So let's say 5 people in your house are sick. Two of them are children.

[Left Is Write]

The illness includes cough and severe congestion.

Fake Sudafed does no good.

You go to the store and select Benadryl Children's Cold & Allergy Fast Melts and Tylenol Cold & Severe Congestion formulas.

Um, no.

Can't do that.

Pick one or the other. Only one to a customer, ma'am. Federal law.

Should we medicate the adults? The children? What to do, what to do.

I'd like to round up every meth cooker in this country and crack their fucking heads together.

[treestar]

1. Silliest damn law there ever was

Just shows how making a law leads to others.

There needs to be a consideration for how many people live in the household, whoever invented this ridiculousness never thought of that. Next, they'll be amending the regulations to account for it but you'll of course have to prove it to the pharmacy, maybe by showing the birth certificates or your latest tax return?

Why don't they just concentrate on finding the drug manufacturers? Maybe buying a lot would be enough of a tip from the druggist for a warrant, then when the cops come to search they can see you have that number of sick people and take a pass on it.

[SPKrazy]

2. Go To Two Stores

take your chances with the DEA

if they come over cough and sneeze on them

Stupidest damned law

most meth is coming from Mexico now anyway

[Left Is Write]

7. I did wind up having to go to more than one store.

First my daughter (age 19) and I went to Walgreen's. She bought the Walgreen's generic version of Sudafed (the real kind with pseudoephedrine) and I asked for the Tylenol Severe Congestion.

"We don't have that. It's not on the market."

"Yes it is. They have it at Albertsons."

"No, that has pseudoephedrine and guafenesin. It's not on the market. Guaifenesin is a cough medication."

"I know. It's still on the market."

"We don't have it."

Fine. I got Aleve Cold & Sinus, which as naproxen sodium for pain and pseudoephedrine for congestion. I figured that can be my husband's medication.

I dropped my daughter off at the airport with her medication. I hope they let her take it on the plane.

After that, I went to another Albertsons, where I bought the Tylenol Severe Congestion the Walgreen's lady told me is not on the market. It's acetaminophen, pseudoephedrine, and guaifenesin. This is what I want. This will be my medication.

The kids have enough medicine to last another day or so, and hopefully by that point they won't need it anymore. They got the cold first, so they are at the tail end of its cycle.

But at least my neighborhood is safe from my starting up a meth lab!

You know - I don't mind controls on the sale. I don't mind providing the ID and signature required to purchase the stuff. What I did not know was that there was such a strict, severe limit on quantities. Hello! Is it so unreasonable to think that both children and adults might need congestion relief at the same time?

[SPKrazy]

8. I Agree Totally

I used to take Claritin D until my ENT decided it was causing me more problems than doing me good.

But I felt like a criminal buying it every 2 weeks because I couldn't get more than 14 or so at a time where I bought it.

Large quantities should be controlled but they shouldn't tell you that you can't have more than a certain amount.

[Lyric]

3. I had the exact same problem recently

We all have colds at the moment--really nasty ones that require both daytime *and* nightime versions of medication. The new "phenylephrine" stuff doesn't work worth a damn, so I tried to buy the following:

Nyquil (for adults)
Dayquil (for adults)
Triaminic non-drowsy (for the kidlet)
Triaminic nighttime formula (for the kidlet)

They went nuts. I swear the stupid cashier acted like she was going to call the cops any second. WTF? Why is it so hard to comprehend that in a household with grownups *and* kids, both of which need sleepy meds at night and stay-awake meds in the daytime, that we might need more than 1 or 2 bottles??

We wound up having to split up the buying--I bought the two adult medicines at two different pharmacies, and my partner bought the two childrens medicines at two different pharmacies. *headdesk*

[Rosemary2205]

4. How we got around this

My husband get really nasty colds all year long. Fortunately we've been seeing our family doc for decades. Now that she really knows him she decided to give him a prescription for decongestant/expectorant with refills and he can use it or not use as needed. Works better than the OTC stuff for him, generic is about the same cost retail as sudafed, and it never raises eyebrows at the pharmacy.

[Gormy Cuss]

5. Rob the store.

Complain to your Congress critters. The law is flat out stupid.

[mduffy31]

6. Actually that is not true it is not a federal law it is a state law

and usually they limit you to 6 grams a month, which is an awful lot. Just go somewhere else to buy the other meds, I know it is a pain in the ass but you do what you gotta do.

[LostinVA]

9. MY pharmacist told me it WAS a Federal Law

With certain state laws also in effect.

[Lyric]

10. Your pharmacist is correct.

The law is called the "Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005". Some of the federal regulations are as follows:

Effective April 8, 2006:

- Daily sales are limited to 3.6 Grams of the base product; and

- Monthly sales are limited to 9 Grams of the base product.

Effective September 30, 2006:

- Sales restrictions will apply to all dosage forms of the products, including liquids, liquid capsules, or liquid gel capsules;


- Sellers must maintain a logbook, written or electronic, to record sales of products containing ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, or phenylpropanolamine. The seller must enter into the logbook the name of the product, and quantity sold. The customer must write or enter into the logbook their name, address, date, and time of sale. The customer must also sign the logbook. You may not sell the product unless these requirements are met.


- Sellers, must be "self-certified" before selling these products and must comply with all provisions of the CMEA relating to employee training, product placement, photo identification of customers, sales logbooks, and other procedures listed in the law. DEA has provided detailed training instructions for use in explaining a sellers obligations on its website at www.DEAdiversion.usdoj.gov.

- More information about the federal law may be found on the Drug Enforcement Administration’s Web-site at the following link http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/meth/index.html

[Left Is Write]

11. I've looked it up - it is a federal law.

Federal law prohibits the sale of more than 3.6 grams of pseudoephedrine per day and more than 9.0 grams per 30-days per customer per retailer.

I could find nothing about Idaho laws that restrict the sales even further, so I should have been able to buy both medications I wanted. Right?

It takes 1000 milligrams to equal 1 gram. Each of the 24 caplets of the Tylenol formula contains 30 mg of pseudoephedrine. 24 caplets x 30 mg = 720 mg, which isn't even 1 gram. Is that right?

Each of the 20 Children's Benadryl tablets contains 30 mg of pseudoephedrine. 20 tablets x 30 mg = 600 mg.

600 mg + 720 mg = 1320 mg or 1.32 grams.

If the limit is 3.6 grams per day, I should have been able to buy the two packages which totaled 1.32 grams, right? Unless my math is off, which is entirely possible given how I feel like shit.

Nevertheless, the signs at both Walgreens and Albertsons advised that sales would be limited to one package.

[Left Is Write]

15. Bumping this up in the hopes that someone will check my math.

[Dangerously Amused]

12. Hopefully enough Republicans AND their kids get sick simultaneously

...so that they have to go through this BS themselves to see how idiotic the laws are, as written. Once it inconveniences their whiney asses THEN we'll see some amendments to make the laws reasonable.


:eyes:

[hfojvt]

13. How did all these people get in my house?

Out! Out! :spank: This is not a hospital!!

However, why did I not already have some cold medicine in stock? What was I thinking? That nobody would get sick? :wtf:

[Left Is Write]

14. We had cold medicine. We discovered that "fake" Sudafed

does jack shit for the congestion.