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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 07:06 AM
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First group project paper in grad school--- B+-- I am bummed
the last time i got a B+ was in junior year first semester.

my part of the paper was the only part the professors said "good analysis" :bounce:

my group is very nice even if they arent the best writers

for the next project i offered to do all the critical analysis so long as someone did the editing.

:(


:nopity:
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 07:24 AM
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1. I always hated group projects.
You always get one or two people that don't want to pull their weight.

I would rather just do the project by myself so I am responsible and have control over the whole thing. Which was essentially what happened for every group project when I was in grad school anyway.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 07:28 AM
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2. actually my group wasnt irresponsible. i think they are mostly young
and not very good writers.

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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 01:41 PM
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24. I was the EXACT same way in grad school
I always took the lead in group projects because there were always slackers and my grades meant something to me.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 07:52 AM
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3. I used to be the one to "take over" group projects.
Edited on Fri Mar-16-07 07:52 AM by crim son
Nothing bothers me more than failing due to others' shortcomings. On edit: NOT that you've failed!!
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 07:55 AM
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4. it felt a bit like failing honestly. i think i would have offered to rewrite
but we didnt even get all the pieces together till the night before
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 07:56 AM
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5. I know what you mean. It's frustrating. n/t
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 08:47 AM
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6. That's not too bad
At least your part was good.

It could be worse....it could've been an F! ;) :)

:hi: :hug:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 08:49 AM
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7. i dont think you can get an F in grad school. thank you though honey.
:hug:
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:18 AM
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8. Glad I've never had a group project
It's bad enough to have to deal with the charade that every student is capable of leading seminar discussions and sitting through some brutal, worthless student-led discussions. I've never had my grade depend on someone else's work in grad school. I would not like that one bit. I feel for ya. I'd be bummed too.

That being said, I might be en route to my first A- or B+ this semester all on my own. My motivation level is in the shitter this term. Hopefully, I'll manage to pull out an A somehow in my class where everything is riding on my paper. But I'm getting to the point where I'm just ready to be done with coursework.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:48 AM
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9. Group projects suck
We didn't do group projects in law school. Those grades were almost exclusively based on one exam containing one question. We didn't do group projects when I got my education degree. Those grades were based on individual testing and a few individual projects. We did tons of group projects in my MBA program. Grades were usually at least 30% or more dependent upon group projects.

The absolute worst thing that ever happened in a group project was in my organizational behavior theory class. We were assigned to do an analysis of a medium to large business - an analysis which was specifically required to include a minimum number of surveys and interviews of multiple employees at different levels performing different functions. There were five people in the group. I was doing small business consulting at the time. One group member was an international student who didn't work. Another worked for a small non-profit Christian ministry that served disabled children. Two guys worked as engineers for the same business. It was not difficult to choose their employer as the subject of our project with one of them leading the effort. About a day and a half before the project was due we learned that the dipshit leading the project had taken it upon himself to interview and survey himself multiple times for each position he had held in the company. In fact, he had not surveyed or interviewed anyone else - and had refused all offers to assist in doing so. I thought the lunacy was so egregious that I contacted a family member who taught in an MBA program at another college and sought advice as to how best to protect myself from my lazy ass deceitful colleagues. I insisted that certain assumptions be added to the paper which would validate the conclusions. No doubt it hacked off my group members and it should have raised suspicions with the instructor. Surprisingly, we actually got a good grade on the project. I actively avoided working in another group with all of these folks for the remainder of the program. I eventually found a guy who was Arabic and a girl who was Asian that I enjoyed working with on group projects - and it seemed that our skills were complimentary.

Hang in there. Everybody seems to despise group projects.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:53 AM
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10. this was for my organizational behavior class, strangely enough
i thought my group members were great people. however our end product left a lot to be desired.

i personally think that your group member needed a few ethics classes.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:29 AM
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11. The two engineers
who worked for the company needed the ethics. The other two in the group were uncomfortable with what had happened - but they were not willing to challenge the other two. Spineless and gutless. Still, I would not have been able to force the inclusion of those assumptions into the final project without their support. They might not have been willing to challenge what had occurred but they were certainly interested in saving their own skin should our deceitful ways be found out.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:33 AM
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12. that's not too bad for grad school
its supposed to be harder... just don't get any Cs! ;)
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:46 AM
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13. My only B+in grad school was for a group project.
same situation as yours. People who don't pull their weight AND a certain arbitrariness on the part of the instructor.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:55 AM
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14. I can see why you'd be bummed
since you haven't gotten one since junior year but really,it's a good grade.Congratz on the proffessor specifically acknowleding your work,very cool.B-)

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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:57 AM
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16. thanks. i think my gf may have laughed a little at my outrage over a B+
but to me easy papers are what you should get A's on so that if you fuck up a midtern/final ..all is not lost
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:55 AM
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15. That's why I always do all the work for group projects.
I don't trust anyone else not to frak it up.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:59 AM
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17. A group project in grad school? What kind of program are you in?
Sounds pretty silly to me.

I always hated "group projects." I like to be master of my own destiny, succeed or fail on my own merits....
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:01 AM
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18. both classes i am takign this semester has atleast 40% of grade dependent on group projects
Edited on Fri Mar-16-07 11:08 AM by lionesspriyanka
i am in an MS in organizational psychology program

on edit: i think MBA programs are full of group projects too.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:12 AM
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20. Good luck to you in your program, it sounds interesting.
I don't have any words of wisdom to pass along to you, since our programs seem to be vastly different (I'm finishing my MA: Art History).
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:15 AM
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21. eeek! the worse grade i got in college was in art history!!!! and i took chemistry and calculus
eeekkkk!!

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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:26 AM
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22. LOL! I failed college algebra.
I never took chemistry, not even in high school.

:hi:
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:02 AM
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19. I despise group projects
Most people have this idiotic idea that group work means that everyone should have a hand in everything, which is just idiotic. And if you're like me, you tend not to trust the work of others that impacts your own unless you have good reason to.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 12:04 PM
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23. That is hard
I hate it when I have to worry about the quality of other people's work. When I was in my second year of colleged I edited the lit mag and I did all of the editing and typesetting by myself, just because I didn't trust anyone else to do it right. The typesetting was tedious as hell, too. You sound like you are really hard on yourself...I hope not too hard. But I don't blame you for wanting to insure that others don't bring your grade down next time. :hug:
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 01:53 PM
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25. B+? You're not an Indian!
:P
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:03 PM
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27. shut up little first generation american!!
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:13 PM
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28. Only green card I need is American Express!
:P
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:15 PM
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29. i am a citizen too now...
neener neener neener

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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:15 PM
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30. How'd all that paperwork feel?
:P
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:18 PM
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31. blah! i dont think i like you anymore!
:P
:P
:P
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:22 PM
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32. ...
:cry:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:25 PM
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33. aww! i was just teasing
:hug:
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:31 PM
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34. ...
:P :hug:
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:02 PM
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26. Group projects suck, however...
I met my spouse when we were assigned a project together in grad school. He did all the work, I got an A, and he got a B. But then again, look at what else he got in the deal!
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