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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:28 PM
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The REAL reason I hate Free Republic
Yes, the politics are despicable.
Yes, the intolerance and closemindeness are aggravating.
Yes, the Hard Right is perilously close to fascism.
Yes, it makes my blood boil to read more than one post over there.
But what really burns my butt about FR is that it's so POORLY PUT TOGETHER. It's a fucking maze with no outlests!

Seriously, any lurking freepers, do us and yourselves a favor and clean up the graphics! Hire a real webdesigner to straighten up the forums, and organize it in such a way that the average human can negotitate the gol-darn site.

Reading Free Republic as it currently stands is like playing dodgeball with an ocelot: time consuming, futile, and confusing for all parties.

Please tell RimJob (My, what a dignified, powerful name!) to get a professional in there and make the damn thing readable. I can't tell who posts what and who is responding to which posts. Clean it up, make it presentable. And then you can COHERENTLY bitch and moan about LIEberals, and COHERENTLY call for our mass murder like good little Americans.

Thank you.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:30 PM
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1. Amen, I was on there the other day and couldn't figure it out
It's sooooo poorly laid out. "Jimrob" must be the dumbest man alive!
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:31 PM
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2. are you kidding? that cost money.
FR, like any other repook endeavor, exists solely to enrich rimjob.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:39 PM
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:43 PM
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4. Thank You
>This is related to your intelligence. Even the freepers you despise have figured it out, so what does this say about you?

My thoughts exactly.

With people like this on board, I can see where my formerly great Democratic party is headed; right into the dustbin of history.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:52 PM
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12. where would we be without your clarion call of doom?
on behalf of all doom-mongers every where, we thank you for your efforts.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #4
17. You ARE kidding, right?
I'll admit to not being the most web-savvy guy in the world, but shit...Having only gone on to FRee Republic five or six times in my life, everytime I go there the first thing that strikes me is how poorly assembled the whole package is. Maybe that's because I'm not so "acquainted" with message forums (having only been "online" for about a year or two) to have a frame of reference to how most of them look. All I can say is that DU has always seemed easy to read, easy to negotiate, and easy on the eyes (good colors, etc.) where as FR is confusing, dull, and ugly.

Sorry for being "stupid." And as we all know, attacking members of one's own party is a sure way of ensuring loyalty....I apologize for "bringing" the intelligence level down around here, Peabody.


Sheees, what a firing squad! I'd hate to have actually done something wrong!
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #17
54. Nah. No firing squad...
just a big spoon in the outhouse.

I'm kinda bemused, like a few other people here, that you make a comment blasting Rimjob and two assholes are fighting with you over it.

Just gotta put up with the shitstirrers. Or ignore them. Or tell 'em to FOAD.

But NEVER take it seriously.



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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #17
63. I so totally agree.
I managed to figure it out once when I had a lot of time to spend, but it took forever to re-wire my brain to understand it and get used to it. And I'm a college graduate with two degrees, so I ain't no dummy, either. Or maybe it's because we're so used to DU that it's hard to go to a site where you can't figure out anything without spending fifteen straight hourse on the computer. Come to think of it, maybe that's Rimjob's goal, lol!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 06:19 PM
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59. How do you know the freepers have figured it out
??????????????????????????????????????????????
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 06:34 PM
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61. The secret to it is
the "My Comments" section you get when you sign up. To keep track of threads, you post a 'read later' post on threads you are interested in and it shows up in your My Comments, where you will always be able to get the thread you are following and see all the posts responding to yours.

And yes I am signed on the FR. They have a group of bear investor posters there who are very knowledgeable. I also like how the FR bears handle the bushbots who come into their thread spouting bull propaganda. Their "daily forecast" thread is a must read for bears. That thread along with our "stock market watch" thread are daily reads for me.

For all that other ugly crap that goes on there, I just skip over it.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. Defending "rimjob"
Dear god man! What's gotten into you?
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frogfromthenorth2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Hum... I must agree with you on this....
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. Er...what?
Jim Robinson calls himself "RimJob." I didn't make that up.

How in any way as MY post confusing?

Defending Free Republic? Very strange. Attacking my "intelligence?" Out of order, "champ."

If you find my posts so damn terrible, put me on ignore, "Ace." All right, "Pal?"

Jeez, what's up your ass today? Hangover? It's not like I shit in your handbag or anything....
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. No Message
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 01:55 PM by YNGW
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:53 PM
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13.  I would say proof of RKZ's intelligence lies.....
In his ability to make an initial point without insulting someone.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:57 PM
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. "felt he was not in a position to comprehend it,"
There you go again, insulting his brian power...can you comprehend anything... like irony? Can you comprehend that?
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:23 PM
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26. Thank you HeyHey....
I can't believe I'm having to fight off the slings and arrows. Thanks for the assistance.

Listen, Yngwie Malmsteen, I'm not used to the "look" of message forums, probably because I've been READING BOOKS for most of my life, not using computers. I have found FR's forum design wanting and hard to read. Big fuckin' deal. I'm not stupid, I'm just not the most computer literate dude around. Neither was Saul Bellow. So what? Have I single-handedly lost the election for the Dems? Oh, well, excuse me then. I apologize to each and every one of you. Surely there's somebody actually committing some sort of greivous offense somewhere you can attack, right? Jesus Christ, this has been sincerely the stupidest 45 minutes of my life.......

How sad it is to see people I once repected reveal themselves as tight-assed thought police.....
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. we'll lose the election with posts like yours!
I've never been so completely offended.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #26
31. No prob happy to do it
And if they're so concerned with the level of debate ability on DU. You'd think they'd start with a post that has a bit more significance or political relation. But they chose this one because it wasn't truly about what they claimed it to be, it has nothing to do with the Dem party or any true debating opportunities. It was just about insulting someone on a simple post that they knew they wouldn't get into a factual intellectual argument on, so I hope they all feel smarter.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #7
14. you should know better than to criticize Free Republic
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 01:56 PM by thebigidea
they are fine Americans. God Bless America, and may God Continue to Bless Unfunny libertarians! The height of wit is, after all, saying that someone's breath stinks.

You should slam their breath and then CA will heartily defend your right to make such devastating critique. But mocking their web design? That's out of bounds!
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #7
16. Your post wasn't in the least confusing.
Defending Free Republic? Very strange. Attacking my "intelligence?" Out of order, "champ."

Nor was I 'defending' FR, in case that escaped your notice. I was criticizing your post, which embodies a certain attitude that I find here, with increased frequency, lately, that cheapens and coarsens the otherwise respectable level of discourse at this website.

It's quite bad PR, IOW.

If you find my posts so damn terrible, put me on ignore, "Ace." All right, "Pal?"


I have not and will never use that juevenile function, Sport.

Jeez, what's up your ass today? Hangover? It's not like I shit in your handbag or anything....


No, no hangover; I don't partake. Just starting the new year off right, hoping to improve what I see as a rather base tendency (overall, not specifically in regards to you) at this site.
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. Thanks CA
Many on here haven't the slightest idea how to debate or use logic. I fear for the future of our party.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. you have certainly elevated the discourse immeasurably
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 02:01 PM by thebigidea
I'm gald that you've decided to shoulder the burden of this massive project.

I suggest dotting your Is with little hearts, it would really go a long way.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:09 PM
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23. Umm... if you're going to critique the "coarsening" of debate
IN THE FREAKIN' LOUNGE, then you need some more fiber in your diet.

*I* am bringing down the level of discourse? I guess all those Yak threads are the height of dialectic thought (no offense to the Yakkers.).

I repeat: IN THE FREAKIN' LOUNGE?

This is the place for more lighthearted discussions of things. They're not always political.

If you want to improve something, why dontcha "improve" your seeming desire to police others' posts and thoughts. It smacks of conservatism, and is not very useful.

Jeez, next time I'll ask for fuckin' permission to post from you about a limited menu of topics, okay? Would that make you happy?

Shit, work on "improving" yourself first, Nurse Ratched.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #23
29. It's not the kitchen, but you can't take the heat.
If you want to improve something, why dontcha "improve" your seeming desire to police others' posts and thoughts. It smacks of conservatism, and is not very useful.

My, my, what projection. Since you seem unable to comprehend this so far, I will assist you: I am not 'policing' either your posts or your thoughts. You posted an opinion; I critiqued it. As you said, it's the lounge. If you are unable to take the mild criticism that I offered here, the outlook for this new years looks dubious.

And no, it doesn't 'smack of conservatism' in the least.

Jeez, next time I'll ask for fuckin' permission to post from you about a limited menu of topics, okay? Would that make you happy?


No. And again, you either mischaracterize or misunderstand my comments, and attribute far more to them than they merit. I have absolutely no desire to either effect or influence your manner or frequency of posting.

Shit, work on "improving" yourself first, Nurse Ratched.


Every day, Sunshine, every single day.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. Such droll charm! I bet you're terrific fun at parties!
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #30
36. No shit. The self-appointed guardian of our democratic ideals has
decided that "critiquing" the viewpoints of those on his team is a worthwhile hobby. Aren't WE full of ourselves? Oh, may I now kiss your feet?

Grow a fuckin' "sense of humor gland," CA. I used to enjoy your posts, but I feel I'm not a worthy target. Go after some big fish with all that righteous indignation at your disposal. I'm just a mosquito.

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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #36
41. Your desire to see what isn't there is troubling
No shit. The self-appointed guardian of our democratic ideals

I make no such claim. Rather, this represents what you think.

...has decided that "critiquing" the viewpoints of those on his team is a worthwhile hobby.


This happens every day here, in almost every thread.

Aren't WE full of ourselves? Oh, may I now kiss your feet?


I'd rather you stand on your own.

Grow a fuckin' "sense of humor gland," CA.


So there's this rabbi and a priest, and they go into a bar....

I assure you I have a sense of humor, quite finely honed and still of the widest possible latitude; you need not to grow a thicker skin.

I used to enjoy your posts, but I feel I'm not a worthy target.


You are not the target, per se; I'm sorry that wasn't clearer.

Go after some big fish with all that righteous indignation at your disposal. I'm just a mosquito.


You are, in your own way, quite the catch.

(Hint: fish joke)

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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #41
44. Look, I appreciate the lighter tone...
But I still feel as if your attacks on me were out of line. Usually if I did what you are doing to me to a friend or even a stranger, I'd have to go crawling back on my hands and knees to apologize.

Shit, and to think I once thought we were all on the same team! How naive I was....
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #44
47. Again, you are far too sensitive.
There were obvious errors in your post. I pointed them out, certainly with a certain irony in the tone I used, and you are reacting like I've pissed in your drink while toasting the Democratic candidate for president.

A. His nickname is JimRob, not Rimjob.
B. You critiqued the layout of the site, and yet members there find it easy to navigate, as every post refers to the one to which it responds.
C. You exhort them to clean up the site, but you didn't clean up your post.

If you can't take someone needling you for pointing out the irony in that you made errors when trying to point out the errors of others, then I apologize for not having understood this and having commented in the first place.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #47
48. People make typos...okay, maybe YOU don't, but others do.
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 03:17 PM by RandomKoolzip
But it's one thing to make a typo and not correct it. It's another to construct a maze-like website whose layout is forbidding to most visitors to the site and leave it like that for years. And it's still entirely another thing to intimate that one is deficient in intelligence if one finds FR's presentation odd.


"Members find it easy to navigate." Hmmm, it takes one to know one, dunnit? Admitting that you've posted to FR a bunch of times in the past...well, A. it's kinda spooky a dem would want to spend that much time there, and B. that would make you more of an expert in finding your way around than me, who is on the record as visiting the site "five or six times."

Maybe you saw it as "irony," I saw it as condescension.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. You know, ironically enough, irony can be really ironic.
Hmmm, it takes one to know one, dunnit?

I have never been anything other than completely open that I have been a member of both sites for years.

Admitting that you've posted to FR a bunch of times in the past...well, A. it's kinda spooky a dem would want to spend that much time there, and B. that would make you more of an expert in finding your way around than me, who is on the record as visiting the site "five or six times."


A. I still post there.
B. I still post here.
C. I'm not a democrat, I'm a libertarian.
D. All jokes about intelligence aside, it is not difficult to navigate. Ugly, perhaps? Sure. But confusing? YMMV.

Maybe you saw it as "irony," I saw it as condescension.


I apologize for not having taken better care such that that impression would not have been made on you.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #49
50. I'm not the first to complain about FR's unmanagability.
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 03:58 PM by RandomKoolzip
I've heard in the past about how DUers WANTED to post there, but could not make hide nor hair of the format. Are THEY all lacking in brains, or is it just me? What about all the people on this thread who agree with me?

Y'know, Great, you are far more intelligent than I am. You can understand FR's format and I can't. Whoopty shit. Feel better now?

You know, most of the Libertarians/Randians I know display this same unattractive tendency: They jus' LOVE gettin' up on that high horse and showing the world just how freakin' superior they are.

The drummer in my band is a libertarian, and he acts the same way you did in this thread to me all the time, and can't understand why he has no friends. Hm....could it be you are alienating everyone with your didactic and haughty tone? We all know now you can brook no fools, fantastic. Bully for you.

You don't rise when people fall.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #50
55. This is a bit of a contradiction though
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 05:34 PM by DS1
The trolls over at FR can understand a eye-watering mind-numbligly complex interface. Hmm.

There are generally 2 different formats of messageboards, ours and theirs. You have to be able to follow more than one conversation while scrolling to get theirs, that shouldn't be too difficult. Besides, their "New Posts to Me" is ~still~ superior, even after our most recent addition. No doubt they are using that, and where ever their posts to each other show up on the thread itself is irrelevant.

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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. If I were to spend weeks and weeks, posting and getting acclimated
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 06:00 PM by RandomKoolzip
to the way the board was set up, then sure, okay, it'd be second nature... Freeper trolls "get it" because they've been there often enough to get the "feel" of it. More computer literate people than I can "get it," because it's in a language they are used to speaking.

I never said freepers were stupid. Evil, misguided, and selfish, sure, but not stupid (except for AZ Joe, I'm sure!) And if you read some of the posts over thre, there's typos and misspellings and muddled incoherence all over the place; sure, they can use the site without getting confused, but that doesn't make those cretins superior, either.

It's just not very user-friendly to newbies, I'd say. Like I said, I've been there maybe six times, and each time I notice the obfuscation before I notice the offensiveness.


If I were to compare the foramts of DU and FR, based simply on a basis of which was easier to look at and navigate, regardless of politics, I would choose DU. If DU were set up EXACTLY as FR is set up now, because of the importance of liberal politics in my life, I would try to quickly get a handle on the format so that I could understand and contribute to the give and take. I'd bet FR is daunting to a lot of newbies, inlike DU, which has always seemed like an inviting, hands-on kinda place. I just think it's an oddly designed site, and that's the end of it....

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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. Which of the two in your name is acting up, CA?
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 02:32 PM by jpgray
It's quite clear your posts have nothing to do with either FR's design (which is lousy) or RKZ (who is an intelligent guy), so maybe you should start your own thread: "I'm having a bad day, and I feel like shitting on someone". At least then no one would be confused as to the purposes of your posts. The other interpretations could be "I'm an ass", "I love Free Republic so much as to be blind to obvious design faults", or "I have a blood vendetta with RKZ, wherein I shall insult him at every opportunity".

Pick one, start a new thread. Your posts have little to do with this one.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. shhhh, he's improving the discourse. Its an enchanting breath of fresh air
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #32
37. It's quite clear you have utterly missed the point
It's quite clear your posts have nothing to do with either FR's design (which is lousy)

It fullfills a function well enough. Not beautiful, to be sure; crude yet effective.

or RKZ (who is an intelligent guy)


Not enough to figure out how to navigate FR, by his own admission.

so maybe you should start your own thread: "I'm having a bad day, and I feel like shitting on someone". At least then no one would be confused as to the purposes of your posts.


I'm not having a bad day, and I'm sorry you're confused.

The other interpretations could be "I'm an ass", "I love Free Republic so much as to be blind to obvious design faults", or "I have a blood vendetta with RKZ, wherein I shall insult him at every opportunity".


Yes, that might well be how the tragically dim might interpret it.

Pick one, start a new thread. Your posts have little to do with this one.


Whoooosh.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. Keep going, if you like. Hole's little worse for being deeper :-) (nt)
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 02:40 PM by jpgray
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. at this point, the discourse is sooo elevated, I'm fucking levitating
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #39
45. TBI, you are the funniest muthascratcha I've ever read.
By the way, how's the Alan Colmes nomination coming?

Seriously, though...what the hell is going on here? Have CA and Yngwie arbitrarily decided to use this thread to hone their debating skills? That's what it feels like. I wish that you guys could have told me beforehand you were gonna do this. I do not enjoy feeling like shark chum.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #39
52. LMAO! Best. Response.Yet.
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ProudGerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #29
62. I'm confused
At 2:28 PM you wrote this.

I have absolutely no desire to either effect or influence your manner or frequency of posting.

But a mere half hour earlier you wrote this.

Just starting the new year off right, hoping to improve what I see as a rather base tendency (overall, not specifically in regards to you) at this site.

Which is it man? You're bemoaning the quality of posting here, and saying that you are the one who's going to set it right, but you can't even keep yourself straight on what you are trying to do. You are either trying to improve the postings at this site, which would give you an excuse to have a beef with someone, or you have no desire to "effect or influence" members postings, which denies you any right to have a beef with anyone. But it can't be both. Pick one before you go nitpicking anything else in the lounge.

Thank you.


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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. Sure, glad to help
I have absolutely no desire to either effect or influence your manner or frequency of posting.

But a mere half hour earlier you wrote this.


Just starting the new year off right, hoping to improve what I see as a rather base tendency (overall, not specifically in regards to you) at this site.


Which is it man? You're bemoaning the quality of posting here, and saying that you are the one who's going to set it right, but you can't even keep yourself straight on what you are trying to do. You are either trying to improve the postings at this site, which would give you an excuse to have a beef with someone, or you have no desire to "effect or influence" members postings, which denies you any right to have a beef with anyone. But it can't be both. Pick one before you go nitpicking anything else in the lounge.


Since my intent clearly was lost on you, allow me to assist:

There are tendencies at this site that I would prefer reverse themselves. They lessen the overall quality of the site, IMO.

However, I have no desire to force any one, particular poster into any sort of changes that he/she is either unwilling or unable to accomodate. My comment in that regards was directed at one specific poster who mistakenly believed that I was somehow, magically, 'policing' his posts.

Sorry that wasn't clearer the first time.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #64
66. I don't believe in magic.
I don't believe in behaving like a hall monitor in a hall full of smart, reasonable people, either.

Now that I reread your posts, I've come to the conclusion that the beef you have with me is that I made a few typos while criticizing programming idiosynchrasies at FR. In my eyes, on the offense scale, that'd register maybe a "So What" if I saw someone else do it, because I fail to see the connection between a typing error in an ephemeral post and willful oddity in web design since they seem to me to be two completely different things. And I believe it's petty to do so.

It's true that your first reply to me contained a warning to me to "think about what I'm doing before pressing that "Post Message" button," and talk of correcting others' habits. Is it any wonder I thought you WERE indeed trying act like a Thread Cop? I'm still trying to get back to civility with you, CA, since I think you're a smart guy....I just think you coulda been a nicer guy, that's all.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #23
57. as the creator of the yak phenom
No offense taken.

Yaks are to me what poodles are to FZ. :-)
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 04:16 PM
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51. "A rather base tendency," you say?

Kind of like your own reply to one of my posts not too long ago:

> That songs blows.

> In fact, his entire career is one big 'wishing well' now, as it
> rightly should be.

Happy New Year!

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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 07:06 PM
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65. Oh, well, then,
thank GOD we have you to defend us, protect our morals, and save us from those horrible posters in the LOUNGE who dare to express some levity in the LOUNGE, we're SOOOOOOO grateful! Just add some little hearts to your post, and you'll be all set.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:50 PM
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10. I can't believe I'm having to defend myself for this.
Seriously?
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. I keep thinking
I'm gonna get the *joke* in a minute...:eyes:

We both must be mental midgets, RKZ, 'cos I agree 100%.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:22 PM
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25. Just a few posters trying to "get" you
They had a bad day or whatever so they feel like shitting on someone, and hey! you're it. Just sit back and enjoy how unintentionally funny some of their posts are, because on the whole they have very little to do with you--they are more concerned with the egos and insecurities of their authors. :)
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:41 PM
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40. What the hell!?
I saw this thread when it was first posted and decided not to reply because I thought it would just be a long list of "Me too." FR IS poorly designed. FR IS hard to navigate.

WTF I can't believe we are arguing about this.
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:07 PM
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22. Just one little comment
"Even the freepers you despise have figured it out, so what does this say about you?"

Several of my brother's friends are regular Freepers (they're all libertarians, so I can semi-tolerate them), and even they admit that it is perhaps the worst-designed forum they've ever used.

The worst part of it is the complete lack of threading on the post views. It makes it even harder to follow the insane babblings of these people.
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:34 PM
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34. Jesus Christ!
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 02:38 PM by breezygirl
If the only way you have to debunk his argument is to point out simple spelling errors then perhaps you need to question your own intelligence.

Edit: I agree with RKZ on most points. FR, compared to DU, is much less user friendly and he's chosen the proper medium to tell us what he thinks. Nothing in his post should've provoked you to call him an idiot.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:48 PM
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8. Let's face it:
The only reason most Freepers walk on their hind legs is to spite evolution.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 01:49 PM
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9. I agree whole heartedly!
As DU had gotten more sophisticated, Freep remains unreadable. Politics aside, it's not a very conductive way to run debates or transmit new ideas.

But I suspect that's the whole point. A smooth, cohesive website would quickly show how bankrupt their ideas are.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:18 PM
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24. There's nothing wrong with this post, overlooking a few of the replies
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 02:20 PM by jpgray
Some people enjoy stirring up trouble, I suppose, even in the Lounge. These "arguments" initiated for "the good of DU" that focus on personal attacks and distortions of others' statements are tiresome enough in the GD forums. If you just love to bring people down for no legitmate reason, at least stay out of the Lounge.

I agree with RKZ's post about FR's design--it's a hassle to even see who replied to whom, something rather important for a message board. However much you may like FR, the design is weak, especially when compared to DU's. This would be the judgment of any bi-partisan group of webdesigners. :crazy:
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Andyjunction Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:27 PM
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28. Agree completely
Free Republic is, without a doubt, the most poorly desingend message board I have ever encountered. And I do believe that Jim Robinson gave himself the nickname of RimJob. So, what's the problem?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:35 PM
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35. I just gotta say
This is one of the funniest arguments I've ever seen on DU. Just so all parties know I won't hold any of this against you in the future. :-) lol
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #35
42. I wish I could be that magnanimous.
But it seems I'm going to have to be forever on the defensive against at least two people in the future for some utterly random-ass reason. Damn, nobody told me it was my turn to wear the "Scarlet A!"
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. You could change your handle to Hester Prynne
:P
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #43
46. No kidding....
"Now I know how Joan of Arc felt....Bigmouth strikes again...." Jeez, I don't even like The Smiths, and I'm feeling that song right now.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 04:39 PM
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53. I AGREE!!!!
Man, I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. I too expected to click in here and see a bunch of "me toos."

I have been visiting message boards for about 8 years now, and have belonged to dozens on various subjects for various legnths of time. I have NEVER seen one so horribly designed as Free Republic. No contest. If stating that fact makes you a target for the kind of BS I see here today, well then toss a few arrows this way, because I agree with him!

:evilgrin:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 06:16 PM
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58. Format aside
I find it incredibly sad that such hate and ignorance exists. Freepers make me sick.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #58
60. Yeah, I think that goes without saying....
But thank you for saying it anyways. The format is but one of a litany of evils FR has brought upon the earth.

Who'd ever think there'd be DUers DEFENDING FR? Where's bizarro Jerry?Sometimes we really ARE our own worst enemy.......
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #60
67. If it is any consolation....
I agree with you RKz.

This was an incredibly interesting thread to run through. I'm wearing my Mylar drawers so people can flame me, but damn, I can see no rhyme or reason to what is being tossed your way.

Fact: FR IS a burden to get through. It IS ugly. It IS cheaply made. Those that live over there are GENERALLY an ignorant bunch of hate mongers and bigots.

I am usually of the mind that DU is a relatively interesting site, with intelligent people that make at least 'good' arguments; but to attack you in this situation, is pretty well an act of futility.

Did you pee on someones shoes or something?

I'm in your corner.....hang in there partner!

:bounce:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #67
69. Thank you.
And thank you everybody who chimed in with a word of support; you guys are awesome and you rock hard.


I was really angry at the way I was treated, but...what the hell, there's bigger things to be worried about, right? Joke 'em if they can't take a fuck....
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #58
68. I agree...
it's like taking a shot of Ipecac when I go over there.

But, I will go there if someone posts a link to something that looks 'interesting' or relavant, (not very often, I assure you).

There are few places that have such blatantly ignorant, biggotted and downright spiteful people on it. There are worse, but I NEVER go to neo-nazi type sites.

O8)
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