I am in MI

[Pierre.Suave]

to surprise my SO and she is sick and in bed...:-( so my duties as the good BF that drove from MN to MI to surprise her went form wild weekend of "missed you" to caring for her as she is sick.

oh well, at least I get to snuggle with her. She is asleep on my shoulder right now. I would take this over being in MN anyday, but now I don't want to go back.

[Pierre.Suave]

1. WOW

really, thats awesome and bad luck all in one...;-)






























Hey, at least when I talk with myself, I always get an answer I want, right?

[Ptah]

2. I used to live in Michigan

The mother of my children is from Flint.

:shrug:

[Pierre.Suave]

3. Flint?

do you know Michael Moore?

[Ptah]

4. No, I don't know Micheal Moore. I've never been to Flint, but I have a deep

appreciation for what happened there in the early part of
the union movement:

Organizing Flint was a difficult and dangerous plan. GM controlled city politics in Flint and kept a close eye on outsiders. As Wyndham Mortimer, the UAW officer put in charge of the organizing campaign in Flint, recalled, when he visited Flint in 1936 he received a telephone call within a few minutes of checking into his hotel from an anonymous caller telling him to get back where he came from if he didn't "want to be carried out in a wooden box."

GM also maintained an extensive network of spies throughout its plants. Mortimer concluded after talking to Flint autoworkers that the existing locals, which had only 122 members out of 45,000 autoworkers in Flint, were riddled with spies. Accordingly, he decided that the only safe way to organize Flint was simply to bypass those locals. Mortimer, Eric Branoff, Roy Reuther, Henry Kraus and Ralph Dale began meeting with Flint autoworkers in their homes, keeping the names of new members a closely guarded secret from others in Flint and in UAW headquarters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_Sit-Down_Strike

.0004 = four tenths

[Pierre.Suave]

5. What happened in Flint

is happening right now in Benton Harbor with Whirlpool.

.0004 is 4 ten thousandths

[Ptah]

7. Context. Please show photos of the current action it Benton Harbor.

http://www.uaw.org/solidarity/03/0103/feature07.html

[Pierre.Suave]

9. I dont know if any cars have been burned

but Whirlpool is trying their damndest to rid the area of people they don't like, meaning minorities, through police intimidation, a completely corrupt court system, and even voter intimidation. They are currently trying the main community organizer for all sorts of bogus charges, here is his blog, Rev. Pinkney http://bhbanco.blogspot.com/

I am sure you can get more info there, I dont know all the story, but it is really bad.

edit: I have met Mr Pinkney, he is a great guy, and he has a Harvard Lawyer representing him basically Pro Bono (met him too)

[Ptah]

11. Please lead me to a news story about the strikers.

I am always cheered to read about workers acting.

To quote you "I dont know all the story"

Tell me what you do know.

P.S. '

[Pierre.Suave]

12. Thats about all I know

above, If you want I can get you more info but it may not come right away?

meanwhile, I sit here surfing DU with the most beautiful, sweet, intelligent, adorable, and lovable blonde on the planet asleep on my arm and sick. She sure looks content though.

[Ptah]

14. OK

jasonc Fri Feb-16-07 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. What happened in Flint
is happening right now in Benton Harbor with Whirlpool.

Ptah Fri Feb-16-07 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Please lead me to a news story about the strikers.

jasonc Fri Feb-16-07 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Thats about all I know
above, If you want I can get you more info but it may not come right away?

[Pierre.Suave]

15. What are you trying to say?

I told you what I know, bad things are going on in benton harbor, I dispatched an E-mail to my people that are actively fighting the corrupt machine for the dirt.

perhaps you should google whirlpool and benton harbor.

I even gave you a link the the main organizers blog.

now I will not let you ruin my magical night, even if she is asleep and sick, I love being here right now more than anything.

[Ptah]

16. I was waiting for some news that the workers were disrupting whirlpool,

:shrug:

You e-mailed to your people that are actively fighting the corrupt machine for the dirt,
but there is nothing in the news that would indicate that you exhortation resulted in a work action.

[Pierre.Suave]

18. From my link

SUMMARY:
Benton Harbor is the poorest city in Michigan. Ninety (90%) percent of the people live below the poverty level and seventy (70%) percent are unemployed. Almost all of the citizens are black. The land is very valuable real estate. Whirlpool, already dominant in the area, wanted much of this land for a small price. It needed approval of six (6) of its commissioners. BANCO (the Black Autonomy Network Community Organization), led by Rev. Pinkney , succeeded in a recall election of a key commissioner. A suit was brought to set aside the election alleging fraud. Without sufficient evidence Judge Paul Maloney (who has been nominated by President Bush to the federal bench in the Western District) set aside the recall election and scheduled a new one. With serious money from local political forces the recall was defeated and the commissioner retained. Thus, the sale went through. Whirlpool detached the property from the City of Benton Harbor and attached it to mostly white Benton Township. It plans to build a $100,000,000 gated community, marina and Jack Nicklaus – designed golf course. Seeing Pinkney as a danger, corrupt politicians cooperated with the Prosecutor to produce bribed and coerced witnesses to say that Pinkney had improperly handled absentee ballots and had bought votes (people were paid $10 to say Pinkney paid them $5). Pinkney went to trial in the spring of 2006. There were two minorities on that jury. The trial ended in a hung jury. He is to be tried again.

[Ptah]

20. You posted:What happened in Flint is happening right now in Benton Harbor with Whirlpool.

You posted:

jasonc Fri Feb-16-07 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. What happened in Flint
is happening right now in Benton Harbor with Whirlpool.

I asked you to provide an example, and you give me this:

"SUMMARY:
Benton Harbor is the poorest city in Michigan. Ninety (90%)
percent of the people live below the poverty level and seventy
(70%) percent are unemployed. Almost all of the citizens are black.
The land is very valuable real estate. Whirlpool, already dominant
in the area, wanted much of this land for a small price. It needed
approval of six (6) of its commissioners. BANCO (the Black
Autonomy Network Community Organization), led by Rev. Pinkney ,
succeeded in a recall election of a key commissioner. A suit was
brought to set aside the election alleging fraud. Without sufficient
evidence Judge Paul Maloney (who has been nominated by President
Bush to the federal bench in the Western District) set aside the recall
election and scheduled a new one. With serious money from local
political forces the recall was defeated and the commissioner retained.
Thus, the sale went through. Whirlpool detached the property from
the City of Benton Harbor and attached it to mostly white Benton
Township. It plans to build a $100,000,000 gated community,
marina and Jack Nicklaus – designed golf course. Seeing Pinkney
as a danger, corrupt politicians cooperated with the Prosecutor to
produce bribed and coerced witnesses to say that Pinkney had
improperly handled absentee ballots and had bought votes
(people were paid $10 to say Pinkney paid them $5). Pinkney went
to trial in the spring of 2006. There were two minorities on that jury.
The trial ended in a hung jury. He is to be tried again."

Are you high?

The strike in Flint vs. this?

[Pierre.Suave]

21. WTF

is your fucking problem?

Am I supposed to know every fucking thing going on everywhere? At least I know that .0004 is 4 ten thousandths, I passed 6th grade math.

I told you what I know.

Find it yourself.

edit: as an interesting bit of info. back when the new ignore feature was out, I noticed you had me on ignore for a bit, I never interacted with you before that, but perhaps it is time for you to begin ignoring me again.

Can I ask why?

[Ptah]

22. You hammered a friend's jazz show.

:hi:

[Pierre.Suave]

23. LOL

thats funny.

[Ptah]

24. I'm a funny guy

[Pierre.Suave]

25. So from that point forward

you decided to be an ass in my threads?

[Ptah]

26. Kinda, but you made it easy when you started talking about engineering.

:hi:

[Pierre.Suave]

28. I hope

that you dont work on anything important, or that could hurt anyone.

[Ptah]

30. See, that's where you misunderstand.

In the shop where I work, we say "four tenths" ans it is understood
that we mean ".0004 inches".

Your assertion that I am a fool is funny.

I fabricate components for large scientific instruments.

Your assertions suggest you have no clear conception of what is required
to fabricate precisely.

[Pierre.Suave]

32. So

by your logic, if .0004 is 4 tenths, that would mean .004 would be 4, .04 would be 40 and .4 would be 400?

[Ptah]

34. One more time, grasshopper

I didn't say that .0004 = .4

I said that in a precision machine shop environment,

we say "four tenths" and understand that it means .0004

It's a shorthand.

We're linguistically lazy.

It's just easier to say "four tenths" than to say:

"four ten-thousandths of an inch, calibrated to ten millionths of an inch, certified to the international standard . . . . ."

:hi:

[Pierre.Suave]

35. and again, one more time

you seem to have missed this point in the original thread.

You did not say it, and I never said you did, I never replied to you until you chose to be an ass to me.

[InternalDialogue]

6. *snicker*

I browsed that thread.

:toast:

[Pithlet]

8. I'm from Flint.

Since I left Michigan I don't often come across other people from Flint for some reason.

[Pierre.Suave]

10. No one wants to admit it

I think.

[Pithlet]

13. Heh. Yeah, that's probably it.

Of course, outside of Michigan it's not so hard to admit it. People outside of Michigan always think of Roger and Me, but it isn't the same. I can remember running track in high school and our team getting ribbed by the rich suburb kids at their meets. "We have to hide the hub caps, now. Har har."

ETA I hope your girlfriend feels better.

[nonconformist]

37. I used to live in Davison... pretty close... and Michael Moore's actual hometown

I'm from Oakland County though... Pontiac and Waterford to be exact.

[KitchenWitch]

17. I am sure your GF appreciates having you there!

:thumbsup:

[Pierre.Suave]

19. I know she does

and I am so glad I am here, even if she is sick, infact especially because she is sick.

[auntAgonist]

27. Glad you made the trip JasonC ..

So sorry she's ill. :( Hopefully she'll be feeling better in no time and you can have a wonderful weekend together. I'm sure she was pleased/surprised to see you!

:hug: for both of you.

aA
just west of A2 :)

[Pierre.Suave]

29. I am helping her feel better

by being here, and doting on her.

What is west of A2. Although I spent 5 years there for school, I rarely got out of A2 and barely off campus.

[auntAgonist]

31. We are

just outside of Jackson, near Spring Arbor, directly west on I94.

:)

aA

[Pierre.Suave]

33. Ah

I drove right past you on my way to A2 then. on my way home I will be sure to wave.

[UrbScotty]

36. Welcome to Michigan: Please stay!

;-)

[Pierre.Suave]

39. I cant

I got to go back to work in MN.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

38. I hope she feels better soon!

She's lucky to have you there to care for her. :yourock::toast: