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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:04 AM
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Chinese restaurant food unhealthy, study says
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17718517/wid/11915773?GT1=9145


They needed a study to tell them this?

WASHINGTON - The typical Chinese restaurant menu is a sea of nutritional no-nos, a consumer group has found.

A plate of General Tso’s chicken, for example, is loaded with about 40 percent more sodium and more than half the calories an average adult needs for an entire day.

The battered, fried chicken dish with vegetables has 1,300 calories, 3,200 milligrams of sodium and 11 grams of saturated fat.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:18 AM
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1. Should read: "fake chinese food ordered by americans"
is unhealthy.

Real chinese food, particularly cantonese cuisine, is among the more healthy food in the world--it's mostly steamed seafood and vegetables.

"Chinese" food in this country gets a bad rap cause most of it is made up.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 08:38 PM
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37. Amen to that! Garlic, ginger, chinese broccoli, bok choy, tofu and seafood
are all very good for you. Talking about General Tso's chicken in the context of Chinese food is like talking about Nachos Bell Grande in the context of Mexican food.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 08:43 PM
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38. Heh. Absolutely.
It took almost 12 hours, but I'm glad someone noticed!

Your analogy is an excellent one. :hi:
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:25 AM
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2. One from column A...
one from column B, and you get free angioplasty.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:41 AM
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3. Oh, it fucking would be, wouldn't it?
Anything even slightly tasty in this world is inevitably death on a plate, whereas the healthy stuff all tastes like boiled laundry and twigs.

Well, it's about time for my usual breakfast of steamed plankton, algae fritters and braised air. Gooooood eatin'!
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:08 AM
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5. Braised air is REALLY bad for you.
Trans fats. And lots of sodium. :+
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:52 AM
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8. Seriously. I try to be healthy, but I cannot eat health food.
I like Sesame Chicken and Veggie Lo Mein and fuck people who say your diet should consist of fruit, vegetables, rice and NOTHING ELSE!!


"This is not FOOD! This is what FOOD EATS!" - Red, That 70s Show
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:00 PM
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12. "boiled laundry and twigs"
:spray:

"braised air" :rofl:
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:32 PM
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18. Steaming the plankton destroys all the vitamins. ..
sorry, you'll have to eat your plankton raw from now on.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 03:49 PM
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32. I heard that there are mercury concerns with plankton and algae.
You'd better replace them with 1/2 a rice cake and a plate of mashed yeast.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:07 PM
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34. The fundamental rule of dieting: If it tastes good, spit it out.
Now stop whining and eat your rocks and lichens.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:46 AM
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4. Good think I don't like Asian cuisine!
Now Mexican and Italian, on the other hand, are extremely delicious. But also, fattening! x(
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:10 AM
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6. Fettuccine alfredo....
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 11:10 AM by Left Is Write
heart attack on a plate.

;)
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:11 AM
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7. I know and it is soooooooo good!
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:26 PM
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29. Japanese, Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese, Laotian, Indian, Afghanistani, Malaysian, Turkish...
Not to mention the other countries I missed, plus the specialized cuisine of all of the various regions of the above country, and you don't like any of it? Wow.

Most Asian cuisines feature some very healthy options, and some not-so-healthy options, especially when cooked at home or in-country, but even as imagined by American restaurants.

For instance, sashimi with rice, miso soup, and a cucumber salad? Good for you, if you're not watching sodium. Shrimp tempura roll with wasabi mayo? Not so much.

Just a reminder: American Chinese restaurant food (even if you go to Chinatown and order something with sea cucumbers) isn't the whole of Chinese food.

You can do Mexican and Italian healthily, too. It's not all fried tacos and alfredo sauce.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:02 PM
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33. I am just not big on the seasoning in most Asian food.
And I don't like fish so I am pretty much screwed.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:56 AM
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9. Strip mall Chinese restaurant lunch buffet food
bears no resemblance to what people actually eat in China.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:00 PM
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11. no it sure isn't.
my husband is in China all the time and loves the food thereand he's actually lost 25 pounds since he began traveling there on a regular basis.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:19 PM
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28. When I spent 5 weeks in China in 1990, we ate so much and so often
that we almost got tired of eating--not to mention the beer we drank with lunch and dinner. Yet none of us gained weight, probably due to both the food (typically mostly vegetables with little bits of meat, tofu, or fish in them and a small amount of rice or noodles) and the exercise (as one member of our group remarked, everything we were taken to was either on top of a mountain and accessible only on foot or it was on the fifth floor of a building with no elevators).
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:19 PM
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13. My point exactly
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:00 PM
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10. I'll eat what the fuck I want
I'm sick of these fucking food nazis.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:27 PM
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15. Eating unhealthily is certainly your prerogative
No one will take away your right to eat poorly.

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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:10 PM
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27. A plate of General Tso's Chicken
once in a while is hardly eating poorly - if you eat it every day, that's another story.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:28 PM
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16. Dying young or unhappy - lovely choice we've got...
I wonder whatever happened to dying old and happy... though I think we can all guess what happened with that.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:04 PM
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24. The Answer, Toad, Is Nothing
The median life expectancy continues to rise in this country. The fact is that while we know what is potentially bad for us, in much greater detail than 40 years ago, people are still living longer. So, the choice isn't as bad as you suggest.

You can still be happy and not die young. Except that all the worrying about taking 15 monhts off one's life just might be the cause of dying 15 months sooner.
The Professor
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:10 PM
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35. Only as long as people live from womb to the tomb in a healthy state.
I will wager real money that people who eat fattening sugar-filled garbage all day, much like how those aged 80~120 never had, may end up living that long - but only with the help of diabetes, anti-cholesterol, and other medications taken at precisely the right times.

As for worrying, it's all I got left and if it helps I sure as hell am going to do it. Unless you've got a good reason not to.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:22 PM
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14. and in other news...the sky is blue
As long as you're not eating this stuff every day, I don't see the harm of indulging in some yummy junk food every now and then. I seriously doubt that this study will really surprise vast numbers of people. I certainly did not believe that because there was broccoli in my chicken with broccoli that my meal was somehow healthy
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:31 PM
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17. Chinese dishes today are huge
They usually last me 2 meals
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:40 PM
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21. I agree. Portion size at almost every American restaurant
is out of control - my wife and I often split a dinner or I take the leftovers to lunch the next day.

Also, in my experience, the better Asian restaurants are a completely different experience from the cheap MSG-laden crap. I also imagine the same problem would be found at many restaurants - Chipotle for one has crazy sodium levels and portion sizes.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 08:19 PM
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36. I agree
Only once have I finished a Chinese food meal since graduating from college. That dish was chicken (unbreaded, unfried) with mixed vegtables, which I doubt had over 1000 calories. Usually, I eat the rest for lunch.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:35 PM
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19. That's not necessarily true in Canada, though
When I was a kid, we used to vacation at this ranch in Ontario near Owen Sound. We always went out at least once for chinese food. In Canada, it's closer to the authentic stuff and isn't as heavily fried.

Also, at any of those strip-mall buffets, you can find the authentic dishes there. Around here you can tell the best ones by who eats there-if a lot of aisan people are eating there, they probably offer some authentic food.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:37 PM
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20. I think the trick is to enjoy what you enjoy... in moderation
I don't eat Chinese food every day.

I don't even eat Chinese food every week.

I'm not sure I've had Chinese food in the last 2 months.

So when I get around to having it, I'm going to have it, and I'm going to enjoy it.




I eat pho pretty often too... often I make it myself at home, so I can control what goes into it.]

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BluePatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:51 PM
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22. Grass green, water wet,
Bush a moron...More with Rick Romero at 11.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:00 PM
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23. Depends on where you get it.
There is a place close to me that serves somewhat healthy food. They have this awesome Beef and Peppers with Black Bean sauce thats sooooo tasty. The sauce actually has TONS of black beans in it (they make it in-house), and the beef and peppers aren't fried.

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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:05 PM
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25. People think it's healthy just because they see a piece of broccoli in it.
Chinese food has never seemed particularly healthy to me.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:06 PM
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26. Without even reading it, I'll bet CSPI is involved.
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 01:08 PM by TommyO
Bastards, trying to take away my Fettuccine Alfredo and General Tso's Shrimp (much better than the chicken).

Edited to add: I was right!
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:32 PM
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30. Oh well, I have to die from something, right?
And I just found a couple Chinese joints that serve sushi. (Not that the sushi is as good, but it is tolerable)
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 03:35 PM
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31. Yep eat raw veggies and drink pure spring water
exercise every day, then walk in front of a garbage truck just leaving the chinese takeaway.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 08:44 PM
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39. I consider it some healthy because I get a bigger variety of vegtables
When I get chicken with mixed vegtables. Yes, I could go to the store and buy small amounts of several different vegtables and put them all in one dish for myself (my husband likes very few vegtables) but by the time I drive 12 miles each weigh to the nearest grocery store with more than 10 items of produce in the winter and cook it all, it is much cheaper to just get Chinese take out.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 08:48 PM
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40. How much restaurant food actually *is* healthy?
:shrug:
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