work in Firefox becomes even MORE idiotic (15% market share)

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

You don't just dismiss fifteen fucking percent of all Web users. Oh, and others (esp. Safari) are gaining too.

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=3

[LSK]

1. K&R

[Omphaloskepsis]

2. I write them for Firefox....

And hack them for IE. In that order. It is great, thank you Microsoft. Fuck you Microsoft.

[tk2kewl]

8. me too

generally if they work in firefox they will work well in "most" browsers

[realisticphish]

3. I use Camino

which is essentially a stripped-down mac-only version of Firefox. It pisses me off when I see "this site is only for IE." My browser is a hell of a lot faster and more capable than IE, yet you just randomly block me from using it. Which itself pisses me off; many sites simply won't let you go there if you have a mac or are running firefox. At least let me in, for christ's sake; if i get an error, hell, I guess I can't go there. But most of the time "IE Only" sites seem to work just fine on other browsers.

[Pierre.Suave]

4. I use Camino as well

I love it.

[realisticphish]

5. I used to use firefox

but it was so damn slow sometimes, and I didn't like opera. I love my camino

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

17. Ain't free, open source software wonderful?

They threw away the outer layers of Firefox but kept the inner one (the Gecko rendering engine -- thanks jasonc for enlightening me), and presto! New, better product!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

6. Just HOW many Mac variants of Firefox exist anyway?

There seems to be a maddeningly diverse fauna. Ditto for OpenOffice.

Forgive me if I'm talking out of my ass; I'm not a Mac user.

[Pierre.Suave]

10. Camino is not a firefox derivitave

The only thing they have in common is the Gecko rendering engine, everything else is differnt.

For example, firefox was originally written for the PC, and because of that has to go through a translation step to work with OSX, Camino is written ONLY for OSX, runs natively and is FASSTT.

[Kutjara]

12. Caminophile here too.

It's a nice, fast, stable and standards-compliant browser.

I haven't checked lately, but doesn't Camino let you select an option that makes it identify itself to websites as Internet Explorer? I remember Opera used to do this (until M$ got upset and threatened to sue). If not, I'm sure some bright spark has developed a plugin that will spoof the IE-only websites into thinking Camino is IE.

[realisticphish]

15. not sure

I'm going to go check now, though :)

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

16. I do know Firefox has such an extension. -nt

[Little Wing]

7. You'd think Yahoo would learn, but they insist on using that bloated WMP

piece of junk to play movies.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

9. Actually, Firefox on Linux can see WMV all right, AS LONG AS...

...the site doesn't do anal-retentive "browser plugin checks" and just shows the damn video. The packages needed are mplayer and mplayerplug-in.

I don't know what the situation is in Firefox for Windows, but I suppose it's similar, with the additional simplification that it can just launch Windows Media Player.

[KitchenWitch]

11. exactly!

:)

[Roon]

13. I can't access the bus schedules with fire fox

I also can't bank online with it either. I still use it for everything else. IE blows!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

14. Send the link to your bank and threaten to move business

It's their bottom line. They care about that.